Sephiroth
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 6, 2023 5:41:56 GMT -5
Have you seen the amount of advertising the army does? They were probably just as glad for it. Yeah, given GI Joe, the odds are basically zero that the military has ever given a shit. They also probably excuse it due to him less likely to do it as Remus and being "Sgt. Slaughter", so it's a bit more ambiguous than specific lies like Brian Dennehy before he got confronted about it. If the army was going to get upset at anything, it should have been that GIJoe all went to the imperial stormtrooper academy of marksmanship. “A real American hero!-who couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn if it was gnawing on their leg!”
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 6, 2023 6:14:33 GMT -5
I'll put to the side my views on her public views, though they rhyme with Buck Doff. I just checked this on Wiki. WWE currently have over thirty female wrestlers under contract who I'd easily call better than Lacey Evans, a few which I could easily believe WILL be better than Lacey Evans as they gain experience, and that's over 20 of them on the main roster alone. She shouldn't be getting all these chances because he's a horrible person. But she shouldn't be getting them, because there are so many better options under contract. I get your point, but at the same time… What chance is she even getting at this point? She lost clean to Zelina Vega, who rarely gets those kinds of wins. Seriously, they only bring Evans out now to lose to someone, and even then it’s not that often. This was her first match since March, only her fifth in the entire calendar year. Hell, the only matches she’s won this year are over outside enhancement talents, and it’s been nearly a full year since she’s beaten someone on the actual roster. If this were someone who didn’t have problematic IRL takes and/or could work better in the ring, we’d be calling this exact same kind of booking a burial of that person.
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Ben Wyatt
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 6, 2023 6:21:10 GMT -5
I'll put to the side my views on her public views, though they rhyme with Buck Doff. I just checked this on Wiki. WWE currently have over thirty female wrestlers under contract who I'd easily call better than Lacey Evans, a few which I could easily believe WILL be better than Lacey Evans as they gain experience, and that's over 20 of them on the main roster alone. She shouldn't be getting all these chances because he's a horrible person. But she shouldn't be getting them, because there are so many better options under contract. I get your point, but at the same time… What chance is she even getting at this point? She lost clean to Zelina Vega, who rarely gets those kinds of wins. Seriously, they only bring Evans out now to lose to someone, and even then it’s not that often. This was her first match since March, only her fifth in the entire calendar year. Hell, the only matches she’s won this year are over outside enhancement talents, and it’s been nearly a full year since she’s beaten someone on the actual roster. If this were someone who didn’t have problematic IRL takes and/or could work better in the ring, we’d be calling this exact same kind of booking a burial of that person. Furthermore, she's never won a feud. Hell, she's never won a big match.
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Push R Truth
Patti Mayonnaise
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 6, 2023 6:46:34 GMT -5
I honestly believe Lacey is being used as one of those "everybody thinks we are going to give her a big push because of our history, so we trot her out to put people over" sort of things. And it works. Every time she comes out the last couple years I think "Oh boy here comes the big Lacey USA push"... and then she gets beat. She's a jobber that feels like she's not a jobber.
If this is actually the WWE's intent it's fairly brilliant. If it's not their intent, they've stumbled their way into something that works. And I say this as a dude that dispises her in and out of the ring. But I have to admit the "fear" of the Lacey push does work.
Now watch her go on a winning streak and be Lacey Two Belts by Wrestlemania. *barf*
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Post by poodoojenkins on Jun 6, 2023 6:57:48 GMT -5
Is this woman trying to get fired or something? What does she think she gains from all of this? Just just bafflingly dumb holy shit. I held off on embedding because I didn't want to amplify, but goddam this moron - I mean.... Lacey Evans is a moron. We all know that. But in this case, maybe she has a point? Like, Slaughter and his daughter shouldn't be crying about gimmick infringement when out of the 3, Lacey Evans is the only one who ACTUALLY served in the military. Just kinda rich that Sgt. Stolen Valor wants to say a damn word, frankly.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 6, 2023 7:23:39 GMT -5
This is one of those situations where just about everybody looks dumb and should quiet down. Lacey's not exactly the finest person on earth, Sgt. Slaughter never served, god only knows what his daughter is trying to do. Just seems lame.
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Post by mistery on Jun 6, 2023 7:35:11 GMT -5
This is one of those situations where just about everybody looks dumb and should quiet down. Lacey's not exactly the finest person on earth, Sgt. Slaughter never served, god only knows what his daughter is trying to do. Just seems lame. His daughter is just pissed she is basically ripping his gimmick off wholesale from what I can see. Regardless, its baffling how Lacey stays employed with WWE considering she is an overwhelmingly mediocre at best performer and just can't keep her head down. Ever. It feels like the only reason they keep her around is because she is a "WWE Mom". When that...isn't impressive these days. Especially when you have two (soon to be four) women who are also moms and tend to keep themselves out of trouble. Asuka, Becky, and soon to be Carmella and Alexa.
