They are such a likeable group,and Iyo is easily superstar of the year but it just bothers me so much how the evil heels are portrayed as funny,cute and loyal to each other while we the fans should cheer faces like Charlotte and Becky who would happily stab their friends in the back.
Any wrestler that’s ever been a heel has these skeletons, I don’t know why that needs to be held over Flair and Lynch’s head like this. I mean, I could probably guess it has to do with win/loss records, that usually dictates how likeable a wrestler is for some reason.
Like, we’re gonna run into this problem when the Bayley face turn happens. She’s had a four year uninterrupted heel run to this point, a lot of people who don’t already like her like this thread does are gonna need an elevator pitch for this face turn that isn’t just cute social media posts.
They are such a likeable group,and Iyo is easily superstar of the year but it just bothers me so much how the evil heels are portrayed as funny,cute and loyal to each other while we the fans should cheer faces like Charlotte and Becky who would happily stab their friends in the back.
Any wrestler that’s ever been a heel has these skeletons, I don’t know why that needs to be held over Flair and Lynch’s head like this. I mean, I could probably guess it has to with win/loss records, that usually dictates how likeable a wrestler is for some reason.
Like, we’re gonna run into this problem when the Bayley face turn happens. She’s had a four year uninterrupted heel run to this point, a lot of people who don’t already like her like this thread does are gonna need an elevator pitch for this face turn that isn’t just cute social media posts.
I thought Becky was running out of steam as a heel (since the Belair feud went forever, and Becky's guest commentary involved her burying the other women in the ring), so it's good that Becky turned face when she did at last year's SummerSlam.
Also, the bond between Becky and Lyra on NXT seemed genuine.
I don't think of Charlotte or Becky as particularly being backstabbers. I'm sure they have in the past, but not the recent past.
As far as being a heel, Charlotte's heelness is based mostly on her being arrogant, and her abusing "special treatment". She rarely cheats. Rarely sneak attacks anyone. You'd have to go back a few years. Becky's heelness is that she's a bully. She's still kind of a bully as a face. Her thing is picking fights, but she usually does it to people's face. Becky also rarely cheats.
Damage CTRL may be adorable (with each other), but they have the worse HIStories in terms of heelness. Bayley is arrogant, a backstabber, and huge cheater. Has been that way for quite a while now. Asuka is completely untrustworthy. She has turned heel on people without any reason. She's a true chaotic neutral. Many of Asuka's big wins are a result of cheating. Bianca trusting her makes Bianca the DumbEST lol. IYO is weak and most of her wins a becasue she cheats. If she has a catch phrase, it's probably "I don't like you". Kairi even weaker than IYO, and most of her main roster she's portrayed as sneaky and a cheater. Dakota, a cheater and if you count her NXT HIStory, she's a big backstabber too.
I don't think of Charlotte or Becky as particularly being backstabbers. I'm sure they have in the past, but not the recent past.
As far as being a heel, Charlotte's heelness is based mostly on her being arrogant, and her abusing "special treatment". She rarely cheats. Rarely sneak attacks anyone. You'd have to go back a few years. Becky's heelness is that she's a bully. She's still kind of a bully as a face. Her thing is picking fights, but she usually does it to people's face. Becky also rarely cheats.
Damage CTRL may be adorable (with each other), but they have the worse HIStories in terms of heelness. Bayley is arrogant, a backstabber, and huge cheater. Has been that way for quite a while now. Asuka is completely untrustworthy. She has turned heel on people without any reason. She's a true chaotic neutral. Many of Asuka's big wins are a result of cheating. Bianca trusting her makes Bianca the DumbEST lol. IYO is weak and most of her wins a becasue she cheats. If she has a catch phrase, it's probably "I don't like you". Kairi even weaker than IYO, and most of her main roster she's portrayed as sneaky and a cheater. Dakota, a cheater and if you count her NXT HIStory, she's a big backstabber too.
While they may be cheaters KAIRI and IYO are the only ones to never backstab anyone my honorable beauties.....unless your name is Mayu Iwatani who gets betrayed by everyone and everything even baseballs have betrayed her.
No Candice does not count...IT WAS ALL CANDICE'S FAULT for being useless that drove Io wonderfully murderously insane in NXT when she first turned heel.
IYO's world wide tour of places she likes and does not like.
She hates houston.
But loves Las Vegas.
She only likes Vegas cos a kid got in the face by a puck/baseball/basketball whatever nah she likes it cos the owner of a casino was so scared of her that he GAVE her all the money the casino had even though she hadn't stepped foot inside
Seriously though, IYO's cool and looking forward to seeing more of her in 2024.
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter indicates WWE has “expressed interest in working with Stardom.” They make clear, however, that “nothing is finalized.”
So saw this rumor floating around the last two days or so.
