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Post by darbus alan on Aug 12, 2023 13:18:15 GMT -5
Not quite "Top Dolla's Tope Fail" bad, but still a pretty big oof.
I know Kross isn't exactly the next coming of Bret Hart, but he used to be better than that in the ring, right? Has he always been that bad or is it just zero chemistry with AJ Styles?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 12, 2023 14:00:01 GMT -5
That had a more contrived setup than whatever it was Sasha attempted in her NJPW debut.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 12, 2023 14:29:09 GMT -5
HHH's fascination with this dude is amazing. He has to know that dude kind of sucks, no matter how cool he thinks that he looks or whatever it is that he sees in him. Look, I'm not into babyface AJ, but I'm not going to say he sucks. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 12, 2023 14:39:45 GMT -5
Not quite "Top Dolla's Tope Fail" bad, but still a pretty big oof. I know Kross isn't exactly the next coming of Bret Hart, but he used to be better than that in the ring, right? Has he always been that bad or is it just zero chemistry with AJ Styles? The dude makes a great goon, but as a solo act he ain't it. He did look better in the ring before he joined WWE, and he also had a much better and more intimidating look too with a leaner frame and a shaved head. |
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Post by Totorob101 on Aug 12, 2023 15:27:13 GMT -5
I have a feeling Karrion would be better in a tag team then solo,he has talent and a good look but it's not clicking for him. Try him out as a baby face because he does come across very likeable in real life perhaps that would do better for him.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 12, 2023 16:50:04 GMT -5
I usually don't get too down on people for botches, but I hope that's the end of this feud. They don't really have any chemistry together. I remember thinking that if AJ and Kevin Owens a couple years ago that I hope they never face again. |
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Post by Fade on Aug 12, 2023 17:24:13 GMT -5
Not quite "Top Dolla's Tope Fail" bad, but still a pretty big oof. I know Kross isn't exactly the next coming of Bret Hart, but he used to be better than that in the ring, right? Has he always been that bad or is it just zero chemistry with AJ Styles? That’s gotta be the ugliest thing on main roster tv since flop Dolla proved he could fly. Kross sux man. Dudes a bland hoss out of the mid 2000s. The act sucks, he sucks. I would start enjoying him if he does his Jesse Ventura impersonation all the time. |
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Post by XIII on Aug 12, 2023 19:27:37 GMT -5
I don’t even like Bray Wyatt but if he comes back and Kross and Uncle Howdy are his flunkies I’ll watch his segments religiously because they will be hilarious. That’s about all I want to see Kross do. 😂
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 12, 2023 19:48:01 GMT -5
Honestly, not all of this is on Kross.
Yeah, I know AJ's been doing the moonsault into reverse DDT for years, but it's almost always been on a springboard, not from the top rope. It also is on AJ as the veteran for not just calling an audible and leaving it at a moonsault when Kross fell. That's plenty, leave it be and try it another night.
In general, it's rarely a good move to keep trying to force a spot that failed. Cutting your losses is wiser.
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 12, 2023 19:56:30 GMT -5
I don’t even like Bray Wyatt but if he comes back and Kross and Uncle Howdy are his flunkies I’ll watch his segments religiously because they will be hilarious. That’s about all I want to see Kross do. 😂 Add Austin Theory into the group as the Bitch, Idiot and Manchild of the group and the segments would be gold. |
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 12, 2023 20:15:40 GMT -5
I think the Damian Priest role in a stable like Judgment Day would be the perfect spot for Kross.
Scarlett, of course, should win both Women's Titles.
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Post by tenshi on Aug 12, 2023 21:01:58 GMT -5
I don’t mind Kross and wouldn’t mind WWE reintroducing a Euro/TV third tier title to give him and others low on the card something to do but he has no business feuding with AJ. See, if Raw Underground stuck around as an offshoot/"land of misfit toys" thing, Kross would've worked there. "Karrion Kross, King of the Underworld" or whatever, keeping things short and it'd fit his power/pseudo MMA style. |
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Post by tenshi on Aug 12, 2023 21:04:03 GMT -5
I think the Damian Priest role in a stable like Judgment Day would be the perfect spot for Kross. Scarlett, of course, should win both Women's Titles. Rhea vs Scarlett in Rhea's dungeon, you say? |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 13, 2023 4:15:36 GMT -5
my eyes glaze over whenever these two do anything anywhere near each other
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 13, 2023 4:28:22 GMT -5
my eyes glaze over whenever these two do anything anywhere near each other AJ Styles might be the best wrestler who absolutely cannot do anything interesting if he lacks chemistry with his opponent. |
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 13, 2023 5:21:49 GMT -5
The only way to save Kross as an employee at this point is to completely change the gimmick. The people have spoken and literally nobody cares about this character as it stands right now. The boys in the back like him and he’s apparently an entertaining guy, so maybe that’s the direction he goes for his survival. Otherwise I guess he just remains on the roster as a hoss jobber or you let him go.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Aug 13, 2023 5:57:38 GMT -5
PUT. HIM. IN. A. STABLE.
Let him be the heavy. It's the ONE THING he's consistently been good at over the years.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 13, 2023 14:56:58 GMT -5
my eyes glaze over whenever these two do anything anywhere near each other AJ Styles might be the best wrestler who absolutely cannot do anything interesting if he lacks chemistry with his opponent. definitely |
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Aug 13, 2023 15:01:23 GMT -5
AJ Styles might be the best wrestler who absolutely cannot do anything interesting if he lacks chemistry with his opponent. definitely Charlotte's gotta be up there too. |
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 13, 2023 20:51:12 GMT -5
Honestly, not all of this is on Kross. Yeah, I know AJ's been doing the moonsault into reverse DDT for years, but it's almost always been on a springboard, not from the top rope. It also is on AJ as the veteran for not just calling an audible and leaving it at a moonsault when Kross fell. That's plenty, leave it be and try it another night. In general, it's rarely a good move to keep trying to force a spot that failed. Cutting your losses is wiser. On the one hand, this is valid. On the other hand, AJ's been doing this spot from the springboard and corner interchangeably for pretty much his whole career. Like, if AJ's hitting a springboard moonsault on you, and you're not on the ground, you should just assume he's going for the DDT. It's like, if you're wrestling Bret Hart, and he grabs your legs, it doesn't matter if you're standing or on the ground. Nine times out of ten, he's going for the Sharpshooter. |
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