Fade
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Post by Fade on Jul 31, 2023 11:42:39 GMT -5
I genuinely believe Steveson’s ceiling, purely in terms of in ring work, is lower than where Logan Paul is right now. And that is mildly insane. Logan’s athletically phenomenal in the ring, and the match with Seth shows he’s capable of more. I kept thinking this dude was leagues below the worst tv jobber imaginable. His ceiling could be “sufficient”.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 31, 2023 11:47:45 GMT -5
If they wanted a Kurt Angle type, why did they never push Jason Jordan or Chad Gable in this same way? I have seen them both at indies, and they were/are amazing in the ring You see cause Chad is short. And by short we mean he's average height. But dammit let's make short jokes at his expense.
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Nosnorb
El Dandy
Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jul 31, 2023 12:09:47 GMT -5
If they wanted a Kurt Angle type, why did they never push Jason Jordan or Chad Gable in this same way? I have seen them both at indies, and they were/are amazing in the ring Chad Gable is an outstanding wrestler that would have broken out of the Tag Team division if he was 5 inches taller.
It looked like Jason Jordan was going to get a big solo push in 2017, but it looks like neck issues have ended his in ring career. Shame too, as his character work before his injury was really coming to boil.
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Chiral
Salacious Crumb
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Post by Chiral on Jul 31, 2023 12:42:09 GMT -5
If the US Olympic Gold Medalist's debut at the Great American Bash got that reaction from the crowd (a Texas crowd no less), got Baron Corbin massive cheers, Gable performing as he did, and it all ending in a double count out isn't a disaster, then I have no clue what a disaster in pro wrestling is.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Jul 31, 2023 12:50:03 GMT -5
IT'S DRAFT NIGHT I HOPE MY TEAM PICKS SOMEONE GOOD GOD f***ING DAMMIT
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A Little Doo Doo
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An unconventional man with unconventional methods.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jul 31, 2023 12:57:37 GMT -5
IT'S DRAFT NIGHT I HOPE MY TEAM PICKS SOMEONE GOOD GOD f***ING DAMMIT A draft pick so bad, you'd think it was made by the Detroit Pistons.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 31, 2023 13:17:34 GMT -5
One of the Youtube comments on the match video that got uploaded:
"Gable and not losing on a technicality, name a more iconic duo."
Savage.
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Post by avenger on Jul 31, 2023 13:19:21 GMT -5
The biggest difference between Angle and Steveson is that Angle was wrestling in front of crowds for fifteen months for small companies that were WWF affiliates, on WWF house shows and TV dark matches, he had over 80 matches where he could learn the trade, and when he did make his TV debut, he was told to slow the pace down, so that the crowd could groan and boo, and he could moan back at them, starting his heel turn. He didn't get the in ring stuff instantly (it took a couple of months after his TV debut), but what he did get, was the out of ring side. Talking on the mic, getting his charisma over.
This was Steveson's first match in front of a crowd, and small sections of the crowd were already backing Corbin before they even locked up. And his "punches" only made things worse.
It's almost like both sides have decided to part ways. Steveson presumably wants to do the amateur World Championship in September, and the Paris Olympics. The WWE have realised he's not going to make it. They have a TV match where he doesn't lose (so the WWE doesn't lose face), and Steveson can say that if Corbin hadn't interrupted, he was back off to freestyle. Otherwise, why not acknowledge that Damon Kemp is his brother?
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 31, 2023 13:21:13 GMT -5
If they wanted a Kurt Angle type, why did they never push Jason Jordan or Chad Gable in this same way? I have seen them both at indies, and they were/are amazing in the ring Chad Gable is an outstanding wrestler that would have broken out of the Tag Team division if he was 5 inches taller.
It looked like Jason Jordan was going to get a big solo push in 2017, but it looks like neck issues have ended his in ring career. Shame too, as his character work before his injury was really coming to boil.
I'm just glad that Chad Gable's not losing numerous matches on TV anymore, but I would like to see him win the IC title some day.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 31, 2023 13:32:43 GMT -5
If they wanted a Kurt Angle type, why did they never push Jason Jordan or Chad Gable in this same way? I have seen them both at indies, and they were/are amazing in the ring Gable never won a medal. That was probably the main factor along with the height thing mentioned. Like, in their minds, people aren’t going to be that interested in a guy who came out of London 2012 with nothing.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 31, 2023 13:33:32 GMT -5
If they wanted a Kurt Angle type, why did they never push Jason Jordan or Chad Gable in this same way? I have seen them both at indies, and they were/are amazing in the ring Chad Gable is an outstanding wrestler that would have broken out of the Tag Team division if he was 5 inches taller.
Or wasn't in the WWE... Or they ran with one of the multiple times the crowd got behind him.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Jul 31, 2023 13:36:38 GMT -5
IT'S DRAFT NIGHT I HOPE MY TEAM PICKS SOMEONE GOOD GOD f***ING DAMMIT A draft pick so bad, you'd think it was made by the Detroit Pistons. I put Gable Steveson in the all time bad 2000 draft class in Basketball GM on my save that's been going since the 50s and we're in 94 right now. The Dawn Of The Final Day vibes get stronger every year.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 31, 2023 13:46:25 GMT -5
So I watched it live and it was rough. You know that phrase “sunlight is the best disinfectant” well I’ve watched it again in beautiful natural light and it’s not ready Jerry.
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Jonathan Michaels
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Archduke of Levity
Here since TNA was still kinda okay
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 31, 2023 13:52:51 GMT -5
Somewhere, while on his vacation, Miz just felt a chill go down his spine.
They’re gonna make him try and get Steveson over, aren’t they?
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ASYLUMHAUSEN
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Jul 31, 2023 13:55:47 GMT -5
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 31, 2023 14:01:11 GMT -5
If he can’t handle a wrestling crowd booing then he might as well pack it up now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 14:05:54 GMT -5
Just gonna quote from the comment section on that article "An article as bad as Stevesons debut"
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Allie Kitsune
Crow T. Robot
Always Feelin' Foxy.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 31, 2023 14:06:10 GMT -5
If he can’t handle a wrestling crowd booing then he might as well pack it up now. Steveson wasn't the one who said it. That was all on the article writer. That said, it doesn't matter, I don't want to be seen as defending him, f*** him.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Jul 31, 2023 14:08:04 GMT -5
"Is it because he's not performing like a 20 year veteran" "Sure he had some rough patches"
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Jul 31, 2023 14:09:01 GMT -5
Dude didn't look like a 20 minute veteran is my issue
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