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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jun 10, 2023 21:59:29 GMT -5
The thing that gets me about Flair isn’t the always being around the title and the always winning stuff (because to me, most of that is just people wanting that exact treatment for their favourites instead), it’s that she comes off as very impersonal, cold and detached. Which is all well and good if she’s heel and she leans into the whole ice queen thing, but half the time she’s apparently meant to be babyface, which then basically means her only virtues are being good at wrestling and fighting the designated heel. Compare her to other top babyfaces. Belair may be confident bordering on arrogant, but she comes off way more friendly too. Lynch is a brash and bombastic rock star that thrives off the people, funnily enough acting more like Ric than his own daughter does. In a weird way she's like a bizzaro genderflipped Cody Rhodes. Besides AEW Cody's run, which still showed that literally no Rhodes ever should be in charge of their own booking and storylines cause yikes, Cody currently is nothing like his dad in the sense of he wears fancy suits, has an elaborate entrance, and has some of the most over the top cornball shit on the show, compared to his dad's common man blue collar character. He comes across as brave, a little stupid at times, but he has morals and values and something you can relate too. He doesn't feel like some douchebag nepobaby that we begrudgingly accepted. While I don't think live crowds are as harsh on Charlotte anymore because of her longevity, she's never really made the smug assholeishness that her dad had and made it cool. Now she feels like some douchebag nepobaby that we begrudgingly accept cause her ring work is mostly great on a big stage.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jun 11, 2023 5:48:21 GMT -5
I think Charlotte wins another title in a triple threat match in London vs. Bianca and Asuka.
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Post by mistery on Jun 11, 2023 6:53:40 GMT -5
The funny thing is that WWE is absolutely going to edit the crowd reactions on the Smackdown before MITB to suit their narratives. Because its not exactly the riskiest bet to assume that both Bianca and Charlotte aren't exactly going to be received well by the UK audiences. But WWE will pipe in cheers for them, and boos for Asuka.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 11, 2023 7:01:03 GMT -5
The funny thing is that WWE is absolutely going to edit the crowd reactions on the Smackdown before MITB to suit their narratives. Because its not exactly the riskiest bet to assume that both Bianca and Charlotte aren't exactly going to be received well by the UK audiences. But WWE will pipe in cheers for them, and boos for Asuka. Depends on what the storyline is. There's an assumption that Bianca's going to turn heel while Charlotte stays face, but I think it's more likely they're going for a Charlotte/Becky 2018 dynamic where fans got even more behind Becky because they thought WWE was trying to make her the heel, and where Charlotte eventually had to turn heel to make the story make sense.
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Post by deezy on Jun 11, 2023 7:08:05 GMT -5
I'll be happy when that happens. I would say I know I'm in the minority when that happens but I maybe the only person who will be happy about it. Lol
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Post by mistery on Jun 11, 2023 7:19:17 GMT -5
Fairly old tweet but it sums up exactly why people are absolutely sick of Charlotte. You can just FEEL the entitlement oozing off of her.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jun 11, 2023 10:35:35 GMT -5
Fairly old tweet but it sums up exactly why people are absolutely sick of Charlotte. You can just FEEL the entitlement oozing off of her. It's fine to have a bit of arrogance and confidence but her attitude comes at the cost of others and Asuka is usually the one who suffers.
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 11, 2023 10:45:19 GMT -5
I’d love for someone to ask Charlotte why seemingly EVERY other top woman can spend time doing non-title stuff. But she NEEDS to always be in the title picture?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 10:46:21 GMT -5
I just find it weird how Charlotte got like 70 super short title runs in a row and then when she finally got a lengthier one she spent the entire reign not defending the damn thing.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jun 11, 2023 15:37:19 GMT -5
Flair is wrong, we all trashed Big Dave for his unlimited title shot cheat code back in the day.
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Post by mistery on Jun 11, 2023 17:38:49 GMT -5
Charlotte having a meltdown, quoting the infamous Triple H promo that ended up causing WWE to suffer a huge decline:
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jun 11, 2023 18:49:16 GMT -5
I think people can go overboard with the Charlotte hate, but she doesn't help herself with her lack of self-awareness sometimes and she reminds me a bit of Britt Baker with how much she complains (except I can at least understand some of Britt's frustration since her character HAS taken a major step back while Charlotte's been pretty much doing the same thing for almost 8 years)
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 11, 2023 19:08:10 GMT -5
Britt Baker also always lost far more then Charlotte as well.
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Post by schma on Jun 11, 2023 19:17:36 GMT -5
Adam Pearce looked like such a goof there (I know, he generally looks incompetent). You have to wait in line. I don't wait in line. Okay.
I really hope they didn't just put the belt on Asuka for a transitional reign, though it's looking that way.
If the division were deeper this would be a great way to elevate a journeyman who has been there a while, has support and sees Charlotte just walking into opportunities and feuds with her. It'd be a good way for Charlotte to have a non-title feud, if they put the journeyman over. Sadly, the divisions are basically world conquerers and jobbers for the most part with little to no in between.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 11, 2023 19:59:24 GMT -5
This OP sounds like a threat to my personal well-being
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Post by grungesmurf on Jun 11, 2023 20:03:23 GMT -5
My favorite match of hers will always be Vs Carmella when she cashed in after The Iiconics debuted!
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Post by CubsFan71 on Jun 11, 2023 21:25:05 GMT -5
Fairly old tweet but it sums up exactly why people are absolutely sick of Charlotte. You can just FEEL the entitlement oozing off of her. Excellence? That what we calling nepotism these days? Yeah Charlotte, you are always in the title picture. Problem is you aren’t the title picture to help benefit the women’s roster. You are in it at the EXPENSE of the womens roster. The women’s roster is pretty useless because only a select few get title shots. It’s always Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, Bianca. And usually poor Asuka suffers the most. If you want to help the women’s roster. Stay out of the title picture for awhile. You don’t always have to be in the title picture
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 11, 2023 21:47:00 GMT -5
I just find it weird how Charlotte got like 70 super short title runs in a row and then when she finally got a lengthier one she spent the entire reign not defending the damn thing.
She started wrestling way less on TV when she went to Smackdown in October 2021. After having matches nearly every week on Raw, she had like eight matches in seven months, some of them quite short, and two of the longer ones (the tag and single matches vs Toni) taped on the same night. Then she only had three or so TV matches after returning to beat Ronda, it's interesting.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Jun 12, 2023 2:36:17 GMT -5
Charlotte Flair is an exceptional talent. Top tier. Like, worrthy of being the discussion for best in the world currently.
I really dislike her attitude and booking.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 12, 2023 8:24:29 GMT -5
I think it would be hilarious if Ric got pissed and does a shoot promo about her bullshit number padding booking when she breaks his record.
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