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Post by Hurbster on Apr 11, 2024 8:28:12 GMT -5
Liking it so far,
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Post by uewfigfed on Apr 11, 2024 8:47:14 GMT -5
I like how Lucy states her character build off rip (Science, Speech, Repair) and the ghoul is a walking VATS mode lol
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Apr 11, 2024 11:05:03 GMT -5
I won't be able to watch until Friday but all the stuff I'm hearing about what they did to New Vegas makes me weary on if this will be any good. Like the amount of time I've sunk into New Vegas is staggering and my love for it runs deep. So to hear that Todd and the show basically nuke it out of continuity is just a gut punch and makes me feel things. You won’t be happy AT ALL, but I do think it’s cause they wanna present New Vegas Bethesda style instead. Which, while corny, is the kind of petty that’s making the world turn right now lol Well here's hoping the show is good enough that I can ignore the lil nerd in my head screaming about lore and continuity inconsistencies
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 11, 2024 11:25:39 GMT -5
I'll just have to repeat to myself that the lore is whatever Bethesda want it to be.
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Post by schma on Apr 11, 2024 11:34:53 GMT -5
I'm enjoying it so far. It's been years since I played New Vegas or any entry for that matter. For the moment I'm just enjoying it for what it is, a story in a world I deeply enjoy. I've completed 2 episodes.
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Post by schma on Apr 13, 2024 6:39:13 GMT -5
Just finished it. Not entirely what I expected but a decent enough adaptation. I felt the gore was occasionally gratuitous. Otherwise, I'm left wanting to play some Fallout. It has been long enough though that I don't really remember what lore it may have trampled on.
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 13, 2024 22:46:40 GMT -5
Finished watching it, it was great. A very well done adaption.
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Post by ace on Apr 15, 2024 12:21:46 GMT -5
One of those things that only annoys me…but if Cooper knows the design flaw in the armor why is he shooting Maximus in the head when they fight in episode 2?
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Post by uewfigfed on Apr 15, 2024 13:33:56 GMT -5
One of those things that only annoys me…but if Cooper knows the design flaw in the armor why is he shooting Maximus in the head when they fight in episode 2? Shits and giggles?? Coops a weird Ghoul. Chances of Thaddeus turning into a super mutant in s2??
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Post by schma on Apr 15, 2024 20:57:29 GMT -5
One of those things that only annoys me…but if Cooper knows the design flaw in the armor why is he shooting Maximus in the head when they fight in episode 2? My guess is there's some degree of respect for those who wear the armour. He's a bastard but he knows that the Brotherhood of Steel have a code, whether he agrees with it or not.
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Post by ace on Apr 15, 2024 21:05:31 GMT -5
One of those things that only annoys me…but if Cooper knows the design flaw in the armor why is he shooting Maximus in the head when they fight in episode 2? My guess is there's some degree of respect for those who wear the armour. He's a bastard but he knows that the Brotherhood of Steel have a code, whether he agrees with it or not. He exploited the flaw repeatedly in the finale. Shooting first and giving zero fs
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Post by schma on Apr 15, 2024 21:10:38 GMT -5
My guess is there's some degree of respect for those who wear the armour. He's a bastard but he knows that the Brotherhood of Steel have a code, whether he agrees with it or not. He exploited the flaw repeatedly in the finale. Shooting first and giving zero fs That's fair, I suspect then it may be that in episode 2 he could tell the knight was inexperienced, he even speaks about it. So he just didn't take him seriously and was really only concerned about those out for his blood, whereas as far as he could tell, this knight was just protecting a pretty lady? I don't have the answer, but it seems he was absolutely brutal with the people of the town yet he let the vault dweller and the novice knight off easy considering. It could just be that they didn't pose a serious enough threat to his mission.
In the finale he had a specific goal in his mind and they were definitely in the way and experienced Brotherhood members so he didn't pull punches.
