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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 3, 2023 5:03:33 GMT -5
Honestly it's incredible that Lacey managed to keep her job after the whole blackface debacle. Guarantee a year later she wouldn't have because it would've gotten way more press.
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Post by XIII on Jun 3, 2023 5:11:50 GMT -5
I can safely say that female Sgt. Slaughter is a gimmick that never needed to exist no matter who got the role. The fact that it’s Lacey just makes it even more lame.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jun 3, 2023 5:31:37 GMT -5
Over 90% of fans have no idea on her social media posts, so I think that has nothing to do with it. WWE the strong majority of the time doesn't care about that stuff either. It is the stop go - stop go approach that is killing her. Her first southern belle gimmick probably worked best. The marine mom thing might have worked but they bailed too fast and made her blur the line between face and heel.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 3, 2023 5:50:03 GMT -5
Over 90% of fans have no idea on her social media posts, so I think that has nothing to do with it. WWE the strong majority of the time doesn't care about that stuff either. It is the stop go - stop go approach that is killing her. Her first southern belle gimmick probably worked best. The marine mom thing might have worked but they bailed too fast and made her blur the line between face and heel. I agree with you that WWEs ADD booking is the biggest reason for her various pushes failures. Followed by her limited abilities. But while the majority of fans may not care about her being a scumbag, and WWE may not care per se, they probably do consider such things. After all if they give her a good push and maybe the title then she posts something hateful they get unwanted attention. Someone like Roman, Orton, Lynch, etc. they will take their chances as they are a draw. But best not to waste a push on someone who sucks and could get you bad press.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 3, 2023 5:51:02 GMT -5
Four years ago she was pegged as being a future star on par with Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair. Now she looks like she’s raided a Party City. To quote Bruce Prichard: "And then the bell rang"
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 3, 2023 5:52:35 GMT -5
Over 90% of fans have no idea on her social media posts, so I think that has nothing to do with it. WWE the strong majority of the time doesn't care about that stuff either. It is the stop go - stop go approach that is killing her. Her first southern belle gimmick probably worked best. The marine mom thing might have worked but they bailed too fast and made her blur the line between face and heel. The Marine mom thing was working until Sasha and Bayley called her a loser, beat her, called her a loser again and beat her again
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 3, 2023 5:57:34 GMT -5
Over 90% of fans have no idea on her social media posts, so I think that has nothing to do with it. WWE the strong majority of the time doesn't care about that stuff either. It is the stop go - stop go approach that is killing her. Her first southern belle gimmick probably worked best. The marine mom thing might have worked but they bailed too fast and made her blur the line between face and heel. The Marine mom thing was working until Sasha and Bayley called her a loser, beat her, called her a loser again and beat her again Yeah, that's something WWE has never learned: If you have heels call a face a loser and beat them, that is confirming they were correct and giving fans permission to not give a shit about that person anymore. Like, it was infuriating when NJPW had Okada doing that to Naito years ago, but at least Naito got revenge on him and won the rivalry, even if it took him years to do it. In WWE, though? Very rarely does the face get payback in those situations, and it's often far too late.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 3, 2023 6:04:44 GMT -5
The Marine mom thing was working until Sasha and Bayley called her a loser, beat her, called her a loser again and beat her again Yeah, that's something WWE has never learned: If you have heels call a face a loser and beat them, that is confirming they were correct and giving fans permission to not give a shit about that person anymore. Like, it was infuriating when NJPW had Okada doing that to Naito years ago, but at least Naito got revenge on him and won the rivalry, even if it took him years to do it. In WWE, though? Very rarely does the face get payback in those situations, and it's often far too late. They straight up killed Bayley as a face the exact same way. She should have been the female Cena, but they sacrificed it all in the name of putting Alexa Bliss over. The only way they could have buried her worse was if she simultaneously cried while peeing her pants after losing to Bliss
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 3, 2023 6:20:47 GMT -5
Yeah, that's something WWE has never learned: If you have heels call a face a loser and beat them, that is confirming they were correct and giving fans permission to not give a shit about that person anymore. Like, it was infuriating when NJPW had Okada doing that to Naito years ago, but at least Naito got revenge on him and won the rivalry, even if it took him years to do it. In WWE, though? Very rarely does the face get payback in those situations, and it's often far too late. They straight up killed Bayley as a face the exact same way. She should have been the female Cena, but they sacrificed it all in the name of putting Alexa Bliss over. The only way they could have buried her worse was if she simultaneously cried while peeing her pants after losing to Bliss They at least had her humiliate Alexa in their later feud, even handily beating her and Nikki at the same time in a match, but the problem is that A. it came too later, and B. they still didn't go with what should have been the obvious spot, given Bayley never got to use the damn stick on her. It'd have been the way to go.