This has been something that circled both for awhile...even going as far to try and outright buy them but with HHH in complete charge now and the changes the management in bushiroad and STARDOM with the new president this seems like more of a possbility now I could see happening.
And if so IMO it would be an absoloutle win for STARDOM...maybe get some of their talent in for a rumble spot.
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter indicates WWE has “expressed interest in working with Stardom.” They make clear, however, that “nothing is finalized.”
So saw this rumor floating around the last two days or so.
This has been something that circled both for awhile...even going as far to try and outright buy them but with HHH in complete charge now and the changes the management in bushiroad and STARDOM with the new president this seems like more of a possbility now I could see happening.
And if so IMO it would be an absoloutle win for STARDOM...maybe get some of their talent in for a rumble spot.
Also I am far from a knowledgeable person about the Joshi scene, but isn't Io/Iyo a person who commands a lot of respect among the wrestlers? If so, getting to work with her would be a hell of a carrot to dangle in front of some of the wrestlers in STARDOM.
I doubt anything major will come of it, but f*** it, I want a less insular wrestling scene. Open forbidden doors. Send NXT wrestlers on excursion or main roster people that have nothing better to do to compete in tournaments.
So saw this rumor floating around the last two days or so.
This has been something that circled both for awhile...even going as far to try and outright buy them but with HHH in complete charge now and the changes the management in bushiroad and STARDOM with the new president this seems like more of a possbility now I could see happening.
And if so IMO it would be an absoloutle win for STARDOM...maybe get some of their talent in for a rumble spot.
Also I am far from a knowledgeable person about the Joshi scene, but isn't Io/Iyo a person who commands a lot of respect among the wrestlers? If so, getting to work with her would be a hell of a carrot to dangle in front of some of the wrestlers in STARDOM.
I doubt anything major will come of it, but f*** it, I want a less insular wrestling scene. Open forbidden doors. Send NXT wrestlers on excursion or main roster people that have nothing better to do to compete in tournaments.
Yes. Iyo and Kairi are two of the most respected women in STARDOM. Giulia openly mentioned in an interview a year ago or so that she broke down into tears (of happiness) when she got to meet Iyo for the first time, as she was inspired by Iyo. And two of the best in ring performers in STARDOM (Starlight Kid and Momo Watanabe) are both Iyo's protégés.
I posted a full list in the wrest of wrestling section.
But congrats IYO on being the hardest working woman in WWE this year by having the most matches (including house shows) of any woman in WWE at 85.
HARDEST WORKING GENIUS OF THE SKY!
Pic of IYO standing with her belt: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU TAPED OVER THE VIDEO OF CATS JUMPING INTO BRICK WALLS!? Pic of IYO standing close to a plane: This is MY limousine bitches!
So saw this rumor floating around the last two days or so.
This has been something that circled both for awhile...even going as far to try and outright buy them but with HHH in complete charge now and the changes the management in bushiroad and STARDOM with the new president this seems like more of a possbility now I could see happening.
And if so IMO it would be an absoloutle win for STARDOM...maybe get some of their talent in for a rumble spot.
Also I am far from a knowledgeable person about the Joshi scene, but isn't Io/Iyo a person who commands a lot of respect among the wrestlers? If so, getting to work with her would be a hell of a carrot to dangle in front of some of the wrestlers in STARDOM.
I doubt anything major will come of it, but f*** it, I want a less insular wrestling scene. Open forbidden doors. Send NXT wrestlers on excursion or main roster people that have nothing better to do to compete in tournaments.
In short Io is pretty much a god amongst womens wrestlers but especially in STARDOM...she is THAT BITCH as they would say.
Like said very much respected so she doesn't just command respect but even further her prints have been all over STARDOM through its talent that she has mentored and trained and just those that have been inspired by her.
SLK AZM Giulia Utami MoMo
Just to name a few and is a literal whose who of STARDOMS top tier today were either again inspired , trained , mentored in some way by Io...Like they call Mayu the icon of STARDOM but Io IS STARDOM much like Tanahashi is NJPW , like every woman that came through stardom whether it was on an excursion etc have nothing but the most heaping praise for Io , those that only know her through WWE just don't know how important she was to the growth and putting STARDOM literally on the map for it to become what it is now.
And I take nothing away from Mayu and KAIRI because the daughters of STARDOM made the company.
Post by grungesmurf on Jan 7, 2024 19:12:50 GMT -5
That video is fantastic!!
Trust and hate, and love and fate, and I don't understand. Social grace, the human race, confuse me. These words I speak bring forth a world of emotions. Emotions of dreams lost, dreams found, and dreams I'll never see. So it is written. So it shall come to pass.
for being useless that drove Io wonderfully murderously insane in NXT when she first turned heel.
