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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 22, 2024 22:13:31 GMT -5
This might turn out to be an all time historically bad team.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 23, 2024 12:32:16 GMT -5
Mets lose two in a row after winning six in a row, and it seems their main vulnerability is starting to come into focus: the starting pitching isn't bad, but it's currently a rotation of mostly guys who are middle-to-back end types (Quintana, Houser, Manaea), plus guys who are capable of more but aren't likely to emerge as aces, as Severino's been decent but not dominant and Butto has shown some real potential but isn't proven yet. A lot of these guys need to locate their pitches in order to be effective, since they lack the stuff for movement or sheer power to do the job for them, and it's leading to them walking way too many hitters. Some of that's understandable - playing the Braves and Dodgers in a short span of time can make that the case - but it's too much, and last night was another case of it as Quintana walked five Giants. It's still early, granted: Houser and Quintana are off to a bad starts but have track records of being a decent back end guy, so it's possible they rights the ship. But until Senga gets back there's no one to turn to as a real top of the rotation arm, and in a division with Atlanta and Philly the leashes may have to be short. Bright side: down on the farm the Mets currently have Joey Lucchesi as a depth piece who's capable of solid big league production, but they also have intriguing young prospect Christian Scott looking pretty damned good so far. Scott will likely force his way to the bigs at some point this year; I'm sure they'd like him to save his bullets a bit, so it's possible he'd come up and work out of the bullpen so his innings count doesn't jump too high in one year, but it's nice to know those options are there. I don't want to do a panic move and jump these guys up right away because a starter has had a couple bad starts out of four total so far, but it's going to be a situation they need to keep an eye on, for sure. It's wild that baseball has reviews, but you can't review a strike call on a ball half a foot outside the zone or on an ejection where the ump admits Boone is probably right but his feelie wheelies are hurt. Baseball is a great sport with godawful everything else. Yeah, I'd rather avoid going full robot umps, but I think I'm ok with managers getting to instantly challenge a couple particularly egregious strike/ball calls per game.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 23, 2024 18:43:00 GMT -5
It's wild that baseball has reviews, but you can't review a strike call on a ball half a foot outside the zone or on an ejection where the ump admits Boone is probably right but his feelie wheelies are hurt. Baseball is a great sport with godawful everything else. Yeah, I'd rather avoid going full robot umps, but I think I'm ok with managers getting to instantly challenge a couple particularly egregious strike/ball calls per game. I mean, the gold standard of review in sports is tennis w/HawkEye and they still have line judges and umpires. But you get a few times a game where you can put your finger up and signal a challenge and it's replayed on the jumbotron with exact measurement, and the whole thing takes 15 seconds. Now it goes without saying that something like that is way too efficient, painless, and entertaining so the MLB would obviously have to add their own changes to make it take way longer and more fallible and just generally frustrating, but I think that is the guide. Maybe 3 challenges a game, maybe an extra 1 if you get them all right.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 23, 2024 20:16:25 GMT -5
Max Fried just threw a Maddux
Complete game shutout under 100 pitches
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Post by Cyno on Apr 23, 2024 20:23:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd rather avoid going full robot umps, but I think I'm ok with managers getting to instantly challenge a couple particularly egregious strike/ball calls per game. I mean, the gold standard of review in sports is tennis w/HawkEye and they still have line judges and umpires. But you get a few times a game where you can put your finger up and signal a challenge and it's replayed on the jumbotron with exact measurement, and the whole thing takes 15 seconds. Now it goes without saying that something like that is way too efficient, painless, and entertaining so the MLB would obviously have to add their own changes to make it take way longer and more fallible and just generally frustrating, but I think that is the guide. Maybe 3 challenges a game, maybe an extra 1 if you get them all right. It's incredible how Baseball always finds a way to make the relatively simple and painless into painful and annoying.