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msc
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Post by msc on Jun 6, 2023 7:36:46 GMT -5
I'll put to the side my views on her public views, though they rhyme with Buck Doff. I just checked this on Wiki. WWE currently have over thirty female wrestlers under contract who I'd easily call better than Lacey Evans, a few which I could easily believe WILL be better than Lacey Evans as they gain experience, and that's over 20 of them on the main roster alone. She shouldn't be getting all these chances because he's a horrible person. But she shouldn't be getting them, because there are so many better options under contract. I get your point, but at the same time… What chance is she even getting at this point? She lost clean to Zelina Vega, who rarely gets those kinds of wins. Seriously, they only bring Evans out now to lose to someone, and even then it’s not that often. This was her first match since March, only her fifth in the entire calendar year. Hell, the only matches she’s won this year are over outside enhancement talents, and it’s been nearly a full year since she’s beaten someone on the actual roster.
If this were someone who didn’t have problematic IRL takes and/or could work better in the ring, we’d be calling this exact same kind of booking a burial of that person. I see this point but would like to mention that "doing nothing but taking up some TV time" Lacey Evans has had thrice the number of TV matches that Emma has had since the Royal Rumble.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 6, 2023 7:52:27 GMT -5
I get your point, but at the same time… What chance is she even getting at this point? She lost clean to Zelina Vega, who rarely gets those kinds of wins. Seriously, they only bring Evans out now to lose to someone, and even then it’s not that often. This was her first match since March, only her fifth in the entire calendar year. Hell, the only matches she’s won this year are over outside enhancement talents, and it’s been nearly a full year since she’s beaten someone on the actual roster.
If this were someone who didn’t have problematic IRL takes and/or could work better in the ring, we’d be calling this exact same kind of booking a burial of that person. I see this point but would like to mention that "doing nothing but taking up some TV time" Lacey Evans has had thrice the number of TV matches that Emma has had since the Royal Rumble. Emma at least now has the "opportunity" to work Main Event, so she'll boost her stats massively in comparison. But that speaks of the whole separate issue of SmackDown not having had a B-show for that purpose since 2016, which would allow for many of these fringe TV talents, male and female alike, to get reps. But, like... What's stopping them from giving Evans the same regular TV time even just to lose that they give, say, Sonya Deville (14 TV matches this year as of RAW this week)? It could be plausible that they don't want to have Evans lose too much, but at the same time, they're not even giving her the matches to win to make that "protection" worthwhile.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 6, 2023 8:06:40 GMT -5
This is one of those situations where just about everybody looks dumb and should quiet down. Lacey's not exactly the finest person on earth, Sgt. Slaughter never served, god only knows what his daughter is trying to do. Just seems lame. Yeah, this is where I check-in on the matter. Like, Lacey especially though. If she'd simply shut up whenever they *do* try to do something with her, people wont forget, but they won't actively go after her either.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 6, 2023 9:02:15 GMT -5
I'll put to the side my views on her public views, though they rhyme with Buck Doff. I just checked this on Wiki. WWE currently have over thirty female wrestlers under contract who I'd easily call better than Lacey Evans, a few which I could easily believe WILL be better than Lacey Evans as they gain experience, and that's over 20 of them on the main roster alone. She shouldn't be getting all these chances because he's a horrible person. But she shouldn't be getting them, because there are so many better options under contract. I get your point, but at the same time… What chance is she even getting at this point? She lost clean to Zelina Vega, who rarely gets those kinds of wins. Seriously, they only bring Evans out now to lose to someone, and even then it’s not that often. This was her first match since March, only her fifth in the entire calendar year. Hell, the only matches she’s won this year are over outside enhancement talents, and it’s been nearly a full year since she’s beaten someone on the actual roster. If this were someone who didn’t have problematic IRL takes and/or could work better in the ring, we’d be calling this exact same kind of booking a burial of that person. The elimination of Zelina, I think that was the moment Triple H gave up completely on her. Not that she eliminated Zelina, but how she did it, she didn't even try to protect Zelina and tossed her face first to the floor. Looking it up she got one more win after that, and it was against outside enhancement. This was just after repackaging her again.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jun 6, 2023 9:49:07 GMT -5
