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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 13:56:37 GMT -5
A positive here is that the more Joshi HHH collects like Pokemon should in theory elevate the in ring with the women ten fold.
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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 6, 2023 13:56:41 GMT -5
HHH turning the WWE womens division into a Joshi playground is my new favourite thing lol. Kenny Omega sitting at home screaming like Yugi "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEE". But she's a HUGE get. Huge huge get. It puts the Tinashe get to shame.
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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 6, 2023 13:58:12 GMT -5
I assume it’s not possible to happen this fast because of contracts but a WarGames match with Iyo, Asuka, Giulia and Kairi against Bayley, Sasha, Charlotte and Becky would be something. Yeah I wouldn’t expect Sasha until maybe Summer Slam at the earliest…she seems to be wanting tk do the freelance thing and the injury really messed that up so I feel she has a lot more she wants to do before being grounded by a contract anywhere…
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Post by clc on Nov 6, 2023 14:09:46 GMT -5
The Joshi fan in me is excited. The WWE watcher in me is afraid they will never get to wrestle each other and are there only to be fed to Charlotte/Bianca.
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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 6, 2023 14:12:02 GMT -5
The Joshi fan in me is excited. The WWE watcher in me is afraid they will never get to wrestle each other and are there only to be fed to Charlotte/Bianca. Eh I feel like Charlotte has a foot out the door for some reason. Unless that contract extension was confirmed…
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Post by mistery on Nov 6, 2023 14:21:18 GMT -5
Dave is claiming Giulia is under contract with Bushiroad until March, and isn't allowed to visit the WWE PC without their (Bushiroad's) permission. People are taking that as a sign that she isn't going to WWE, when it's more likely she gets permission from Bushiroad to visit the PC. And I wouldn't be shocked if they grant her a release from her STARDOM deal if she happens to request it, because right now, Bushiroad is in a pretty bad spot financially. Their wrestling side is doing "well", but overall they are still hemorrhaging money.
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Post by Killah Ray on Nov 6, 2023 14:30:03 GMT -5
Dave is claiming Giulia is under contract with Bushiroad until March, and isn't allowed to visit the WWE PC without their (Bushiroad's) permission. People are taking that as a sign that she isn't going to WWE, when it's more likely she gets permission from Bushiroad to visit the PC. And I wouldn't be shocked if they grant her a release from her STARDOM deal if she happens to request it, because right now, Bushiroad is in a pretty bad spot financially. Their wrestling side is doing "well", but overall they are still hemorrhaging money. With the money they supposedly have tied up in Mercedes, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the end result.
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Post by Talent Name on Nov 6, 2023 14:41:24 GMT -5
For those unfamiliar with her such as myself what are the top 5 matches to watch
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Post by ejm olmos on Nov 6, 2023 14:45:47 GMT -5
Kenny Omega sitting at home screaming like Yugi "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEE". But she's a HUGE get. Huge huge get. It puts the Tinashe get to shame. Let’s not get crazy now.
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Post by dex on Nov 6, 2023 14:47:04 GMT -5
Also why does it seem like som many fan's dream scenario for Joshi wrestlers is to group them all together?
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Post by Legion on Nov 6, 2023 14:55:37 GMT -5
Dave is claiming Giulia is under contract with Bushiroad until March, and isn't allowed to visit the WWE PC without their (Bushiroad's) permission. People are taking that as a sign that she isn't going to WWE, when it's more likely she gets permission from Bushiroad to visit the PC. And I wouldn't be shocked if they grant her a release from her STARDOM deal if she happens to request it, because right now, Bushiroad is in a pretty bad spot financially. Their wrestling side is doing "well", but overall they are still hemorrhaging money. Given his reporting on women, and on Japan, I fully expect to hear she's signed by tomorrow. Man doesnt usually get anything about the Japanese Jisgu scene right
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 14:57:34 GMT -5
Also why does it seem like som many fan's dream scenario for Joshi wrestlers is to group them all together? Joshi are largely all about units and they all manage to be unquely pretty damn cool so it is a familiarity. But also atleast to me WWE doesn't seem to wanna really push them individually..I mean yea Asuka has gotten her moments but the constant thread with her is that even as champion she becomes a 3rd-4th wheel in anything she did and was never the true focus of the divison. Same with KAIRI who got nothing to do on her own except tagged with Asuka. IYO is also the same she may be champion but largely the focus tends to remain on Bayley and what she does.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2023 15:04:17 GMT -5
For those unfamiliar with her such as myself what are the top 5 matches to watch It all kind of comes down to opinion especially with Joshi considering how stellar match to match usually is. But I will say go watch anything with Tam Nakano it is her key rivalry...I posted the video of a nice summation of their entire feud that basically gives a condensed version of her biggest moments and matches with Tam. But also Suzu Suzuki. And here is the backstory to that one.
