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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Oct 6, 2023 16:01:53 GMT -5
You wonder if he’s spiteful enough to “MAKE AEW PAY” or whatever his mindset would be coming in.
But in most realities, he immediately beefs with Seth or the first person who looks at him wrong, then it’s Punk vs the locker room, we get the WWE board version of the muffin thread, then he tries again in Impact and we repeat the cycle once again.
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Post by chrom on Oct 6, 2023 16:07:28 GMT -5
You wonder if he’s spiteful enough to “MAKE AEW PAY” or whatever his mindset would be coming in. But in most realities, he immediately beefs with Seth or the first person who looks at him wrong, then it’s Punk vs the locker room, we get the WWE board version of the muffin thread, then he tries again in Impact and we repeat the cycle once again. Until eventually his choices left are MLW or The NWA.
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Post by tenshi on Oct 6, 2023 16:17:54 GMT -5
If this actually happens then everything he said in AEW is going to age like milk lol Happens to everyone who goes from AEW to WWE and the same to those who go from WWE to AEW. Punk shouldn't have been a bitch and said that shit. He was way worse than Cody was. All the Punk fans being happy and trying to defend his AEW shit are suddenly gonna try to justify him returning to WWE lol. Ah... The "CM Punk got himself fired because he was tired of working with immature children/WWE will know how to work with him because they'll respect him" defense...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 16:20:16 GMT -5
Funny thing is apparently he really enjoyed his time at Impact...atleast backstage but they would have even less in ways to try and reign him in if he went all muffin man again.
And that is the risk now any company takes if they want him...there is nothing to placate him.
TK made him the centre piece of his company , put the title on him , basically gave him his own show and hired his bite man back albeit remotely but still and put things in a contract to try and reign any of that from happening again and yet he still reached a point where he had no choice but to fire him.
Said it already but there is nothing stopping the muffin man if he wants to rampage and WWE will have no one to blame but themselves if they bring him back because you clearly know the risk with a man who will fly off the handle if you bring him water without ice freshly shipped in from the arctic.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 6, 2023 16:20:54 GMT -5
I feel like every time it feels like the Punk Thread Era is over... he just misses us so much that he HAS to get another one going again lmfao
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Post by markymark on Oct 6, 2023 16:22:32 GMT -5
Hopefully its not a redundant mess lol
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Post by HIM on Oct 6, 2023 16:34:21 GMT -5
Happens to everyone who goes from AEW to WWE and the same to those who go from WWE to AEW. Punk shouldn't have been a bitch and said that shit. He was way worse than Cody was. All the Punk fans being happy and trying to defend his AEW shit are suddenly gonna try to justify him returning to WWE lol. Ah... The "CM Punk got himself fired because he was tired of working with immature children/WWE will know how to work with him because they'll respect him" defense... I can see it now. "Don't worry guys, Paul Levesque respects him now and Phil will get everything he wants. He doesn't need to push anyone around because he knows how their working conditions are. There's no way that it'll be bad for him here, he's a legend."
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Post by Facetious on Oct 6, 2023 16:45:01 GMT -5
CM Punk is the talk of the town once again, as virtually every outlet has reported what they've heard regarding he and WWE.
Roll call. We're here.
WWE feels confident that CM Punk would come to WWE.
CM Punk’s termination from AEW led to questions about his future, including the possibility of a return to WWE. We’ve learned of what some within WWE think. WWE higher ups fully believe that CM Punk would sign with the company if they had interest. In the past year, we’ve heard that Punk had been open to the idea. But WWE sources think the ball is in their court.
As of two weeks ago, nobody within WWE had indicated that CM Punk and the company had talks. In late September, we were told that it appeared there were feelers out between Punk to WWE to see if there was any interest there. One WWE employee as of last month advised someone close to Punk that talking to Vince McMahon directly would have been the best courses of action to secure a return to the company. In the past, we're told Vince McMahon was adamant to Fox that he wasn't interested in bringing Punk back, though Fox had been pushing for it before he went to AEW.
Multiple sources we spoke to near Punk believe would in fact sign with WWE.
There is still a ton of heat on CM Punk in WWE, with plenty of it stemming from his last run almost ten years ago. Sources familiar with the situation believe that many of them would be consulted in the event Punk would return to WWE, as to prevent anything similar to what happened multiple times in All Elite Wrestling.
One top star said that Punk knows "he wouldn't be able to pull any of his shit here. There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him." When we brought up that WWE would likely want to talk to top talent about Punk coming in, that same person said the talk really needed to be with Punk. Another top talent said that they believe Triple H wouldn't risk the negativity that Punk would bring, but then did recall that it wouldn't be the first time that he's brought someone in with baggage since being in control. The general feeling we got was that Punk would need to make good with a number of influential talent in general.
Within AEW, one top star said that before Brawl Out happened, Punk would still verbalize how much he didn't like WWE, Triple H and Vince McMahon, and would be surprised if he went back there. Another that now he's in a "much less forgiving situation from a career perspective."
We've spoken to several top stars within WWE, and a number of names in creative. To be clear, thus far nobody has been told anything on the talent or creative end about Punk coming back to WWE. When we asked about the teases that pick up steam on social media, we were told adamantly that those were not meant to tease a CM Punk return, though it's not impossible they could be played off of in the future to generate buzz. We spoke to various people in the know regarding future plans, and almost nobody has been clued in on a potential Punk return.
