Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 15, 2023 1:44:24 GMT -5
How does IC champ go above aew world champion on a kayfabe list? The only thing I can imagine is that he has more wins. But do they even go by that, or just who’s being pushed hardest? In theory that would make sense but with that logic he should also be above Roman, OC should be up there with him too. It's available in my libraries magazine app now and looking through the whole list gets more baffling. Miyu Yamashita's ommision in particular. It mentions several wrestlers appearing in EVE but not their champion, she even defended that title against Rhio (not Riho) who I was glad to see did make the list. She's been killing it everywhere but does lose a lot so I get not being high but she should appear.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 15, 2023 2:35:48 GMT -5
These lists are neat but once you leave the top 10 or so it usually becomes a baffling trip down into What The f***sville. Sounds like some rough omissions this year for not much clear reason.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 15, 2023 3:12:29 GMT -5
Oh and where's Tyrus! One of the most dominate champions, beloved by real wrestling fans and he's missed the list entirely.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 15, 2023 5:07:40 GMT -5
Oh and where's Tyrus! One of the most dominate champions, beloved by real wrestling fans and he's missed the list entirely. No, he didn't. He was 58.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 15, 2023 5:50:20 GMT -5
Oh and where's Tyrus! One of the most dominate champions, beloved by real wrestling fans and he's missed the list entirely. No, he didn't. He was 58. Oh damn, zoomed in too far in the alphabetical list and missed him. He does prove how difficult it is to mix kayfabe and a more subjective approach though, listed at 58 but the description says his reign has been a lowlight in the nwa titles history. I'm always left thinking on any top ___ list that they should just be the favourites of the panel. The apparently objective criteria is never stuck to or causes discrepancies.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 15, 2023 6:02:37 GMT -5
Anthony Bowens and Cash Wheeler are also weird snubs, since their tag partners made it in the 180s. Does PWI not know what happens when you piss off Cash Wheeler??
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 15, 2023 6:05:47 GMT -5
It was nice indie seeing wrestlers happy on social media they had made the list and also great to see other wrestlers happy for other wrestlers
You can argue about who should finish where or whatever but to me these people feeling recognised means a lot more
Someone like Rachel Armstrong so happy she made the list, Billie Starkz parents so proud etc
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Sept 15, 2023 6:46:04 GMT -5
Yeah, not feeling this list, and don't agree with #1, but congrats to all the people whose days were made by making it at all. I've actually never seen a Josh Alexander match I swear Speedball's mullet needs to go into the Pro Wrestler Hair Hall of Fame next to AJ Styles' hair blowing in the wind at WM.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 15, 2023 14:15:13 GMT -5
Masha Slamovich at 15 is the highest ranked female in 500 history ..And just put that fact in her ring intro. Crowd still loved her but that's a heel move to me. I don't think even Gresham went that far.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 21, 2023 23:50:37 GMT -5
Out of wrestlers at least most hardcore fans would know I thought Colt Cabana was the lowest ranked wrestler to make the list (474), but then I saw George South was ranked 492. And yes, it is THAT George South. The last time he made the list was in 1998 at 251.
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Chuck Conry
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Post by Chuck Conry on Sept 22, 2023 2:25:18 GMT -5
So how would PWI make this right without bumping somebody "officially" from the list? Have him tie with someone?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 22, 2023 7:51:25 GMT -5
I wish someone would do a deep dive into the PWI 500 through the years. But the list has always been largely non-sense. It’s just a fun list to go through because it’s a huge list and especially now with the Internet you can look up some of these weird names and such.
Speaking of it being non-sense though I’ll never forget that in 1997 Dean Malenko was ranked number one. I was curious to revisit the whole 1997 list because Cagematch.net has all of them. I’ve heard the argument that 1997 was a cop out because they didn’t want to choose a top WWF guy or WCW guy, so they went with a smarky choice. But looking at the list it’s more like they went halfway into being smarks that year. I was curious because Hulk Hogan only got the number 1 spot once. 1997 would’ve been one of the strongest contenders where he could’ve actually been number one again, what with the rise of the NWO and all his kayfabe accomplishments. But he’s ranked number 55!
Of course it was all back to the same happy horseshit in 1998. They still play to the smarks, but mostly just by making sure some indie guys with buzz get some spots, and perhaps a deep cut or two get ranked surprisingly high. The number one spot is all about who’s picture on the cover will sell the most copies.
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Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 22, 2023 8:59:33 GMT -5
Rob naylot and Kris Zellnor covered at least one PWI 500 in full on their Cover to Cover podcast. Think it was last year. And it is 2 or 3 episodes long.
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