Demented
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Post by Demented on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:12 GMT -5
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Legion
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Post by Legion on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:16 GMT -5
Yes. Angels just cut about 10 people after they made trades to get below the luxury tax line including putting someone on basically the waivers because they were out on personal leave dealing with family. It only saved them 10k and didn’t even get them below the tax line Sure but the Angels are a mismanaged dumpster fire trying to get below the line for an actual purpose around league rules. With WWE these cuts are just meant to shed payroll for the vague sense that Nick Khan wants a new boat. There's no fresh blood coming in here, there's no caps or external reasons they need to do this, this is just a cycle of bullshit. So, how do you ever progress someone from NXT to the main roster and pay the bump that comes with that financially? You move some out to pay for new ones to come up. Your over all talent budget remains the same. That is my understanding of how the budget works there?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:26 GMT -5
He's just such a solid utility player. I know he's not much of a talker, but he's so good in the ring you'd think it wouldn't be hard to find a good use for him. Though he's also somehow 48 years old. I think age was starting to catch up with him in the last few years but he could still be a good veteran for a tag team elsewhere. I wonder if R-Truth makes it out of this one, tbh, he's 51 and they could just put him under a legends deal or something for an occasional appearance.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:32 GMT -5
Ziggler's going to AEW/ROH, no doubt.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Sept 21, 2023 11:08:34 GMT -5
Ziggler got released because they couldn't have him pass Ortons TV match record.
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Post by Error on Sept 21, 2023 11:09:04 GMT -5
Sad thing: I made this thinking about the one in NXT after thinking about Oddesey Jones and just now realized it can mean Matthew Riddle as well. Are you thinking of Quincy? I don't think Oddysey Jones is scooter boy. Yes but my original thought was the guy drafted to Raw who hasn't been on Raw that isn't Steveson, which was Jones.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 21, 2023 11:09:35 GMT -5
Oh, Mia ain't gonna be happy that Shelton's gone. she probably shouldn't answer the phone herself the way things are going And now I'm imagining Shelton, Keith Lee, and Mia Yim as a trio
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Killah Ray
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 21, 2023 11:09:36 GMT -5
Give me Shelton in NJ Strong now!
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Post by Mecca on Sept 21, 2023 11:09:39 GMT -5
Sure but the Angels are a mismanaged dumpster fire trying to get below the line for an actual purpose around league rules. With WWE these cuts are just meant to shed payroll for the vague sense that Nick Khan wants a new boat. There's no fresh blood coming in here, there's no caps or external reasons they need to do this, this is just a cycle of bullshit. So, how do you ever progress someone from NXT to the main roster and pay the bump that comes with that financially? You move some out to pay for new ones to come up. Your over all talent budget remains the same. That is my understanding of how the budget works there? Their inability to make new stars is why this happens...they just cycle out the people they failed with to fail with the new batch.
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Post by dablueboy on Sept 21, 2023 11:10:24 GMT -5
Shelton and Dolph would be solid hands for ROH the former especially Top Dolla - the end was nigh after the botched tope Elias - see Dolph and Shelton Ali - same Moss - Impact or NWA Emma and Aaliyah - Impact or ROH Boogz - NWA
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Sept 21, 2023 11:10:36 GMT -5
Heh honestly Ziggler felt like someone WWE would never shake, even when they stopped using him.
Now I guess we'll get to see if some of his more insufferable tweets go anywhere
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 21, 2023 11:10:47 GMT -5
It's time for Dolph to join the Cream Saga.
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 21, 2023 11:10:50 GMT -5
Dolph being gone is genuinely surprising. He was there forever and was the ultimate utility player.
I could see AEW picking him up to team with his brother.
And yet WWE brought freaking Nia back.
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Killah Ray
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 21, 2023 11:11:27 GMT -5
Ziggler's going to AEW/ROH, no doubt. Nemeth brothers are at minimum future ROH tag champs..
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 21, 2023 11:11:59 GMT -5
Yes. Angels just cut about 10 people after they made trades to get below the luxury tax line including putting someone on basically the waivers because they were out on personal leave dealing with family. It only saved them 10k and didn’t even get them below the tax line Sure but the Angels are a mismanaged dumpster fire trying to get below the line for an actual purpose around league rules. With WWE these cuts are just meant to shed payroll for the vague sense that Nick Khan wants a new boat. There's no fresh blood coming in here, there's no caps or external reasons they need to do this, this is just a cycle of bullshit. Wait, wait, wait. The Angels have a purpose?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 21, 2023 11:12:27 GMT -5
So, how do you ever progress someone from NXT to the main roster and pay the bump that comes with that financially? You move some out to pay for new ones to come up. Your over all talent budget remains the same. That is my understanding of how the budget works there? Their inability to make new stars is why this happens...they just cycle out the people they failed with to fail with the new batch. But also, WWE’s answer the last few years of “How do you move people from NXT?” Is to, for the most part, not to do that for some reason and re-hire people like Emma and Hit Row to do f*** all. Like, half of NXT have been there since the Wednesday Night Wars began which is f***ing wild when the point of NXT is to not have them there too long.
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Post by ANuclearError on Sept 21, 2023 11:12:30 GMT -5
Shelton is one of those guys who I always knew was great in ring, but just never cared about at all. He had no connection with me as a fan. He'll be an easy pick for any company looking for some experience though, Impact maybe - or I could legit see him as NWA champ, with a mouthpiece maybe. He feels like one of those guys who could become a good trainer or producer behind the scenes, his assets always felt like those which are more easily coachable if you get me.
I can see Ziggler going down the Cardona route for me a bit.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 21, 2023 11:12:41 GMT -5
Sure but the Angels are a mismanaged dumpster fire trying to get below the line for an actual purpose around league rules. With WWE these cuts are just meant to shed payroll for the vague sense that Nick Khan wants a new boat. There's no fresh blood coming in here, there's no caps or external reasons they need to do this, this is just a cycle of bullshit. So, how do you ever progress someone from NXT to the main roster and pay the bump that comes with that financially? You move some out to pay for new ones to come up. Your over all talent budget remains the same. That is my understanding of how the budget works there? I understand how math works, but the overall talent budget does not remain the same. Budget cuts have been cited for all of the mass releases we've seen the past few years and there is very likely to be a Nick Khan statement to that effect once the hell is over and the remaining talent get an email. They are not going to be taking the dollars 1:1 freed up here and giving them to NXT talent in the coming months. The goal is to drive down the amount being spent on talent and I'm honestly stunned anyone could expect anything to the contrary.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Sept 21, 2023 11:12:50 GMT -5
Dolph should be a reminder to all of us: Loyalty to the workplace is overrated. They’ll cut you off no matter how much time, blood, sweat, and tears you pour into your job.
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Killah Ray
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 21, 2023 11:12:55 GMT -5
It's time for Dolph to join the Cream Saga. He has to be involved with the next evolution of the cream…preferably by Monday…
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