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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 11, 2023 22:09:23 GMT -5
The playbook when someone is coming to WWE is usually complete silence. Folks in upper management getting this word out more sounds like them making sure everyone knows that he's not coming in to avoid the expectation. Look at Kairi for example. It's basically an open secret that she's coming back to WWE, but I don't think she's said anything specific about that. At least not naming WWE specifically as her destination. Pillman Jr never said anything until he was specifically shown on the NXT vignette yesterday. Compare and contrast to Punk who seemed to be using his media buddies to make stories that he's about to be re-signed, thus coercing WWE into actually doing it?
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Post by Chiral on Oct 11, 2023 22:24:48 GMT -5
Yeah as of rn this feels like another "Punk Camp™ throws a bunch at the sheetz trying to make something reality" situation.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 11, 2023 22:44:44 GMT -5
Yeah as of rn this feels like another "Punk Camp™ throws a bunch at the sheetz trying to make something reality" situation. You are saying Hausman isnt a reliable source?
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Oct 11, 2023 23:07:22 GMT -5
You know, all the "hints" being dropped have kind of made me realize how many of Punk's most notable promos just involve him quoting or referencing someone else.
"The Farmer and the Viper", "The greatest lie the devil ever told", "your arms are just too short to box with God", even the "One Bill Phil" thing from his AEW return promo after Brawl Out are all taken from other sources.
(I could say the same about a lot of his t-shirts, but lots of wrestlers have merch logos that are just blatant rip-offs of more famous logos, so I'm not gonna pretend like he's unique in that regard.)
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Post by chazraps on Oct 12, 2023 0:06:02 GMT -5
You know, all the "hints" being dropped have kind of made me realize how many of Punk's most notable promos just involve him quoting or referencing someone else. "The Farmer and the Viper", "The greatest lie the devil ever told", "your arms are just too short to box with God", even the "One Bill Phil" thing from his AEW return promo after Brawl Out are all taken from other sources. (I could say the same about a lot of his t-shirts, but lots of wrestlers have merch logos that are just blatant rip-offs of more famous logos, so I'm not gonna pretend like he's unique in that regard.) CM Punk has become his generation's Al Snow.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Oct 12, 2023 4:17:29 GMT -5
Man, how did One Bill Phil turn into No Deal, Phil?
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Oct 12, 2023 4:44:43 GMT -5
Man, how did One Bill Phil turn into No Deal, Phil? Dude just has to look in the mirror to get the answer to that question.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 12, 2023 7:51:46 GMT -5
This all reminds me again of my own mental checklist about pro wrestling reporting. And indeed, a lot of reporting.
1 - who stands to gain the most from the rumours? 2 - who stands to lose the most? 3 - is it the mysterious and nebulous Sources Say (tm) or someone actually being quoted? 4 - who's reporting it?
Punk's enablers getting the good word out early in hopes of controlling the narrative are treading a very old, worn path by now.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 12, 2023 8:25:30 GMT -5
The playbook when someone is coming to WWE is usually complete silence. Folks in upper management getting this word out more sounds like them making sure everyone knows that he's not coming in to avoid the expectation. They got the word out a few weeks before Mania that the talks with Cody had “fizzled” however when that was most definitely not the case.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 12, 2023 8:29:36 GMT -5
Are they teases though or are people just reading too much into things? Yeah, the only comment I've even actually seen from him was just a Usual Suspects reference. It's not like Punk coined the phrase, so I don't even know if there's an 'all' that's really teasing anything versus one stray comment on a day when people were fishing for something to listen for. The Usual Suspects line was dropped by Graves, when it didn’t really even fit what they were talking about, imo. Seth made the “Best in the World” comment. Michael Cole called Seth a puppet master and a manipulator during their in-ring interview, which were apparently terms Punk used in his ROH pipe bomb. And then the obvious GTS by Shinsuke on Raw.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Oct 12, 2023 8:34:46 GMT -5
Yeah as of rn this feels like another "Punk Camp™ throws a bunch at the sheetz trying to make something reality" situation. You are saying Hausman isnt a reliable source? he's a reliable source for: what time punk wakes up. what punk has for breakfast. what time punk takes ace for walkies. how many fights punk gets into because of ace biting random people they pass by on said walkies. how many cans of pepsi punk had that day. what time punk goes to sleep.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 12, 2023 9:03:00 GMT -5
The playbook when someone is coming to WWE is usually complete silence. Folks in upper management getting this word out more sounds like them making sure everyone knows that he's not coming in to avoid the expectation. They got the word out a few weeks before Mania that the talks with Cody had “fizzled” however when that was most definitely not the case. I am not sure fizzled is the right word. I know Meltzer said in mid-February of 2022 that Cody and WWE's negotiations hit a snag (his word) but they were able to figure that out in a few weeks and then planned for his Mania debut. I'm pretty sure Cody even said somewhere that the negotiation wasn't a quick thing either so I believe that.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 12, 2023 9:31:26 GMT -5
He comes back bald and in a suit as Dr. Phil.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 12, 2023 9:39:55 GMT -5
They got the word out a few weeks before Mania that the talks with Cody had “fizzled” however when that was most definitely not the case. I am not sure fizzled is the right word. I know Meltzer said in mid-February of 2022 that Cody and WWE's negotiations hit a snag (his word) but they were able to figure that out in a few weeks and then planned for his Mania debut. I'm pretty sure Cody even said somewhere that the negotiation wasn't a quick thing either so I believe that. The fizzled out reports came in early March, when he was likely already signed. Also, just checked and Meltzer was talking about it hitting a snag in early to mid March.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 12, 2023 9:42:30 GMT -5
"While Punk and WWE are currently not in talks for the former multiple time World Champion to come back to the company, a source close to the Best In The World said that things are increasingly cordial between the two sides. It was noted that Punk and Paul 'Triple H' Levesque met each other with a firm handshake and a hug that neutral witnesses described as 'manly' during Punk's surprise appearance at a WWE Raw event in Chicago earlier in the year. Punk also gave several WWE wrestlers gift cards to Mindy's Muffins." - Haus of Wrestling probably "Bret Hart once met CM Punk and Hart had tears in his eyes..."
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Post by salz4life on Oct 12, 2023 11:27:44 GMT -5
While I think it would be cool to see Punk show up at Survivor Series... WWE doesn't need the problems he will seemingly bring.
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Post by Corre.222 on Oct 12, 2023 11:28:10 GMT -5
I'm convinced "Oi Oi Oi" is the new YES YES YES
Larger Hornswoggle's got this
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Post by champviadq on Oct 12, 2023 12:17:23 GMT -5
Yeah as of rn this feels like another "Punk Camp™ throws a bunch at the sheetz trying to make something reality" situation. But, Super-duper Davey Boy Meltz said so! He knows all! $12.99 please.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 12, 2023 15:15:49 GMT -5
CM Punk always reminds me of a quote from Blade: "Some motherf***ers are always trying to ice skate uphill"
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 12, 2023 16:32:49 GMT -5
They got the word out a few weeks before Mania that the talks with Cody had “fizzled” however when that was most definitely not the case. I am not sure fizzled is the right word. I know Meltzer said in mid-February of 2022 that Cody and WWE's negotiations hit a snag (his word) but they were able to figure that out in a few weeks and then planned for his Mania debut. I'm pretty sure Cody even said somewhere that the negotiation wasn't a quick thing either so I believe that. I’m also pretty sure Cody has mentioned that things nearly fell apart at one point.
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