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2024 20:48:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd rather avoid going full robot umps, but I think I'm ok with managers getting to instantly challenge a couple particularly egregious strike/ball calls per game. I mean, the gold standard of review in sports is tennis w/HawkEye and they still have line judges and umpires. But you get a few times a game where you can put your finger up and signal a challenge and it's replayed on the jumbotron with exact measurement, and the whole thing takes 15 seconds. Now it goes without saying that something like that is way too efficient, painless, and entertaining so the MLB would obviously have to add their own changes to make it take way longer and more fallible and just generally frustrating, but I think that is the guide. Maybe 3 challenges a game, maybe an extra 1 if you get them all right. MLB is in the shape it is in because people want to cling to the way it used to be and old times. Nah, I rather this shit be correct and the umps being end all of everything is f***ing shit up. They will still have a job but them calling Balls and Strikes should be something that is coming to a close.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 23, 2024 21:04:05 GMT -5
I mean, the gold standard of review in sports is tennis w/HawkEye and they still have line judges and umpires. But you get a few times a game where you can put your finger up and signal a challenge and it's replayed on the jumbotron with exact measurement, and the whole thing takes 15 seconds. Now it goes without saying that something like that is way too efficient, painless, and entertaining so the MLB would obviously have to add their own changes to make it take way longer and more fallible and just generally frustrating, but I think that is the guide. Maybe 3 challenges a game, maybe an extra 1 if you get them all right. MLB is in the shape it is in because people want to cling to the way it used to be and old times. Nah, I rather this shit be correct and the umps being end all of everything is f***ing shit up. They will still have a job but them calling Balls and Strikes should be something that is coming to a close. Yeah, the other thing is tennis had competent umpires and line judges to begin with. Baseball has always been ok with umpires having "their own" strike zone, which is stupid to begin with. It's hard to take calling a game out of the hands of someone like Angel Hernandez (the posterboy for incompetence in all of sports the last 25 years) without going full-on robo umps. There's a downside either way. I think ultimately we'll end up with it, but not in the next 15 years.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2024 21:10:26 GMT -5
MLB is in the shape it is in because people want to cling to the way it used to be and old times. Nah, I rather this shit be correct and the umps being end all of everything is f***ing shit up. They will still have a job but them calling Balls and Strikes should be something that is coming to a close. Yeah, the other thing is tennis had competent umpires and line judges to begin with. Baseball has always been ok with umpires having "their own" strike zone, which is stupid to begin with. It's hard to take calling a game out of the hands of someone like Angel Hernandez (the posterboy for incompetence in all of sports the last 25 years) without going full-on robo umps. There's a downside either way. I think ultimately we'll end up with it, but not in the next 15 years. I think there was nothing wrong for a good while with the "human element" as far as umps having a little high or low strike zone. The problem comes in when you have people like Angel who are clearly bad at their job and everyone knows it but is allowed to still continue and make the game about himself People were calling for MLB to do robot umps over the last 10 years and with them finally doing it in the minors, they won't be in any rush to do it in the majors unless their is a big push
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Post by BRV on Apr 24, 2024 11:07:11 GMT -5
It's wild that baseball has reviews, but you can't review a strike call on a ball half a foot outside the zone or on an ejection where the ump admits Boone is probably right but his feelie wheelies are hurt. Baseball is a great sport with godawful everything else. Nope. Challenging balls and strikes is akin to challenging pass interference in football. It's mostly a judgment call, and not every umpire perceives the strike zone exactly the same, just as not every NFL official perceives pass interference the same. The strike zone on your TV screen serves as a guide, it's not sacrosanct. I'm sure if we instituted automatic balls and strikes based on the "strike zone," there would be a flurry of hitters angry about high fastballs up at the letters that are now being called for strikes, just as there would be angry pitchers about a ball being called on a breaking ball that snaps a hair off the bottom of the zone. It's an imperfect system, but there is no perfect system. And as they say, perfect is the enemy of good.
