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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 22, 2023 8:42:27 GMT -5
Not to sound like a Microwave Baby™, but like... sometimes you need to pull the trigger NOW. What are we waiting for here? I don't know. Doesn't help that our first impulse is to jump straight to "The booker man HATES him and the fans" for this kind of stuff, so that basically makes it impossible for anyone to lose unless they're already hated by the fanbase.
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Post by J is Justice on Jul 22, 2023 17:09:17 GMT -5
We just didn't know what we had with Selfie Theory.
Remember when he took that pic with Vince and he looked like Pizza the Hut? Remember when he sold the Stunner by returning to his home planet? Remember when Brock chased him around the Chamber? Good times.
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 22, 2023 20:22:06 GMT -5
Someone in HQ was thinking Theory was a 20-something Finn Balor with years and years ahead of him.
The issues with that are a) Balor still had a shit-ton of goodwill thrown his way and hopes were high that he would be rebuilt, and b) Theory was not, in any way, shape or form, going to benefit from Vince's creative input on him.
Theory may need to go McIntyre's route - leave the company, pay some more dues elsewhere and build up his reputation in the indies or, indeed, AEW, and return in five or six years with more cachet on his name and some improvement in his work. It may take a couple years for him to wash Vince's stink off him entirely, but it may be worth it in the end if it means he comes back with main-event buzz. Right now, he's holding a midcard title that does nothing for him nor is he doing anything for it.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 22, 2023 20:33:12 GMT -5
We just didn't know what we had with Selfie Theory. Remember when he took that pic with Vince and he looked like Pizza the Hut The Fiend? Remember when he sold the Stunner by returning to his home planet? Remember when Brock chased him around the Chamber? Good times.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 22, 2023 21:24:25 GMT -5
Dude got owned so bad by Michael Cole on commentary last week that this week he just sat ringside.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Jul 23, 2023 2:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by Goon on Jul 23, 2023 4:58:53 GMT -5
Someone is gonna need to fill his role and Theory can’t get it done. I kind of expect Dom to take over the Miz role eventually.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jul 23, 2023 5:33:55 GMT -5
Someone is gonna need to fill his role and Theory can’t get it done. I kind of expect Dom to take over the Miz role eventually. Rhea made Dom into a very different man than The Miz is.
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Post by BlahBlah on Jul 24, 2023 14:32:13 GMT -5
Someone in HQ was thinking Theory was a 20-something Finn Balor with years and years ahead of him. The issues with that are a) Balor still had a shit-ton of goodwill thrown his way and hopes were high that he would be rebuilt, and b) Theory was not, in any way, shape or form, going to benefit from Vince's creative input on him. Theory may need to go McIntyre's route - leave the company, pay some more dues elsewhere and build up his reputation in the indies or, indeed, AEW, and return in five or six years with more cachet on his name and some improvement in his work. It may take a couple years for him to wash Vince's stink off him entirely, but it may be worth it in the end if it means he comes back with main-event buzz. Right now, he's holding a midcard title that does nothing for him nor is he doing anything for it. He worked Evolve for a few years, he's paid his dues. They either need to have him drop the belt and tweak his character or send him to NXT to really rebuild because everything outside of the ring needs to get fleshed out. It'll always work for him that he has a great look and is well above average in-ring.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jul 24, 2023 15:04:02 GMT -5
Someone in HQ was thinking Theory was a 20-something Finn Balor with years and years ahead of him. The issues with that are a) Balor still had a shit-ton of goodwill thrown his way and hopes were high that he would be rebuilt, and b) Theory was not, in any way, shape or form, going to benefit from Vince's creative input on him. Theory may need to go McIntyre's route - leave the company, pay some more dues elsewhere and build up his reputation in the indies or, indeed, AEW, and return in five or six years with more cachet on his name and some improvement in his work. It may take a couple years for him to wash Vince's stink off him entirely, but it may be worth it in the end if it means he comes back with main-event buzz. Right now, he's holding a midcard title that does nothing for him nor is he doing anything for it. He worked Evolve for a few years, he's paid his dues. They either need to have him drop the belt and tweak his character or send him to NXT to really rebuild because everything outside of the ring needs to get fleshed out. It'll always work for him that he has a great look and is well above average in-ring. And McIntyre had years on the European indies. Sometimes even established guys need an excursion to reach the next level, Nakamura and Naito needed it too using an outside example.
