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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Oct 24, 2023 16:58:46 GMT -5
Bumping because I watched it tonight
Not sure how I feel about it because I did like the traps and having rewatched Saw 3 last week which is mostly just gore for the sake of it (and apart from The Rack not particularly thrilling either) then this was a change at least but having Kramer come across pretty much a good guy swung too far in the opposite direction.
Like I love Tobin Bell but Jigsaw is a legit psychopath who’s answer to any slight against him (no matter how big or small) is f*** you, mutilate yourself if you want to live so let’s not try and humanise him here
At same time, Tobin Bell is all over the film which is a good thing so got that and the games were creatively vengeance fueled
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Oct 24, 2023 18:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 24, 2023 18:50:49 GMT -5
The Gigli saw bit is going to be in my nightmares for a long time.
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Oct 24, 2023 21:01:22 GMT -5
Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 24, 2023 21:01:22 GMT -5
I enjoyed the film but I hated that the evilest and most vile person in the entire series got the easiest and least painful trap (kill someone who you were going to kill anyway in a room of burning gas kinda pales in comparison to chop your own leg off and extract the marrow or get dosed with radiation to the face) and then survived at the end.
I thought she was an awful villain too. She was just so way over the top--like a cartoon characters. Which made her boring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2023 21:10:48 GMT -5
I enjoyed the film but I hated that the evilest and most vile person in the entire series got the easiest and least painful trap (kill someone who you were going to kill anyway in a room of burning gas kinda pales in comparison to chop your own leg off and extract the marrow or get dosed with radiation to the face) and then survived at the end. I thought she was an awful villain too. She was just so way over the top--like a cartoon characters. Which made her boring. Technically she does not survive. She would either pull her head out and die to the gas or she is stuck with her head in the hole and eventually dies of lack of food and dehydration. She got the worst of it because her death is going to be slow. If she had survived somewhere in Saw 2 his identity would have been public knowledge because of her.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:15:59 GMT -5
Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 24, 2023 22:15:59 GMT -5
I enjoyed the film but I hated that the evilest and most vile person in the entire series got the easiest and least painful trap (kill someone who you were going to kill anyway in a room of burning gas kinda pales in comparison to chop your own leg off and extract the marrow or get dosed with radiation to the face) and then survived at the end. I thought she was an awful villain too. She was just so way over the top--like a cartoon characters. Which made her boring. Technically she does not survive. She would either pull her head out and die to the gas or she is stuck with her head in the hole and eventually dies of lack of food and dehydration. She got the worst of it because her death is going to be slow. If she had survived somewhere in Saw 2 his identity would have been public knowledge because of her. She's likely going to appear in the sequel. And I am guessing will be killed there, but even if not--they should have made it clear that she was going to die. Either a shot of Amanda sabotaging the trap so she couldn't get out (because she did technically win, so by Jigsaw's rules, she should survive as she won her game) or Jigsaw saying something like "you broke the rules, there's no way out" rather than just leaving it vague.
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Post by Scoops on Oct 24, 2023 22:28:56 GMT -5
I saw this when it came out, it was alright. I think a lot of the positive buzz this it got was just people being happy for a Tobin Bell centric Saw movie that was also decent. I agree with the criticism I'm seeing that it's really weird that the prostitute character had the worst trap and it was also messed up how they had her be saved from a rapist just so they could put her in a trap.
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Oct 25, 2023 3:29:46 GMT -5
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Oct 25, 2023 3:29:46 GMT -5
I thought she was an awful villain too. She was just so way over the top--like a cartoon characters. Which made her boring. Same about her being too over the top. That bit where she went out her way to bring the kid in just so Jigsaw could see an innocent person die reminded me of Breaking Bad bringing in neo nazis attire end just to make Walter the better option
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Oct 25, 2023 3:37:37 GMT -5
Post by Banjo Is Broken on Oct 25, 2023 3:37:37 GMT -5
So, overall, would you recommend that I See Saw? SEE...SAW...GET IT??!!! SEE....SAW???SEE....SAW???AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Chuck Conry on Oct 25, 2023 6:03:12 GMT -5
Full on babyface jigsaw is weird.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 25, 2023 6:36:11 GMT -5
Full on babyface jigsaw is weird. Full on Babyface Detective Hoffman at the end was even weirder
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 7:48:52 GMT -5
Technically she does not survive. She would either pull her head out and die to the gas or she is stuck with her head in the hole and eventually dies of lack of food and dehydration. She got the worst of it because her death is going to be slow. If she had survived somewhere in Saw 2 his identity would have been public knowledge because of her. She's likely going to appear in the sequel. And I am guessing will be killed there, but even if not--they should have made it clear that she was going to die. Either a shot of Amanda sabotaging the trap so she couldn't get out (because she did technically win, so by Jigsaw's rules, she should survive as she won her game) or Jigsaw saying something like "you broke the rules, there's no way out" rather than just leaving it vague. I expect her to meet an end similar to Adam sans Amanda returning to finish the job and we see the remnents of her corpse to start the next movie. Although Amanda would be sort of justified this time after what happened to Gabriela.
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Post by 4real on Oct 25, 2023 12:46:38 GMT -5
Saw it Sunday night really enjoyed it. Probably my favourite Saw film since the 2nd one. I get the criticism of Jigsaw being the babyface here especially the stuff with the young kid which is very babyface ish but since he’s the big draw of the film I get it. The main villain was very hateable & the ending does set another sequel up well.
Complicated basically doing Saw films that happen in between the earlier films but there you go. Bound to be another accomplice revealed at some point. Because there’s always someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 13:20:21 GMT -5
Saw it Sunday night really enjoyed it. Probably my favourite Saw film since the 2nd one. I get the criticism of Jigsaw being the babyface here especially the stuff with the young kid which is very babyface ish but since he’s the big draw of the film I get it. The main villain was very hateable & the ending does set another sequel up well. Complicated basically doing Saw films that happen in between the earlier films but there you go. Bound to be another accomplice revealed at some point. Because there’s always someone else. Some have predicted and I can see it happening. The kid is gonna return in a post Saw 9 sequel all grown up of course and is gonna test all the remaining apprentices or those that are still trying to follow in Jigsaws legacy. Hoffman Logan Nelson Whatever his name was from Spiral And maybe tie up all the loose ends of characters we have not caught up with ...like Daniel , Corbett to help him and get their own personal revenge and closure.
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Post by Scoops on Oct 25, 2023 14:46:06 GMT -5
Full on babyface jigsaw is weird. Full on Babyface Detective Hoffman at the end was even weirder That's one of the things that I think made fans really like this one. It's not just that the gangs all here, it's that they have a worthy target and actually seem to like working together.
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