9/15/23 Rampage Spoilers

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

- The Lucha Bros & Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, The Butcher and The Blade.

- The Kingdom defeated Christopher Daniels & Matt Sydal.

- AEW Trios Champions The Acclaimed & Billy Gunn defeated Peter Avalon & The Outrunners. Dark Order came out and challenged them to a title bout. They went back and forth. It ended with Anthony Bowens agreeing to face one of them on Collision this Saturday.

- Aussie Open defeated Lord Crewe and Damian Chambers.

- Kris Statlander defeated Jade Cargill to retain the TBS Title. They showed respect for each other after the match. This match received a lot of love from the live crowd. 

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Thank god Statlander won, I was worried about that more than anything about the backlash it'd receive lol

So Jade's moving on, seemingly into a face role, and Statlander's reign is now completely validated, all I ca say is GOOD, maybe the best women's division booking this year outside of Shida winning at Dynamite 200.

[mrbananagrabber]

Can’t believe they threw the Jade rematch away so quickly.

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Sept 13, 2023 22:31:37 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Can’t believe they threw the Jade rematch away so quickly.

I'm really ok with it. It reads like they wanted to tie up a loose end, give Statlander a big time win, and move Jade on to new things

They didn't throw anything away, the reports said it was a great match and the crowd loved it. Sometimes you gotta put big stuff on Rampage for it to matter.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

thank god and this lets jade get some character work with some interesting feuds

i really thought she was gonna win

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 13, 2023 22:28:38 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

- AEW Trios Champions The Acclaimed & Billy Gunn defeated Peter Avalon & The Outrunners. Dark Order came out and challenged them to a title bout. They went back and forth. It ended with Anthony Bowens agreeing to face one of them on Collision this Saturday.

I'm curious if we start to see any movement on Dark Order recruitment or new members here. I would assume they aren't winning here but I'm curious given they're going back to their roots if they start getting more people involved.

[mrbananagrabber]

Sept 13, 2023 22:32:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:31:37 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Can’t believe they threw the Jade rematch away so quickly.

I'm really ok with it. It reads like they wanted to tie up a loose end, give Statlander a big time win, and move Jade on to new things

They didn't throw anything away, the reports said it was a great match and the crowd loved it. Sometimes you gotta put big stuff on Rampage for it to matter.

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

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Sept 13, 2023 22:34:12 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:32:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm really ok with it. It reads like they wanted to tie up a loose end, give Statlander a big time win, and move Jade on to new things

They didn't throw anything away, the reports said it was a great match and the crowd loved it. Sometimes you gotta put big stuff on Rampage for it to matter.

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

This is the first time we can say Jade got BEAT beat though, no excuses, just a big time win for Statlander

Again, it's not a waste imo. Statlander and Jade can not move on to different feuds without that being a hanging specter, which it would have been if Jade had just come back and done something else first

Also Jade losing is nice, showing she isn't some undefeated monster anymore is smart. Won't damage her aura at all and will make her matches more unpredictable

[Facetious]

Sept 13, 2023 22:34:12 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:32:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm really ok with it. It reads like they wanted to tie up a loose end, give Statlander a big time win, and move Jade on to new things

They didn't throw anything away, the reports said it was a great match and the crowd loved it. Sometimes you gotta put big stuff on Rampage for it to matter.

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

I agree. Give it a build to next week's Grand Slam Rampage or WrestleDream with some promos to add to it.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 13, 2023 22:38:30 GMT -5 Facetious said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:34:12 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

I agree. Give it a build to next week's Grand Slam Rampage or WrestleDream with some promos to add to it.

Sounds like they might have other plans for Statlander and Jade that they sped this along

I get the notion of saving it, but at the same time, if you don't put matches like this on Rampage, you further the rhetoric that "Eh Rampage doesn't matter". This is a big time match for the show and further highlights how that show has been pushing the women into the main event. Hope it does numbers.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Sept 13, 2023 22:34:12 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:32:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I'm really ok with it. It reads like they wanted to tie up a loose end, give Statlander a big time win, and move Jade on to new things

They didn't throw anything away, the reports said it was a great match and the crowd loved it. Sometimes you gotta put big stuff on Rampage for it to matter.

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

Could’ve been something for Rampage Grand Slam.

