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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 17, 2023 2:29:18 GMT -5
he got very lawsuit threat happy more than likely. It’s also because UK libel laws are very different from US ones in what you can sue for and what proof is needed for accusations like this so considering the length of time this investigation had been going on for and how quick Channel 4 was to put this on the air after they had likely had it double and triple checked by lawyers and how quick Brand was to get ahead of it even when his name hadn’t been revealed yet, it must have been practically air tight. Yeah, it's the kind of thing folks like JK Rowling and Graham Linehan have tried to abuse to keep criticism of them stamped out.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 17, 2023 2:56:26 GMT -5
Wasn't Brand a bit of a leftie? How come he's now seen as being a rightie? I imagine his following is probably made up with a mix of both. One of his victims spoke to his agent then Brand lurched into conspiracy theory pusher soon after because he's less likely to lose fans for being a creep in that space because there is zero quality control and he can smear the truth as a political attack. We saw it with Elon Musk, he discovered journalists were planning to release an article on his sexual harassment as they reached out for comment, and he immediately went to the right wing media and declared people were planning political hit pieces because he's with them now.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 17, 2023 2:58:20 GMT -5
It’s also because UK libel laws are very different from US ones in what you can sue for and what proof is needed for accusations like this so considering the length of time this investigation had been going on for and how quick Channel 4 was to put this on the air after they had likely had it double and triple checked by lawyers and how quick Brand was to get ahead of it even when his name hadn’t been revealed yet, it must have been practically air tight. Yeah, it's the kind of thing folks like JK Rowling and Graham Linehan have tried to abuse to keep criticism of them stamped out. See JK Rowling threatening to sue people for showing undoctored screenshots of her liking tweets praising ISIS for being transphobic.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Sept 17, 2023 4:00:06 GMT -5
Wasn't Brand a bit of a leftie? How come he's now seen as being a rightie? I imagine his following is probably made up with a mix of both. One of his victims spoke to his agent then Brand lurched into conspiracy theory pusher soon after because he's less likely to lose fans for being a creep in that space because there is zero quality control and he can smear the truth as a political attack. We saw it with Elon Musk, he discovered journalists were planning to release an article on his sexual harassment as they reached out for comment, and he immediately went to the right wing media and declared people were planning political hit pieces because he's with them now. I dunno, I still don't really get it. I've never been sold on the idea of people being pigeoned into either left or right, and while in some cases some people are, I think people are genuinely a mix of many things and don't think boiling it down to two camps is really accurate. I'm sure people who curse the MSM hate both the daily mail and the guardian and hold both sides in contempt. Like I said, he's a wanker. Always thought he was a wanker who tried to talk fancy and use big words but ended up sounding like a shitehead
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 17, 2023 10:33:55 GMT -5
Among the smattering of people who have come to Brand's defense include Elon Musk (accused of indecent exposure), Tucker Carlson (sued for sexual harassments), and Andrew Tate (indicted on charges of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation).
Of course, the sort of people who take all four of these men very seriously would sooner believe all of these accusations are Illuminati conspiracies because woke or something. I saw one comment that was very telling: a Russell Brand defender basically wondered what "they" were going to do now that SA allegations "don't work anymore", which is a sad indictment. A not insignificant portion of society has basically responded to #MeToo, not by looking inward or confronting a misogynistic culture, but instead by deciding to never take sexual assault seriously again... unless it's someone they don't like.