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Post by mistery on Jun 3, 2023 6:25:16 GMT -5
Let's just say really problematic shit that wasn't correct and when she was called out on sharing such stuff she like tripled down on it. It was not a good look. That's ... Really vague. I'm legit curious. So PM me a link? I mean I'm not saying this is this case at all, but sometimes people lean way politically and a group of people will condemn them as awful, when like... It's just an opinion? I kno politics is a big no no on here, so please, help a brother out. I don't think its a political statement to say that her posting stuff like "processed foods cause autism" (which isn't true btw) is a bad look for the company. That's just the tip of the iceberg though.
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jun 3, 2023 7:09:07 GMT -5
That's ... Really vague. I'm legit curious. So PM me a link? I mean I'm not saying this is this case at all, but sometimes people lean way politically and a group of people will condemn them as awful, when like... It's just an opinion? I kno politics is a big no no on here, so please, help a brother out. I don't think its a political statement to say that her posting stuff like "processed foods cause autism" (which isn't true btw) is a bad look for the company. That's just the tip of the iceberg though. Yea, a couple of people PM'd her stuff to me. What Lacey did is damn near unforgivable.
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Post by Legion on Jun 3, 2023 9:20:28 GMT -5
Still say the best way to get this over is have her and Sarge actually do some stuff together.
Most of the audience doesnt care/know about stolen valour and Sarge is always over.
Some training vignettes and calling each other maggot would do wonders for her as long as they then actually let her win a bit.
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Post by clc on Jun 3, 2023 10:10:52 GMT -5
Yeah, that's something WWE has never learned: If you have heels call a face a loser and beat them, that is confirming they were correct and giving fans permission to not give a shit about that person anymore. Like, it was infuriating when NJPW had Okada doing that to Naito years ago, but at least Naito got revenge on him and won the rivalry, even if it took him years to do it. In WWE, though? Very rarely does the face get payback in those situations, and it's often far too late. They straight up killed Bayley as a face the exact same way. She should have been the female Cena, but they sacrificed it all in the name of putting Alexa Bliss over. The only way they could have buried her worse was if she simultaneously cried while peeing her pants after losing to Bliss It would not have suprised me. Before her heel turn, I was convinced that main-roster Bayley's gimmick was that she was an actual child. When she went heel, I made the joke that she was going through her rebellious teen phase.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 3, 2023 10:54:50 GMT -5
That's ... Really vague. I'm legit curious. So PM me a link? I mean I'm not saying this is this case at all, but sometimes people lean way politically and a group of people will condemn them as awful, when like... It's just an opinion? I kno politics is a big no no on here, so please, help a brother out. I don't think its a political statement to say that her posting stuff like "processed foods cause autism" (which isn't true btw) is a bad look for the company. That's just the tip of the iceberg though. Yeah, stuff like "Autism and ADD didn't exist before the 1980s" is not a good hill to die on.
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 3, 2023 11:02:28 GMT -5
I swear this looks like the start of a certain kind of “parody” film.
The not-PG kind.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jun 3, 2023 11:04:13 GMT -5
I swear this looks like the start of a certain kind of “parody” film. The not-PG kind. Asuka and Shotzi were both out there and Lacey was somehow the weirdest looking woman in the segment with her hat.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 3, 2023 11:05:10 GMT -5
This is how you know she’s a millennial. Any 80’s kid knows the sarge fought Cobra.
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Post by dbrussel on Jun 3, 2023 12:37:27 GMT -5
Hope they don't think this gonna work in 2023. Hell, even the original sgt slaughter character would not work today.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 3, 2023 13:00:18 GMT -5
Lacey is a tragic, spectacular failure. On one hand she's another of a million people WWE wanted to push as a big star only to have no idea how to actually push them. On the other, she's also absolute dogshit. Bad at promos, bad at wrestling, just bad. Maybe I'd feel bad for her if she didn't think frozen chicken strips gave kids autism, and maybe the people who believe frozen chicken strips gave kids autism would feel bad if she didn't also do ads for frozen chicken strips.
Absolute f***ing mess of an existence.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jun 3, 2023 13:23:16 GMT -5
Over 90% of fans have no idea on her social media posts, so I think that has nothing to do with it. WWE the strong majority of the time doesn't care about that stuff either. It is the stop go - stop go approach that is killing her. Her first southern belle gimmick probably worked best. The marine mom thing might have worked but they bailed too fast and made her blur the line between face and heel. I still have no idea what that Marine mom thing was. She’d give these sad pretapes about the real story of her abusive childhood where she’s legit on the verge of tears and she talked about overcoming it and making it in the military..and it’s like, cool, I’m glad she’s doing better and trying to inspire people. She even debuts the gimmick and like..people are kinda into it! It’s not a rousing success but nothing wrong with being in that Liv Morgan uppercard babyface roll right? But then one day they were just like “you know the two months e spent making you be a sympathetic babyface who cried about your terrible childhood? Yeah f*** that you’re an asshole again” and she’s just never fully recovered.
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