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Post by saneiac on Jul 15, 2023 21:52:37 GMT -5
I'm not gonna comment on it further after this post. Nia Jax was no where near as bad as everyone said. She was a BBW so people hated her. She's not white, so to many people she's lesser. The evidence is right there. I'm out of this thread. Hopefully Elton is able to recover quickly. Awesome Kong is a non-white BBW. She is also known to have started backstage fights with other performers and even with a fan. By your logic, everyone must hate Awesome Kong, right? No. Not even close. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2023 22:00:02 GMT -5
I'm not gonna comment on it further after this post. Nia Jax was no where near as bad as everyone said. She was a BBW so people hated her. She's not white, so to many people she's lesser. The evidence is right there. I'm out of this thread. Hopefully Elton is able to recover quickly. Holy f***ing shit, we always gotta get these unhinged mask off comments from people in threads like this, and this is no exception And in case it needs to be said, and it doesn't, Nia was hated because she was a sloppy worker and injured multiple people... and then she also downplayed it and mocked people online instead of apologizing or... saying nothing. If Nia could actually work a match and could cut a promo, she'd have been fine, but she couldn't... at all. And she was given every chance in the world to be something despite all that. This has nothing to do with race and the fact you brought it into this is really f***ing gross to me tbh. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 15, 2023 22:14:25 GMT -5
Also people kind of just get weird when it comes to the women in general. Brie Bella probably caught it even worse than Nia did and she didn't screw up nearly as badly.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 15, 2023 22:16:45 GMT -5
No Boy!!!
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Post by JasonVoorhees1988 on Jul 15, 2023 22:20:37 GMT -5
I'm not gonna comment on it further after this post. Nia Jax was no where near as bad as everyone said. She was a BBW so people hated her. She's not white, so to many people she's lesser. The evidence is right there. I'm out of this thread. Hopefully Elton is able to recover quickly. Holy f***ing shit, we always gotta get these unhinged mask off comments from people in threads like this, and this is no exception And in case it needs to be said, and it doesn't, Nia was hated because she was a sloppy worker and injured multiple people... and then she also downplayed it and mocked people online instead of apologizing or... saying nothing. If Nia could actually work a match and could cut a promo, she'd have been fine, but she couldn't... at all. And she was given every chance in the world to be something despite all that. This has nothing to do with race and the fact you brought it into this is really f***ing gross to me tbh. As a black man myself, I see racism when it happens. Im not gonna be quiet about this. But I promised I was out of the thread. And I will no longer participate in it. God bless you and everyone else in the thread. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 15, 2023 22:30:44 GMT -5
Holy f***ing shit, we always gotta get these unhinged mask off comments from people in threads like this, and this is no exception And in case it needs to be said, and it doesn't, Nia was hated because she was a sloppy worker and injured multiple people... and then she also downplayed it and mocked people online instead of apologizing or... saying nothing. If Nia could actually work a match and could cut a promo, she'd have been fine, but she couldn't... at all. And she was given every chance in the world to be something despite all that. This has nothing to do with race and the fact you brought it into this is really f***ing gross to me tbh. As a black man myself, I see racism when it happens. Im not gonna be quiet about this. But I promised I was out of the thread. And I will no longer participate in it. God bless you and everyone else in the thread. It's not racism, she was an irl asshole and she couldn't work and injured multiple other women Awesome Kong wasn't hated, Willow Nightingale might be the most popular white meat babyface going right now... Nia Jax was not hated because she was a black woman, it was never her issue. Her issue was, and always has been, that she couldn't work, and injuries completely destroyed her knees and any workrate she had left, on top of being a very shitty person irl. I honestly hate this rhetoric that any criticism towards someone, especially very justified criticism, is shot down "Because she's a Big Black Woman and it was just racism" like... no, if you're not gonna be quiet about it, then I hope you're prepared for people to vehemently disagree. I am glad you're done with the conversation supposedly because there's no way this actually improves, this is heading for a lock. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 15, 2023 23:28:41 GMT -5
I defended Nia to an extent, but between her getting way worse and more reckless post-leg injuries and and just being a more and more toxic person, at least openly, and I really can't say I have any patience left for her. Like, I think she had some potential at one point, but between never learning the discipline to control her own strength, and then coming back from injury at like 25% speed, she lost like any redeeming value she had for a brief window. Yeah, she was capable of having a decent match here and there before she tore her knees at WrestleMania (?) Yeah, like she arguably had Ronda's best ever match, like it's certainly in contention, and she had some other decent ones, too. She was also very over as a face for a bit and her action figures sold like gangbusters, though I do suspect some of that was her body type made them desirable for custom figure makers. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 15, 2023 23:36:31 GMT -5
As a black man myself, I see racism when it happens. Im not gonna be quiet about this. But I promised I was out of the thread. And I will no longer participate in it. God bless you and everyone else in the thread. It's not racism, she was an irl asshole and she couldn't work and injured multiple other women Awesome Kong wasn't hated, Willow Nightingale might be the most popular white meat babyface going right now... Nia Jax was not hated because she was a black woman, it was never her issue. Her issue was, and always has been, that she couldn't work, and injuries completely destroyed her knees and any workrate she had left, on top of being a very shitty person irl. I honestly hate this rhetoric that any criticism towards someone, especially very justified criticism, is shot down "Because she's a Big Black Woman and it was just racism" like... no, if you're not gonna be quiet about it, then I hope you're prepared for people to vehemently disagree. I am glad you're done with the conversation supposedly because there's no way this actually improves, this is heading for a lock. I don't feel comfortable entirely ruling out race as a component, since it does absolutely happen sometimes. Like, Brandi Rhodes has a way of getting under peoples' skin sometimes outside of it, of course, but racism has 1,000 percent been a big part of the absolute venom some fans have for her, like how people acted about her code switching in a promo. It happens, and not just with her. That said, I don't know about it in Nia's case. Like, if anything, it's less her race and more her family members that sometimes brought increased scrutiny to her. Like, Manu screwed up his WWE run in a big way, but if he wasn't Afa's son, he'd have gotten clowned on a whole lot less. Of course, on the flipside, Nia (and Manu) also got opportunities in large part due to that connection, so it's not like they didn't also benefit. Though, perhaps even more than that was probably Nia's size, since she is probably the biggest woman WWE has consistently ever used, being significantly taller than Chyna was and a good deal heavier. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 16, 2023 0:28:29 GMT -5