Just just bafflingly dumb holy shit. I held off on embedding because I didn't want to amplify, but goddam this moron - I mean.... Lacey Evans is a moron. We all know that. But in this case, maybe she has a point? Like, Slaughter and his daughter shouldn't be crying about gimmick infringement when out of the 3, Lacey Evans is the only one who ACTUALLY served in the military. Just kinda rich that Sgt. Stolen Valor wants to say a damn word, frankly. Eh, a ripped off gimmick is a ripped off gimmick, regardless how much more legitimate she is IRL. Sgt. Slaughter didn't have to come back to try and get her over, and if the last week is any indication, probably shouldn't have. He retired almost a decade ago with his Legends contract and his WWE Hall of Fame ring, he's set. She's the one who's on her sixth or seventh gimmick in so many years, whose last on-screen victory against someone who wasn't a local jobber was a three minute, 2-on-1 handicap match against Sonya Deville almost a whole year ago. As for "her point", ask f***ing Gunner how far being a real Marine gets you when you can't wrestle.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Jun 6, 2023 10:49:11 GMT -5
I mean.... Lacey Evans is a moron. We all know that. But in this case, maybe she has a point? Like, Slaughter and his daughter shouldn't be crying about gimmick infringement when out of the 3, Lacey Evans is the only one who ACTUALLY served in the military. Just kinda rich that Sgt. Stolen Valor wants to say a damn word, frankly. Eh, a ripped off gimmick is a ripped off gimmick, regardless how much more legitimate she is IRL. Sgt. Slaughter didn't have to come back to try and get her over, and if the last week is any indication, probably shouldn't have. He retired almost a decade ago with his Legends contract and his WWE Hall of Fame ring, he's set. She's the one who's on her sixth or seventh gimmick in so many years, whose last on-screen victory against someone who wasn't a local jobber was a three minute, 2-on-1 handicap match against Sonya Deville almost a whole year ago. As for "her point", ask f***ing Gunner how far being a real Marine gets you when you can't wrestle. I'm not sure why you thought that "her point" had anything to do with how far being a marine gets you in wrestling. Nobody even brought that up but you. You're also using your obvious distaste for her to just ignore the fact that she is an actual marine being lectured about a "gimmick" by someone who based his life and career on stolen valor. Frankly, she should have gone harder on Slaughter, because f*** that noise. I don't like a lot of her personal beliefs either, but that doesn't mean she needs to take guff from a fake hero. Slaughter wasn't the first, last, or only person to have a military man gimmick, but he IS the only one to claim valor that doesn't belong to him. Probably best he just keeps his mouth shut around someone who actually served. That holds doubly true for his daughter, who hasn't done shit in wrestling OR the military.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jun 6, 2023 11:58:42 GMT -5
Is this woman trying to get fired or something? What does she think she gains from all of this? Just just bafflingly dumb holy shit. I held off on embedding because I didn't want to amplify, but goddam this moron - Lacey has said some dumb unforgivable shit in the past but I really don't see an issue with this? She's clearly tweeting in gimmick and she hardly said anything bad anyway.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 6, 2023 12:00:17 GMT -5
I WONDER WHAT BOOKER T HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jun 6, 2023 12:02:01 GMT -5
Just just bafflingly dumb holy shit. I held off on embedding because I didn't want to amplify, but goddam this moron - Lacey has said some dumb unforgivable shit in the past but I really don't see an issue with this? She's clearly tweeting in gimmick and she hardly said anything bad anyway. She's coming at a Hall of Famer's daughter after previous tweets of threatening her with physical violence. She's just not letting up.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jun 6, 2023 12:02:54 GMT -5
Slaughter's done more for the military than Lacey ever has.
There, I said it.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 6, 2023 12:05:29 GMT -5
Slaughter's done more for the military than Lacey ever has. There, I said it. He whipped that screw-up Lt. Falcon into shape. That alone deserves some sort of medal!
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jun 6, 2023 12:09:56 GMT -5
Lacey has said some dumb unforgivable shit in the past but I really don't see an issue with this? She's clearly tweeting in gimmick and she hardly said anything bad anyway. She's coming at a Hall of Famer's daughter after previous tweets of threatening her with physical violence. She's just not letting up. To me it looks like they're coming at her and she is just responding in gimmick? (and Slaughter is seemingly try to drum up interest in a match with his daughter, does she even wrestle?) I've not seen anything where's she threatening her with physical violence, I must have missed that one
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jun 6, 2023 12:14:10 GMT -5
She's coming at a Hall of Famer's daughter after previous tweets of threatening her with physical violence. She's just not letting up. To me it looks like they're coming at her and she is just responding in gimmick? (and Slaughter is seemingly try to drum up interest in a match with his daughter, does she even wrestle?) I've not seen anything where's she threatening her with physical violence, I must have missed that one Look through her tweets from the past week. She 100% in the wrong for this.
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