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Apr 16, 2024 0:28:12 GMT -5
One of those things that only annoys me…but if Cooper knows the design flaw in the armor why is he shooting Maximus in the head when they fight in episode 2? Because you saw in the flashback the design flaw was in the OG T45 armor he wore back in Anchorage. Then in ep 8 when Coop fights the BoS he says he wonders if the T60s have the same design flaw before proving they in fact did. Or that's at least how I interpreted it
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 16, 2024 14:39:12 GMT -5
I thought it had a good start, okay-ish middle and an AMAZING finale. All over the place but overall looking forward to where they take it. Also (ending spoilers) {Spoiler}Was that New Vegas shown at the end?
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 16, 2024 15:50:06 GMT -5
I thought it had a good start, okay-ish middle and an AMAZING finale. All over the place but overall looking forward to where they take it. Also (ending spoilers) {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Was that New Vegas shown at the end? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Yup, although the end credits, while stylised do seem to show one of the possible bad endings to NV.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 17, 2024 15:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Apr 17, 2024 21:18:36 GMT -5
You know what my issue is with this and the New Vegas canon? It's that New Vegas doesn't have a canonical ending like the other Fallout games(minus 4 but it seems the canon is BoS end). Sure in the others some events may be different from other playthroughs but the end is always the same. In one you stop the master, in 2 you destroy the enclave, in 3 you destroy the enclave etc. So the issue the show will run into is now making one of NV endings the official ending which will just make fans of the 3 non canon endings upset for investing time into those endings. In conclusion America is a huge ass country and bethesda could have set this story anywhere else and not had to deal with fan boy rage. Especially since Bethesda wants their post apocalypse world to stay post apocalypse even though the west for the most part has rebuilt and has functioning societies
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Apr 18, 2024 5:17:01 GMT -5
So I really enjoyed the show and it has left me wanting to give the games a try again, I never got past the first couple of hours of 3 or 4 and haven't tried any others.
Which game is generally accepted as the best one while still holding up today?
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Apr 18, 2024 7:08:55 GMT -5
You know what my issue is with this and the New Vegas canon? It's that New Vegas doesn't have a canonical ending like the other Fallout games(minus 4 but it seems the canon is BoS end). Sure in the others some events may be different from other playthroughs but the end is always the same. In one you stop the master, in 2 you destroy the enclave, in 3 you destroy the enclave etc. So the issue the show will run into is now making one of NV endings the official ending which will just make fans of the 3 non canon endings upset for investing time into those endings. In conclusion America is a huge ass country and bethesda could have set this story anywhere else and not had to deal with fan boy rage. Especially since Bethesda wants their post apocalypse world to stay post apocalypse even though the west for the most part has rebuilt and has functioning societies I mean the sane option of the New Vegas endings would be House winning, also it makes the most sense story wise and his character is far more interesting to keep around than anyone else in the game. Yes Man + Courier is for the player who just wants to win and doesn't make a lick of sense. Caesar's Legion winning would be poor story telling as they are glorified raiders, (It would be like the Master or Enclave winning) NCR winning feels like it could work but also a bit soft for Fallout, also I like the idea of them being spread to thin across the Mojave. The other factions are kind of irrelevant or too few to really matter, possibly the Great Khans control the wider area in places beyond Nevada
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Apr 18, 2024 8:02:36 GMT -5
So I really enjoyed the show and it has left me wanting to give the games a try again, I never got past the first couple of hours of 3 or 4 and haven't tried any others. Which game is generally accepted as the best one while still holding up today? Honestly it depends on your tastes. Like FO1&2 being isometric and more hardcore 90s pc rpgs can put people off but there is a lot to love in them if you don't mind an old game that will definitely feel old. FO1 is more akin to wasteland in that its not as fun in a ha ha sense like FO2, 2 is where they really go for more comedy beats that the franchise would be later known for.
FO3&4 are standard Bethesda fare, meaning the main story isn't the selling point the selling point is in the player making their own story through exploration and side quests. I'll be transparent in that I don't like FO4 and how they really dumbed down the rpg elements but if that isn't an issue then its a good game that plenty of people enjoy.
FONV was and still is a very buggy game but in my biased opinion its the best of the 3D fallout games. Takes the writing and lore of the first 2 games and combines it with the game play of 3 to make a quintessential 2010s action rpg. Ive been playing it since launch back in 2010 and 14 years later I still go back at least once a year for another playthrough. If you can get past the bugs and crashes this is the one most modern fans would recommend.
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