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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 23, 2023 10:25:06 GMT -5
Moved a bunch of posts because this isn't a misunderstanding thread.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 10:28:26 GMT -5
Lmao we're a step away from pistols at dawn over a comma.
A lot of new WWE themes after CF0$ left were pretty generic and bad. I never understood people disliking them as much as they did. They dropped banger after banger and people were caught up over how they were 30s-1min long loops instead of slightly different over the course of 3 minutes like Jim Johnston. A case of you don't know what you got till it's gone.
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Post by Venti on Oct 23, 2023 10:43:15 GMT -5
Lmao we're a step away from pistols at dawn over a comma. A lot of new WWE themes after CF0$ left were pretty generic and bad. I never understood people disliking them as much as they did. They dropped banger after banger and people were caught up over how they were 30s-1min long loops instead of slightly different over the course of 3 minutes like Jim Johnston. A case of you don't know what you got till it's gone. Jim Johnston is the wrestling theme GOAT IMO, but CFO$ is right there with him to me. So many great themes that I love, and I think people knocked them both because of the loops like you mentioned, and because they weren't Jim Johnston(who, in all fairness made some generic stuff in his time.) Outside of a few tracks, most of the songs def Rebel or whatever he's called makes are some really generic stuff that doesn't tell me anything about the character or give that immediate entrance pop. Like Roman and the rest of the Bloodline, Happy Corbin(which I miss) and LA Knight are the only themes he's made that stand out to me. So I definitely agree and I think CFO$ was very under appreciated
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 23, 2023 11:00:09 GMT -5
Jim Johnston is the wrestling theme GOAT IMO, but CFO$ is right there with him to me. So many great themes that I love, and I think people knocked them both because of the loops like you mentioned, and because they weren't Jim Johnston(who, in all fairness made some generic stuff in his time.) The only real difference between the methodologies of Johnston and CFO$ was when a theme had lyrics Johnston (or whoever put lyrics to his music) wrote multiple verses, while CFO$ wrote one verse and called it a day. I think if CFO$'s lyrical themes were full songs rather than just looping the same verse and chorus four or five times they'd have been appreciated more. As it is, I cannot fault a good chunk of their instrumental themes.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 23, 2023 11:40:47 GMT -5
Gang, CFO$ were specifically told to make loops as, if I recall correctly, production didn't want songs that officially ended and then had to start up again for longer celebration sequences or cameras-off end of night go home stuff. They wanted something that, if need be, they could endlessly loop without being abruptly noticable.
I don't think it's fair to knock their work at all for "just being loops" when they layered so much into those songs when they really could have just made lazy generic loops instead of musically rich catchy memorable themes in rapid succession.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 11:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 23, 2023 12:11:55 GMT -5
Gang, CFO$ were specifically told to make loops as, if I recall correctly, production didn't want songs that officially ended and then had to start up again for longer celebration sequences or cameras-off end of night go home stuff. They wanted something that, if need be, they could endlessly loop without being abruptly noticable. Having a loop that is noticeable after 45 seconds or so because you don't want a more noticeable loop after four or five minutes on the one or two occasions per year when a theme might run that long on TV is typical WWE not being able to see the forest for the trees. CFO$ were talented cats. Should've let them cook unencumbered.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Oct 23, 2023 12:19:00 GMT -5
He left the company soon after so he didn't have it for long but Angle got a bit of a remixed theme I think in 2006 that felt pointless to me. It did have a point, kind of. This was Angle's soft reboot as part of WWECW, so they wanted a version of his song that didn't prompt fans to say "You suck".
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 23, 2023 12:28:50 GMT -5
Some of CFO$'s earlier efforts weren't good, but I thought they settled into a solid groove after that. Not as good as Jim Johnston's best efforts but certainly better than their successors'.
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Post by Aceorton on Oct 23, 2023 12:30:15 GMT -5
Hot take: Bret Hart '94 replacing the Hart Foundation music. Yet another hot take: I missed That's All Right, Honky Tonk Mama when the Piledriver Honky Tonk Man theme took effect. I agree on both of these. Bret's second theme with the guitar wailing wasn't bad, but the first one that the Harts had used previously as a team felt more no-nonsense and iconic to me. Honky Tonk Mama just fit Honky way better because it didn't seem like it was him singing it. His Piledriver theme actually undercut him as a heel, IMO, by showing he had musical talent.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 23, 2023 13:03:51 GMT -5
He left the company soon after so he didn't have it for long but Angle got a bit of a remixed theme I think in 2006 that felt pointless to me. It did have a point, kind of. This was Angle's soft reboot as part of WWECW, so they wanted a version of his song that didn't prompt fans to say "You suck". Which would’ve fit more a few months prior when Angle had a breakdown over the “you suck” chants.
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Post by anakin on Oct 23, 2023 16:37:51 GMT -5
I don't mind the theme Bret Hart has used since his return, but it's definitely a downgrade. Fitting as they may have been, Bray Wyatt's themes after "Broken Out in Love" were downgrades. Finlay's heel theme > Hornswoggle theme. Live In Fear...
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Oct 24, 2023 21:14:41 GMT -5
The Del Rio Face Turn edit of his theme that got rid of the awesome intro horns and just jumped to the chorus.
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Post by Andew9001 on Oct 24, 2023 21:21:18 GMT -5
Jack Swagger going from Soaring Eagle to On Your Knees. Adding lyrics and slowing the tempo ruined that song.
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Post by Ozman on Oct 25, 2023 6:00:05 GMT -5
Shinskue Nakamura’s heel rap theme was a definite downgrade from his iconic theme.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 25, 2023 10:11:54 GMT -5
I remember when for some reason they gave Corey Graves a new theme that was about 50 times worse than Christcontrol
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Post by SirLucas on Oct 25, 2023 10:27:03 GMT -5
In modern day WWE, I'd say Ricochet going from the badass "One and Only" theme to just something that sounds ultra generic.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Oct 25, 2023 11:41:59 GMT -5
The Beverly Brothers first theme was an all timer. Then they changed it to a super generic song.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Oct 25, 2023 12:26:57 GMT -5
Hot(tish) take:
When the version of Shawn singing Sexy Boy was introduced in 1993.
It's iconic now, but Sherri's was better.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Oct 25, 2023 13:52:51 GMT -5
Big Shows theme that was sung by Michael Hayes was much better than Crank It Up.
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