schma
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Post by schma on May 13, 2023 7:29:54 GMT -5
The company has already been a heel for years so no turn is necessary. If anything, it's long overdue for a face turn. |
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Post by clc on May 13, 2023 7:53:06 GMT -5
Please Asuka win so then IYO wins MITB and we get Asuka Vs IYO at summerslam. THIS IS THE WAY GIMME WHAT I WANT!!!!!!!! IYO would be great in a MiTB match, but I always felt the briefcase is kind a heel thing. Unless she cashes it in the Cena way.
I'd rather not have a face IYO look weak by having to cash-in on a beaten up opponent.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 8:05:50 GMT -5
Please Asuka win so then IYO wins MITB and we get Asuka Vs IYO at summerslam. THIS IS THE WAY GIMME WHAT I WANT!!!!!!!! IYO would be great in a MiTB match, but I always felt the briefcase is kind a heel thing. Unless she cashes it in the Cena way.
I'd rather not have a face IYO look weak by having to cash-in on a beaten up opponent.
Yea , my line of thinking is she would win and do an RVD by calling their shot beforehand. This way you use the briefcase in a different way for the women and can then purely focus on the story all the way to summerslam. And I assume she will be far more if not pure babyface by the time MITB rolls around that she would do just that and not the heelish take advantage of a weakened opponent. |
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Post by chronocross on May 13, 2023 8:16:39 GMT -5
... didn't she already turn heel? hasn't this entire murder clown thing been a heel turn? The problem is people don't want to boo her... especially if you make her do crazy things because being a crazy badass is what got her over as a face to begin with... I thought that also, but I still don't see her beating Bianca at (more than likely) Night of Champions. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 13, 2023 16:53:02 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 17:18:48 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on. It plays into a larger issue here with the SD women that I brought up. Where exactly is Asuka gonna generate heat for this heel turn? yea attacking Bianca in her hometown is easy..but what about when this feud is over? what Shotzi? , Charlotte?. Good luck getting Asuka booed against either of them or in the case of Shotzi getting the audience to give a single f***. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 13, 2023 19:07:10 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on. and again... EST is a heel gimmick. I'm the greatest, smartest, fastest, and best person in the WWE... that's a heel mentality. |
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Post by Soultastic on May 13, 2023 19:48:03 GMT -5
Wait I'm confused. Wasn't Asuka already a heel before Mania? I mean she was actively trying to cheat with the mist and, unlike Eddie Guerrero, she didn't sell shirts about it.
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Post by theironyuppie on May 13, 2023 22:38:28 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on. It plays into a larger issue here with the SD women that I brought up. Where exactly is Asuka gonna generate heat for this heel turn? yea attacking Bianca in her hometown is easy..but what about when this feud is over? what Shotzi? , Charlotte?. Good luck getting Asuka booed against either of them or in the case of Shotzi getting the audience to give a single f***. If it's like last time, she'll just stop being used on TV after she loses to Bianca. Same thing happened to Alexa after the Rumble (and EC 2022). |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 13, 2023 23:02:32 GMT -5
It plays into a larger issue here with the SD women that I brought up. Where exactly is Asuka gonna generate heat for this heel turn? yea attacking Bianca in her hometown is easy..but what about when this feud is over? what Shotzi? , Charlotte?. Good luck getting Asuka booed against either of them or in the case of Shotzi getting the audience to give a single f***. If it's like last time, she'll just stop being used on TV after she loses to Bianca. Same thing happened to Alexa after the Rumble (and EC 2022). I mean Alexa's problem is she's stuck in Bray Wyatt limbo. Where they were clearly doing something but then Bray's entire schtick basically fell flat on it's face and everything around that basically got put on hold. |
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Post by asuka007 on May 13, 2023 23:18:57 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on. It plays into a larger issue here with the SD women that I brought up. Where exactly is Asuka gonna generate heat for this heel turn? yea attacking Bianca in her hometown is easy..but what about when this feud is over? what Shotzi? , Charlotte?. Good luck getting Asuka booed against either of them or in the case of Shotzi getting the audience to give a single f***. I would have said Liv, but she’s on Raw now. |
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Post by gl83 on May 14, 2023 9:39:04 GMT -5
I think a core issue with this whole stupid thing is that... Bianca just isn't a sympathetic character. Like, she just isn't. She isn't actively unlikable, she isn't face Triple H or something, but her entire personality is, "I win and I win and I win and I tell you how much I win." Nothing phases the character and she doesn't struggle so when someone kicks her ass at best the crowd's ambivalent to it and at worst they actually cheer it on. It plays into a larger issue here with the SD women that I brought up. Where exactly is Asuka gonna generate heat for this heel turn? yea attacking Bianca in her hometown is easy..but what about when this feud is over? what Shotzi? , Charlotte?. Good luck getting Asuka booed against either of them or in the case of Shotzi getting the audience to give a single f***. I guess Zelina Vega. She is part of an over and popular act with the LWO. |
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Post by Hurbster on May 15, 2023 5:01:18 GMT -5
She gets it.
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Post by mistery on May 16, 2023 13:41:35 GMT -5
Speaking of heel turns, Boozer is claiming that Bianca and The Street Profits are slated to turn heel soonish as well. His track record is almost flawless so I'm inclined to believe him.
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Post by gl83 on May 16, 2023 16:46:41 GMT -5
If you want to be pessimistic, we couold be entering a scenario in which every other female in the Women's division(other than a select few) is screwed since we're going to have Bianca steam-rolling everyone on Smackdown; Rhea steam-rolling everyone on Raw; while Ronda/Shayna take care of the left-overs and steamroll whichever tag teams are left.
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Post by mistery on May 16, 2023 18:15:35 GMT -5
If you want to be pessimistic, we couold be entering a scenario in which every other female in the Women's division(other than a select few) is screwed since we're going to have Bianca steam-rolling everyone on Smackdown; Rhea steam-rolling everyone on Raw; while Ronda/Shayna take care of the left-overs and steamroll whichever tag teams are left. I mean that's no different from what it currently is, to be fair. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 21:55:46 GMT -5
Speaking of heel turns, Boozer is claiming that Bianca and The Street Profits are slated to turn heel soonish as well. His track record is almost flawless so I'm inclined to believe him. I do wonder how the hell this works with Asuka turning heel now. I guess it can be that Asuka wins at NOC...then the rematch at MITB which Bianca also loses and from there puts her in a downward spiral then cue Charlotte (although it was rumored she would come back as a heel). But it would almost assure that IYO would be slotted to fill that babyface role Bianca leaves behind. Benefit to this the profits turning heel would be a huge fresh change for them. |
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Post by gl83 on May 16, 2023 22:37:50 GMT -5
Speaking of heel turns, Boozer is claiming that Bianca and The Street Profits are slated to turn heel soonish as well. His track record is almost flawless so I'm inclined to believe him. I do wonder how the hell this works with Asuka turning heel now. I guess it can be that Asuka wins at NOC...then the rematch at MITB which Bianca also loses and from there puts her in a downward spiral then cue Charlotte (although it was rumored she would come back as a heel). But it would almost assure that IYO would be slotted to fill that babyface role Bianca leaves behind. Benefit to this the profits turning heel would be a huge fresh change for them. Boozer's report seems to hint that the turn happens around SummerSlam. Although the exact timing of his reports aren't 100%. Example being he had Damage Ctrl splitting up before the Draft, and while the split is happening, he is a bit off on when it takes place. |
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