Seth Rollins ENDED Stings career and legit almost killed John Cena. Noone batted an eye. I mean Seth most certainly was hit with accusations of being unsafe for a long while between those and Finn. He's moved past it but he most definitely caught flack for it. Also a significant part of why it was so bad for Nia is that she openly didn't give a shit and was constantly joking about it. Not only was Seth hit with a lot of accusations of being unsafe, but he actually adapted what he was doing to not keep injuring people. He looked at the move he did that was injuring people and he just stopped doing it. He stopped doing the move that hurt people. It was one (1) move that hit Sting and Finn, and he didn't do it anymore. A rogue knee hit Cena and it sucked but it was the kind of accident that happens; the buckle bomb was just actually unsafe as he was doing it, and so he stopped. It's so trivial. It's so maddeningly, mind-meltingly simple as to why Seth doesn't catch heat seven years later still for working unsafe. And it's also pretty easy to see why Nia Jax, who co-workers would even complain about and who went on twitter joking about how many people she injured doesn't get that same benefit of the doubt. People wanna play the whataboutism card and throw out a ton of other people but they always vitally miss the part of it that's actually what made people angry because nuance is dead and the actual differences in any given situation don't need to be looked at if they're inconvenient. |
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Post by theironyuppie on Jul 16, 2023 1:15:02 GMT -5
I defended Nia to an extent, but between her getting way worse and more reckless post-leg injuries and and just being a more and more toxic person, at least openly, and I really can't say I have any patience left for her. Like, I think she had some potential at one point, but between never learning the discipline to control her own strength, and then coming back from injury at like 25% speed, she lost like any redeeming value she had for a brief window. Yeah, she was capable of having a decent match here and there before she tore her knees at WrestleMania (?) It was in the build to WM 35, I believe. She kept going through til Mania for Tamina's sake. And yeah, her ability to have good matches dried up after then, which makes it more notable that she and Rhea had a strong match in 2021: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXZnb5-aOFE |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 16, 2023 1:23:04 GMT -5
Yeah, she was capable of having a decent match here and there before she tore her knees at WrestleMania (?) It was in the build to WM 35, I believe. She kept going through til Mania for Tamina's sake. And yeah, her ability to have good matches dried up after then, which makes it more notable that she and Rhea had a strong match in 2021: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXZnb5-aOFEOh yeah, this was maybe her last hurrah. Like some of her tag matches with Shayna were passable, but the Rhea match is maybe the only rather solid singles match of that run. I know there's a nonzero chance Nia Jax gets into the Hall of Fame someday, and that people would (understandably) be irritated about it, but if we're talking kayfabe, it's not entirely uncalled for, between being one of the top singles stars they had at a time, plus being tag champs with Shayna as much a they were. Obviously, though, the Hall of Fame is whatever WWE feels like it is at any given time, so you get kayfabe reasoning, backstage reasoning, and over both, "who do we like this week or feel we can wring some nostalgia money out of". So, we'll see what comes of that. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 16, 2023 1:26:54 GMT -5
Can we get back on topic? Someone gets injured and potentially losing months of their career after some of the best work in his career and we’re talking about Nia Jax?
Come on now.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Jul 16, 2023 1:30:46 GMT -5
Please let dude be beautiful on crutches. He's literally the most ideal guy to be hot and in recovery.
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Post by DichEvans on Jul 16, 2023 1:36:52 GMT -5
Not going to condone any online hate, but there were a few moves in that match where Holland did not land either of Pretty Deadly flat.
I don't even get why he's doing a modified Michinoku driver or is still doing that throwing belly to belly.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jul 16, 2023 7:34:50 GMT -5
Please let dude be beautiful on crutches. He's literally the most ideal guy to be hot and in recovery. and the crutches need to be glammed out, like the prettiest crutches you've ever seen in your life. |
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jul 16, 2023 7:38:33 GMT -5
So apparently he got injured on the landing of the pounce. So not even Ridge's fault, just one of those things.
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on Jul 16, 2023 10:49:50 GMT -5
Stuff like this brings out the worst of the IWC, the disgusting trash people say when this happens is proof no one has learned anything from Hana Kimura, accidents happen, if Droz didn't blame D'Lo for what happened, no one should blame anyone for this
Twitter was a huge mistake and i really hope it closes forever soon
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Post by hbkid718 on Jul 16, 2023 13:57:30 GMT -5
Stuff like this brings out the worst of the IWC, the disgusting trash people say when this happens is proof no one has learned anything from Hana Kimura, accidents happen, if Droz didn't blame D'Lo for what happened, no one should blame anyone for this Twitter was a huge mistake and i really hope it closes forever soon That's exactly what I said. By the way, I'm sorry I opened a can of worms with my comment. |
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Post by 4real on Jul 17, 2023 2:44:56 GMT -5
Hopefully when he comes back he gets upgraded to Elton King.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jul 17, 2023 3:00:22 GMT -5
I walked in here and thought I accidentally clicked on the wrong thread and teleported to hell.
Anyways, I’m not too worried. He’ll heal up and our boys will be multiple time tag champs in no time.
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