Sources that are close with Punk have been open about his interest in returning to WWE, with one outright saying that if there was WWE interest, he would go back to the company. There is a very big elephant in the room in that both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns have verbalized in the past that they aren't fond of Punk. Most people on both sides believe there would need to be fences mended there in order to make a successful return happen.
One WWE source was steadfast in their belief that when Punk appeared at WWE Raw backstage earlier this year, he was looking to get his job back. Based on how that experience went, they aren't of the belief it's in the cards. Others we spoke to thought him appearing there was more to create allies, as there had already been some bumps in the road towards his eventual AEW return.
Another discussion has been about the workload. Punk took great pride in being at work every week within AEW, and his salary was above what a lot of stars high up on the WWE card are making to work full-time as well. WWE sources we spoke to felt like Punk's leverage isn't what it was four months, 14 months or three years ago as a result, and that could play a big factor in negotiations regarding schedule and pay if he does come back.
In case you wondered, it seems like the IMPACT locker room would be in favor of him appearing there, as he made a good impression visiting backstage months ago. That's highly unlikely, but still an option.
We reached out to CM Punk and did not hear back.
The TL:DR -- nobody in WWE has been told that a return is happening, and most top talent are opposed to it. However, they don't feel it's an impossibility, and both those close to Punk and WWE believe Punk would do it, but there are fences to mend.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 6, 2023 16:48:03 GMT -5
"One top star said that Punk knows "he wouldn't be able to pull any of his shit here. There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him.""
"He attacked people who can't control him but he'll be on his best behavior here" is something you say about a rowdy cat, not a man.
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Post by HIM on Oct 6, 2023 16:52:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry but that IMPACT shit is hilarious.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 6, 2023 16:55:51 GMT -5
"One top star said that Punk knows "he wouldn't be able to pull any of his shit here. There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him."" "He attacked people who can't control him but he'll be on his best behavior here" is something you say about a rowdy cat, not a man. So basically, dude just needs a belly rub and a scratching post. (Was it Punk that Rock was calling “Cookie Puss” that one time or was it Cena? Might be a weird full circle thing with the cat analogy)
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Post by Chiral on Oct 6, 2023 16:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 6, 2023 18:07:33 GMT -5
Strong "JBL in 2001" energy here:
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Post by Chiral on Oct 6, 2023 18:15:13 GMT -5
IDK why but the "There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him." reminds me of the "you could get shot in the streets if you call someone a jobber" post.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 6, 2023 18:24:59 GMT -5
IDK why but the "There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him." reminds me of the "you could get shot in the streets if you call someone a jobber" post. It's such baffling tough guy weirdness that it makes me wonder who the source is. Like when people say "Punk will behave in WWE because he'll take it seriously/the people running it won't tolerate his shit", that makes sense and is grounded in an idea. "Unlike in puny AEW, we're all tough manly men who can beat him in a fight so he won't try to punch us" is neither of those things.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 6, 2023 18:28:04 GMT -5
IDK why but the "There's nobody here he could jump without getting his ass handed to him." reminds me of the "you could get shot in the streets if you call someone a jobber" post. It's such baffling tough guy weirdness that it makes me wonder who the source is. Like when people say "Punk will behave in WWE because he'll take it seriously/the people running it won't tolerate his shit", that makes sense and is grounded in an idea. "Unlike in puny AEW, we're all tough manly men who can beat him in a fight so he won't try to punch us" is neither of those things. I don’t get why Indi Hartwell wants to fight Punk on behalf of the locker room so bad. She’s making things worse.
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Post by Error on Oct 6, 2023 18:39:03 GMT -5
That bit about Hunter not hiring him is hilarious since you know he'd just call Vince at 3am and have a deal worked out by 4? Hunter be damned.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Oct 6, 2023 18:45:02 GMT -5
There's no real upside from WWE's point of view. They are doing fine money-wise and any ratings problems are external and no wrestler can fix them (MNF etc). I struggle to even think of "Dream Matches" which was a selling point of him in AEW. I mean Punk v AJ Styles would be a great match but do I really need it? Not really after all the dream matches AJ has already had in WWE.
The potential downsides are an effect on backstage morale which has generally been good for the past couple of years but is fragile as rumors of discontent over Bloodline overrun spoiling the TV/PLE time of others and Vince popping in once every few months to "help" with the booking show.
Punk himself is going to react badly when he finds out there's going to be no special show for him, his backstage ideas are ignored, HHH isn't going to chant his name, he will be kept away from the title picture (too risky for him to melt down or get injured in the middle of a title program). He may even have to job to guys he feels aren't on his level or do storylines he finds dumb. It will really give him the epiphany of how good he had it in AEW and how that is almost certainly never coming back.
I can believe it, there are obvious efforts to turn NXT from developmental into a competitive third brand so a lot of free agent talent with experience will be signed in the coming months. Whilst I doubt they are best buds Punk and Dana White have a prior relationship and I don't think there's the bad blood there he has with people on the wrestling side and like it or not if they are attempting to create a crossover appeal with the two Endeavor fanbases White will be consulted about hiring.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 6, 2023 19:31:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate that macho "everyone here would beat his ass" nonsense. It's stupid on many levels but mainly because backstage fights aren't usually minute long affairs. They're typically the first dude gets a shot in and then it gets broken apart.
I do wonder how much of this is genuine interest and how much is just one side trying to make himself relevant and talked about again. The Fightful article doesn't sound as positive about Punk going to WWE as Hausman's story (what a surprise)
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Post by markymark on Oct 6, 2023 20:49:07 GMT -5
Feels like they same thing they did for Codys debut last year.
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