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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on May 14, 2023 1:17:01 GMT -5
My initial response is: Oh no.....
I'm expecting a lot of generic beats, choirs, and lazy lyrics if the same people are still doing the music.
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Post by mj0mn0m on May 14, 2023 1:40:01 GMT -5
Do not mess with Liv's theme! 😱
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Post by pinja on May 14, 2023 1:49:58 GMT -5
When he was on he was really on. The big difference with him and CFOs was that CFOs would write a verse and loop it and that would be the song. Jim Johnson would write a really good first verse and then struggle with the second. I checked at one point, and most Johnston and CFO songs looped at almost the exact same time at like 52-54 seconds  Could that be a conceptual thing? Maybe they analyzed entrances, matches, and figured an entrance should roughly last one minute, so the theme looping is a cue for that. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 14, 2023 1:54:34 GMT -5
I checked at one point, and most Johnston and CFO songs looped at almost the exact same time at like 52-54 seconds Could that be a conceptual thing? Maybe they analyzed entrances, matches, and figured an entrance should roughly last one minute, so the theme looping is a cue for that. it's also probably long enough you wouldn't notice exactly when it loops as usually the start of the loop is a full instrumental part... |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on May 14, 2023 10:06:45 GMT -5
As long as they leave Roman's alone, I'm good I'm honestly kinda surprised so many people like hte O Fortuna rip off song as much as they do <-< Not sure the song is as popular as it’s just a collective relief he’s no longer clinging onto that Shield remix (it barely qualifies as a remix, but that’s another rant altogether) like a dejected lover in Morrissey song. His ‘Head of the Table’ theme does sound bizarrely like it’s trying to do a midi cover of itself at times. |
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Post by 4real on May 14, 2023 10:46:05 GMT -5
Getting horrible flashbacks to the 2022 Royal Rumble when everyone had generic music I hated.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 14, 2023 18:34:38 GMT -5
Could that be a conceptual thing? Maybe they analyzed entrances, matches, and figured an entrance should roughly last one minute, so the theme looping is a cue for that. They've pretty much got entrance themes down to an exact science now. 1. Immediately identifiable needle drop 2. 50-55 seconds of track timed to the average ring entrance 3. Loop 2-3 times Just about every theme now follows this structure, and any that didn't have been edited to fit, like the unnecessary addition of the sword swing SFX to McIntyre's. While it didn't start with Stone Cold's theme (Hogan, Bret and Undertaker are probably the most notable prior examples), his theme is really the one that popularised the structure. |
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Post by CMWaters on May 14, 2023 19:09:25 GMT -5
Could that be a conceptual thing? Maybe they analyzed entrances, matches, and figured an entrance should roughly last one minute, so the theme looping is a cue for that. They've pretty much got entrance themes down to an exact science now. 1. Immediately identifiable needle drop 2. 50-55 seconds of track timed to the average ring entrance 3. Loop 2-3 times Just about every theme now follows this structure, and any that didn't have been edited to fit, like the unnecessary addition of the sword swing SFX to McIntyre's. While it didn't start with Stone Cold's theme (Hogan, Bret and Undertaker are probably the most notable prior examples), his theme is really the one that popularised the structure. If we're going by "Real American", it doesn't entirely fit the formula you listed. Due to the nature of Hogan's post match victory celebrations, there is a whole second verse to the song that we hear (although that was kinda a luck into it thing given the song was originally for the U.S. Express). |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 14, 2023 19:21:55 GMT -5
If we're going by "Real American", it doesn't entirely fit the formula you listed. Due to the nature of Hogan's post match victory celebrations, there is a whole second verse to the song that we hear (although that was kinda a luck into it thing given the song was originally for the U.S. Express). True, though I included "Real American" purely for it essentially being the prototype for the theme structure, albeit as a full song rather than a mere loop. Those opening few seconds are a powerful needle drop. |
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Post by CMWaters on May 14, 2023 19:28:37 GMT -5
If we're going by "Real American", it doesn't entirely fit the formula you listed. Due to the nature of Hogan's post match victory celebrations, there is a whole second verse to the song that we hear (although that was kinda a luck into it thing given the song was originally for the U.S. Express). True, though I included "Real American" purely for it essentially being the prototype for the theme structure, albeit as a full song rather than a mere loop. Those opening few seconds are a powerful needle drop. True, hence why they dropped the soft singing intro part of the song. The guitar is enough. An example of them not getting timing right for a theme was Kane's "Slow Chemical" theme, given we almost never got to the lyrics. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 14, 2023 19:37:25 GMT -5
An example of them not getting timing right for a theme was Kane's "Slow Chemical" theme, given we almost never got to the lyrics. I always chuckled when the WWE games of the time almost always cut the entrance off on the first line of the song. That was really a track they should have just kept instrumental for TV and kept the lyrical version exclusive to the CD. I remember a brief period when they truncated McIntyre's entrance but didn't cut the slow opening of "Broken Dreams", so he'd be in the ring before the main part of the theme kicked in. Pretty sure they cut the opening altogether shortly after and had it open on the first line. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on May 14, 2023 20:48:33 GMT -5
True, though I included "Real American" purely for it essentially being the prototype for the theme structure, albeit as a full song rather than a mere loop. Those opening few seconds are a powerful needle drop. True, hence why they dropped the soft singing intro part of the song. The guitar is enough. An example of them not getting timing right for a theme was Kane's "Slow Chemical" theme, given we almost never got to the lyrics. I think that was a good thing, b/c the lyrics were awful, and ruined what was a fantastic instrumental. |
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Post by 67 more on May 15, 2023 1:53:02 GMT -5
Everyone gets a f***ing choir remix.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 15, 2023 1:57:44 GMT -5
If they change Seth's theme there might be actual riots lmfao
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 15, 2023 2:05:55 GMT -5
Everyone gets a f***ing choir remix. MORE CHOIRS! CONFUSE THE CROWD EVEN MORE! >_> |
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on May 15, 2023 6:16:26 GMT -5
Give someone a choir theme where there's no repetition. Just constant changes.
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Post by fg on May 15, 2023 6:27:46 GMT -5
Watch them change the songs that are tied to people's gimmicks like Sami, and Seth >-> Let’s hope they don’t change Seth’s and Cody’s songs. They are bangers (especially Seth’s) |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 7:14:42 GMT -5
They've pretty much got entrance themes down to an exact science now. 1. Immediately identifiable needle drop 2. 50-55 seconds of track timed to the average ring entrance 3. Loop 2-3 times Just about every theme now follows this structure, and any that didn't have been edited to fit, like the unnecessary addition of the sword swing SFX to McIntyre's. While it didn't start with Stone Cold's theme (Hogan, Bret and Undertaker are probably the most notable prior examples), his theme is really the one that popularised the structure. If we're going by "Real American", it doesn't entirely fit the formula you listed. Due to the nature of Hogan's post match victory celebrations, there is a whole second verse to the song that we hear (although that was kinda a luck into it thing given the song was originally for the U.S. Express). Real American and Sexy Boy both utilize the fact that big post-match celebrations require totally sick guitar solos. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 15, 2023 7:21:50 GMT -5
Just give everybody William Regal's old "Man's Man" entrance theme. It'll totally work for the entire roster.
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Post by Dub H on May 15, 2023 9:05:16 GMT -5
With the track record of every change getting worse and more generic,the next batch is just gonna be the same song for everyone just changing the instrument used
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