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Post by BlahBlah on Jul 24, 2023 15:20:33 GMT -5
He worked Evolve for a few years, he's paid his dues. They either need to have him drop the belt and tweak his character or send him to NXT to really rebuild because everything outside of the ring needs to get fleshed out. It'll always work for him that he has a great look and is well above average in-ring. And McIntyre had years on the European indies. Sometimes even established guys need an excursion to reach the next level, Nakamura and Naito needed it too using an outside example. I don't disagree but WWE has the unique advantage of being able to shuttle people down to a brand that they also own. He can completely retool in NXT.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 24, 2023 15:26:52 GMT -5
And McIntyre had years on the European indies. Sometimes even established guys need an excursion to reach the next level, Nakamura and Naito needed it too using an outside example. I don't disagree but WWE has the unique advantage of being able to shuttle people down to a brand that they also own. He can completely retool in NXT. The people is that doesn’t guarantee what he learned will be taken up to the main roster. By all accounts, the problems that affected NXT B&G are still there where Michaels and HHH don’t talk to each other so we might end up exactly where we are except Theory’s just been in “developmental” for a few more months.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 24, 2023 15:38:40 GMT -5
I don't disagree but WWE has the unique advantage of being able to shuttle people down to a brand that they also own. He can completely retool in NXT. The people is that doesn’t guarantee what he learned will be taken up to the main roster. By all accounts, the problems that affected NXT B&G are still there where Michaels and HHH don’t talk to each other so we might end up exactly where we are except Theory’s just been in “developmental” for a few more months. Has Triple H been completely changing a lot of NXT callups recently? Pretty Deadly, Zoey Stark, Grayson Waller don’t seem drastically different (if different at all) than their NXT characters.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 24, 2023 15:43:50 GMT -5
I don't disagree but WWE has the unique advantage of being able to shuttle people down to a brand that they also own. He can completely retool in NXT. The people is that doesn’t guarantee what he learned will be taken up to the main roster. By all accounts, the problems that affected NXT B&G are still there where Michaels and HHH don’t talk to each other so we might end up exactly where we are except Theory’s just been in “developmental” for a few more months. I truly don't think I can recall a case where going back down to NXT actually helped somebody. Finn Balor went to NXT, had a decent little run there, came back to the main roster and within months found himself back in main roster purgatory. It wasn't until Judgment Day that he seemed to reach that next level. Apollo Crews went to NXT and now he's back on RAW but only seems to show up on Main Event. Dolph Ziggler did his stint in NXT, came back and is barely on TV anymore. Baron Corbin's seemingly trying to reinvent himself down there now but even with him, I fully expect him to show back up and get lost in the mix again.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 24, 2023 18:49:26 GMT -5
Cena honestly did everything to put dude over without actually putting him over (like, even 2008 HHH would be impressed) but Theory’s buns and Cena tha God that should have never had one of his last matches wasted on this nonsense so that’s fine.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 5, 2023 23:52:21 GMT -5
This dude's so nothing at this point that he didn't even get an entrance then got tossed like it was nothing halfway through the match.
Can they please get the belt off him now?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 6, 2023 0:04:22 GMT -5
This dude's so nothing at this point that he didn't even get an entrance then got tossed like it was nothing halfway through the match. Can they please get the belt off him now? what’s that? Six more months you say?
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Post by J is Justice on Aug 6, 2023 0:06:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I think he's done. Who eliminated him? Can't even remember, lol.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 6, 2023 0:07:20 GMT -5
This dude's so nothing at this point that he didn't even get an entrance then got tossed like it was nothing halfway through the match. Can they please get the belt off him now? what’s that? Six more months you say? Honestly I genuinely think they're going to drag his reign out to Mania where he'll face LA Knight and beat him in yet another misguided attempt to get Theory over.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 6, 2023 0:08:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I think he's done. Who eliminated him? Can't even remember, lol. Escobar. Like, Theory didn't even get far enough to be one of the guys who got to gang up and eliminate Omos, like.
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