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Post by dex on Nov 6, 2023 15:08:17 GMT -5
Also why does it seem like som many fan's dream scenario for Joshi wrestlers is to group them all together? Joshi are largely all about units and they all manage to be unquely pretty damn cool so it is a familiarity. Ok but A. A good chunk.majority of the IWC has little to no understanding of knowledge of Joshi outside of the clips and highlights reels they see/react to on twitter or wherever ( which ties into another complaint I have the peoples support of women's wrestling financially outside of major promotions is all bark no bite).So they don't really no anything about the stables so it comes off more to me like lets throw all the asian women together which is something people criticize WWE for all the time. B. Giulia has had nothing to do with Io or Asuka in her entire career (she debuted after Asuka left Japan), and very little to do with Kairi outside of one match.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 6, 2023 17:02:20 GMT -5
I imagine they'd do a whole lot better by her than Sarray, but that... "run"... is probably going to cost them a lot of benefit of the doubt with some other women when it comes time to make offers. Asuka, Iyo, and Kairi have/had strong runs, but I am still astonished at the absolute indifference that went into their use of Sarray. She was getting a push up until HHH got sick and the women division in general sinking and then not knowing what to do with her. Oh for sure, I am not faulting Triple H specifically, but "they" in my post was more about WWE in general, and fair or not, HBK's stuff still falls under his aegis when prospective hires have to figure out if it's for them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 6, 2023 17:04:17 GMT -5
I imagine they'd do a whole lot better by her than Sarray, but that... "run"... is probably going to cost them a lot of benefit of the doubt with some other women when it comes time to make offers. Asuka, Iyo, and Kairi have/had strong runs, but I am still astonished at the absolute indifference that went into their use of Sarray. Ehh.... Her Nxt run consisted of being a short intermission to break up Shayna's title reign of doom , and on the main roster she was Asuka's lackey. At the very end of her first MR run she had some nice matches but the bulk of it was just ok. I do agree she was underutilized, but I still think she ultimately had a respectable run and one which elevated her. Still, yeah, it could have, and should have been, more.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 7, 2023 6:03:31 GMT -5
By the sound of it, her current contract is up in March.
Giulia is a legitimate top name and someone who absolutely "gets" pro wrestling; she's top title material, wherever she winds up. Like with Kairi she's someone I'd be bummed to see go to WWE, since I want to keep watching her in promotions I follow, but her coming westward has always felt like a matter of time. There's a reason they put the NJPW Strong Women's belt on her, it gives her more matches out this way.
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Post by mistery on Nov 7, 2023 8:35:29 GMT -5
By the sound of it, her current contract is up in March. Giulia is a legitimate top name and someone who absolutely "gets" pro wrestling; she's top title material, wherever she winds up. Like with Kairi she's someone I'd be bummed to see go to WWE, since I want to keep watching her in promotions I follow, but her coming westward has always felt like a matter of time. There's a reason they put the NJPW Strong Women's belt on her, it gives her more matches out this way. Dave had some more info on her and WWE this morning, but some of the information seems really uh...suspect. He said that WWE has been interested in her since early 2019 which seems highly unlikely as she didn't even join STARDOM until late 2019, and wasn't on anyone's radar until that point. He also mentioned that there are at least four companies interested in her. He didn't specify who, but if I had to guess, it would be Bushiroad, WWE, AEW, and Impact. And of those four, WWE seems like the only real option if she wants to get paid a lot of money and wrestle regularly. The yen is in the toilet and only getting worse. Impact is still very much a C-Tier promotion and likely wouldn't be able to outbid any other company on the list. AEW is uh...well...AEW. Tony has the money to sign her, but she would likely be getting paid to sit in catering more often than not, because Tony doesn't seem to give a shit about the women. Dave mentioned she turned down WWE several times previously. But at the same time, this was likely before the TKO buyout, where Triple H basically now has infinite cash, and you have the joshi in very prominent positions. It's pretty telling that KAIRI is being advertised as the big hook for this Friday's Smackdown, even over Roman Reigns. And Giulia has been very open about how much she adores Iyo, and basically sees her as a god. And I know some of the more questionable accounts (Boozer is a good example) but still get things right from time to time have mentioned that Giulia is very much a highly sought after talent in WWE. Which is why I wouldn't be shocked if she gets the Dragon Lee treatment, if not better.
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Post by J is Justice on Nov 7, 2023 8:59:26 GMT -5
I hope Triple H is a Saki stan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 9:19:52 GMT -5
Really hope if IYO is indeed getting to lead her own Joshi faction she brings back hauling around a giant flag of the faction.
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