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Post by sfvega on Apr 24, 2024 12:28:25 GMT -5
It's wild that baseball has reviews, but you can't review a strike call on a ball half a foot outside the zone or on an ejection where the ump admits Boone is probably right but his feelie wheelies are hurt. Baseball is a great sport with godawful everything else. Nope. Challenging balls and strikes is akin to challenging pass interference in football. It's mostly a judgment call, and not every umpire perceives the strike zone exactly the same, just as not every NFL official perceives pass interference the same. The strike zone on your TV screen serves as a guide, it's not sacrosanct. I'm sure if we instituted automatic balls and strikes based on the "strike zone," there would be a flurry of hitters angry about high fastballs up at the letters that are now being called for strikes, just as there would be angry pitchers about a ball being called on a breaking ball that snaps a hair off the bottom of the zone. It's an imperfect system, but there is no perfect system. And as they say, perfect is the enemy of good. Oh that sucks, tbh. Off the plate is off the plate. This sport drug its feet for years on replay like major gaffes are some f***ing purist part of the sport. The same way writers wouldn't give Cys to guys on bad teams. Because we don't need new anything. It reminds me of old hockey fans that loathe the new game because it's not guys beating the shit out of each other for 60 minutes. Times change, games evolve, calls that can reasonably be righted should be righted. This old curmudgeon mentality that permeates the sport keeps baseball from breaking through to younger demos. It's embarrassing to watch these videos of things that could be easily(. SO EASILY.) corrected, that let's everyone bash the sport for being incompetent, look at the solution to these issues, and be like "That would be too much." And again, I'm not expecting robo umps any time soon. But this sucks, and everyone knows it. We don't need to hem and haw about change like Angel's gross incompetence is some charming feature of baseball rather than a really obvious flaw that needs to be corrected.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Apr 24, 2024 15:23:12 GMT -5
...so now Cody Bellinger has a fractured rib, he just loves getting injured while playing the Astros this is two years in a row now! So now Cubs are without the ace of the rotation Justin Steele, one of our best arms in the pen with Julian Merryweather, and now two of our best hitters in Cody Bellinger and Seiya Suzuki. I swear at this pace our entire AAA roster will be up playing by the all star break.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 24, 2024 18:01:23 GMT -5
...so now Cody Bellinger has a fractured rib, he just loves getting injured while playing the Astros this is two years in a row now! So now Cubs are without the ace of the rotation Justin Steele, one of our best arms in the pen with Julian Merryweather, and now two of our best hitters in Cody Bellinger and Seiya Suzuki. I swear at this pace our entire AAA roster will be up playing by the all star break. Hendricks also went on the IL He was absolutely terrible and it seemed very expected due to how terrible he was out the gate but yeah it's another arm
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Post by mo on Apr 24, 2024 20:03:39 GMT -5
Well that sucks
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Post by Vampiro138 on Apr 24, 2024 20:22:38 GMT -5
...so now Cody Bellinger has a fractured rib, he just loves getting injured while playing the Astros this is two years in a row now! So now Cubs are without the ace of the rotation Justin Steele, one of our best arms in the pen with Julian Merryweather, and now two of our best hitters in Cody Bellinger and Seiya Suzuki. I swear at this pace our entire AAA roster will be up playing by the all star break. Hendricks also went on the IL He was absolutely terrible and it seemed very expected due to how terrible he was out the gate but yeah it's another arm Yeah, I feel its one of those phantom injuries for Hendricks, dude is awful and has been since August last year. Love the guy but I feel its over for him as a starter. As is, Cubs currently leading the Astros 4 - 2 in the 5th. So if the Cubs can keep the train going alright, I guess its best to get these injuries out of the way now and not have this all happen down a very important stretch.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 24, 2024 20:51:00 GMT -5
Snell injured. Seems like maybe he should have been staying in shape while Boras tanked his value. Guess that’s too much to ask though, even without a contract.
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Post by mo on Apr 24, 2024 22:20:43 GMT -5
The champs back on top of the AL West
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 24, 2024 22:31:45 GMT -5
Snell injured. Seems like maybe he should have been staying in shape while Boras tanked his value. Guess that’s too much to ask though, even without a contract. Who knew that missing Spring Training would be bad for Snell? Honesty outside of everybody, who could have seen it coming?
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Post by Cyno on Apr 25, 2024 12:47:53 GMT -5
Snell injured. Seems like maybe he should have been staying in shape while Boras tanked his value. Guess that’s too much to ask though, even without a contract. Who knew that missing Spring Training would be bad for Snell? Honesty outside of everybody, who could have seen it coming? I'm shocked that a starting pitcher with an injury history who couldn't get properly warmed up in Spring Training would get injured. Shocked! Wonder if he follows Montgomery's example and gets a new agent.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 25, 2024 14:48:22 GMT -5
Reds logic: let’s replace our leadoff hitter batting in the .100s with another hitter batting in the .100s. Profit!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 25, 2024 17:10:41 GMT -5
Laughing at how bad the Astros are is fun so far.
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