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Post by The Warthog on Sept 17, 2023 10:48:58 GMT -5
Not shocking at all if only because even before these accusations it's been very clear for awhile he's just like a massive pile of trash. And the people defending him are even bigger piles of trash.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Sept 17, 2023 11:10:09 GMT -5
Among the smattering of people who have come to Brand's defense include Elon Musk (accused of indecent exposure), Tucker Carlson (sued for sexual harassments), and Andrew Tate (indicted on charges of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation). The Legion of Date Rape.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 17, 2023 11:14:29 GMT -5
Among the smattering of people who have come to Brand's defense include Elon Musk (accused of indecent exposure), Tucker Carlson (sued for sexual harassments), and Andrew Tate (indicted on charges of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation). Of course, the sort of people who take all four of these men very seriously would sooner believe all of these accusations are Illuminati conspiracies because woke or something. I saw one comment that was very telling: a Russell Brand defender basically wondered what "they" were going to do now that SA allegations "don't work anymore", which is a sad indictment. A not insignificant portion of society has basically responded to #MeToo, not by looking inward or confronting a misogynistic culture, but instead by deciding to never take sexual assault seriously again... unless it's someone they don't like. Ironically, a more credible conspiracy theory is that wealthy right wing men are trying to normalise sexual abuse.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 17, 2023 12:14:11 GMT -5
I'm sure Corgan is in his comment section on Rumble as we speak, trying to get him to come to the NWA. It doesn't matter that he can't wrestle, that didn't stop him hiring Tyrus.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 17, 2023 15:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 17, 2023 15:19:10 GMT -5
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 17, 2023 15:24:00 GMT -5
Classic example of a missing stair.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Sept 17, 2023 15:42:04 GMT -5
I can't understand why so many were willing to protect him. He's terrible in every role he's ever been in.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 17, 2023 15:59:35 GMT -5
I can't understand why so many were willing to protect him. He's terrible in every role he's ever been in. He's extremely litigious. All the people asking why it's taken so long for any of this to come out simply aren't understanding that Channel 4 and The Times have had to put together a legally airtight investigation, lest he put them through the ringer in the UK courts. As for why he still gets work despite his reputation, he's currently in the middle of a sold-out standup tour. His stock in Hollywood may have tanked in the last few years, but he's still a huge draw as a comedian.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 17, 2023 16:06:14 GMT -5
I can't understand why so many were willing to protect him. He's terrible in every role he's ever been in. Money. I suspect they thought he was going to do a Piers Morgan or James Cordon and become mainstream in America despite being a bag of crap as a person that people were hesitant to work with or be around in their home nation. It genuinely felt like he was going to be a big deal for a while, despite his lack of talent.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 17, 2023 16:35:02 GMT -5
I can't understand why so many were willing to protect him. He's terrible in every role he's ever been in. He's extremely litigious. All the people asking why it's taken so long for any of this to come out simply aren't understanding that Channel 4 and The Times have had to put together a legally airtight investigation, lest he put them through the ringer in the UK courts. As for why he still gets work despite his reputation, he's currently in the middle of a sold-out standup tour. His stock in Hollywood may have tanked in the last few years, but he's still a huge draw as a comedian. The investigation took 4 years to finish. Any wrong step, it basically all falls apart even if most of it is super credible. There are too many cases of people saying stuff and being silenced by lawyers (or threatening to do as much with the whole Adam Blampied story from earlier this week which you probably didn't hear much of because of how complicated the process of letting people know that was ongoing was). And if you're wondering how Brand's tour is going, he got a standing ovation on Saturday as he went on stage which is pretty much both expected and entirely depressing.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 17, 2023 17:05:18 GMT -5
One of his victims spoke to his agent then Brand lurched into conspiracy theory pusher soon after because he's less likely to lose fans for being a creep in that space because there is zero quality control and he can smear the truth as a political attack. We saw it with Elon Musk, he discovered journalists were planning to release an article on his sexual harassment as they reached out for comment, and he immediately went to the right wing media and declared people were planning political hit pieces because he's with them now. I dunno, I still don't really get it. I've never been sold on the idea of people being pigeoned into either left or right, and while in some cases some people are, I think people are genuinely a mix of many things and don't think boiling it down to two camps is really accurate. I'm sure people who curse the MSM hate both the daily mail and the guardian and hold both sides in contempt. Like I said, he's a wanker. Always thought he was a wanker who tried to talk fancy and use big words but ended up sounding like a shitehead He’s never been politically left or right. He’s just a grifter who plays to whatever audience he thinks will get him paid. It’s what ultimate warrior tried to do in the 2000’s.
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Post by darbus alan on Sept 17, 2023 17:15:28 GMT -5
The incels and other loons on the fringe are some of the easiest marks to take advantage where any two-bit grifter could peddle complete bullshit and be hailed as a "truth-teller." Just as long as it justifies their opinions.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 17, 2023 17:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by Glitch on Sept 17, 2023 18:05:34 GMT -5
I wonder which celebrities will destroy their reputations by writings letters in his defense.
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