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Sept 13, 2023 22:44:55 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Sept 13, 2023 22:34:12 GMT -5 mrbananagrabber said:

Yeah but at least attempt to build it up. This was a match people would have wanted to see, not just to “oh and Jade came back and in a week she got beat again.” Seems like such a waste.

Could’ve been something for Rampage Grand Slam.

Could have, but maybe they have something else planned for Rampage Grand Slam?

This doesn't seem like a big deal at all in the grand scheme. They will also likely build this up on the show itself as every main event is.

[asuka007]

Thank goodness Kris won.

Now Jade can hopefully move on to some new stuff (as a babyface since fans DO want to cheer for her).

I hope they have something for Kris to do at Grand Slam now though.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

We are in the Rampage paradox. No one watches because nothing big happens but of course you can't put something big on it because it's Rampage after all. And this isn't a shot at anyone. It just happens when you have a show with a smaller audience. Although I will say even with their numbers, they rank well on cable most Fridays and also add more viewers via DVR as a percentage of their overall audience than any other wrestling show. So people do watch it. Just a matter of getting more folks in the habit again.

[markymark]

Sept 13, 2023 22:48:57 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Thank goodness Kris won.

Now Jade can hopefully move on to some new stuff (as a babyface since fans DO want to cheer for her).

I hope they have something for Kris to do at Grand Slam now though.

TK said Mercedes Martinez could be next in line(before Jade returned), so let Kris and Mercedes wrap up their feud.

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Sept 13, 2023 22:58:57 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

We are in the Rampage paradox. No one watches because nothing big happens but of course you can't put something big on it because it's Rampage after all. And this isn't a shot at anyone. It just happens when you have a show with a smaller audience. Although I will say even with their numbers, they rank well on cable most Fridays and also add more viewers via DVR as a percentage of their overall audience than any other wrestling show. So people do watch it. Just a matter of getting more folks in the habit again.

I was so relieved when I saw Jade lost because I thought "Hey, no discourse!", just for it to either be flipped into a discourse that the match was wasted on Rampage or shouldn't have happened on Rampage

As a Rammer, I am through with these injustices!!

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

My instincts are they had to get this match done now before something else happens in the next week or two(whatever that might be, let your imagination run wild). So it was either here or Collision. Both are fine. Perhaps one of them couldn't be there this Saturday. Jade has a lot going on. Or they just thought, we have Danielson wrestling Saturday, Rampage could use a big match to spice it up.

[polarbearpete]

Sept 13, 2023 23:06:21 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

My instincts are they had to get this match done now before something else happens in the next week or two(whatever that might be, let your imagination run wild). So it was either here or Collision. Both are fine. Perhaps one of them couldn't be there this Saturday. Jade has a lot going on. Or they just thought, we have Danielson wrestling Saturday, Rampage could use a big match to spice it up.

Should have showcased it at Grand Slam (ha, 2 women’s matches) or WrestleDream. Unless Statlander or Jade are fighting Mercedes Mone at WrestleDream.

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Sept 13, 2023 23:10:06 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Sept 13, 2023 23:06:21 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

My instincts are they had to get this match done now before something else happens in the next week or two(whatever that might be, let your imagination run wild). So it was either here or Collision. Both are fine. Perhaps one of them couldn't be there this Saturday. Jade has a lot going on. Or they just thought, we have Danielson wrestling Saturday, Rampage could use a big match to spice it up.

Should have showcased it at Grand Slam (ha, 2 women’s matches) or WrestleDream. Unless Statlander or Jade are fighting Mercedes Mone at WrestleDream.

That would be my guess as to why this is happening now. Jade vs Mone is a match they've wanted to run since last year I'm pretty sure.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Sept 13, 2023 23:06:21 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

My instincts are they had to get this match done now before something else happens in the next week or two(whatever that might be, let your imagination run wild). So it was either here or Collision. Both are fine. Perhaps one of them couldn't be there this Saturday. Jade has a lot going on. Or they just thought, we have Danielson wrestling Saturday, Rampage could use a big match to spice it up.

I also tend to think that - and this is no knock on either woman - it’s not exactly a match that even with build up is going to pop some crazy number. They’re probably moving Jade into the primary title scene but wanted to give Kris a little more credibility first.