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Post by J is Justice on Nov 13, 2023 22:01:45 GMT -5
There are so many boring women on the main roster. I don't how improved booking could make Raquel, Zoey, etc, interesting.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 13, 2023 22:02:08 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Ivar's been waiting in the ring all this time. Wondering when he can get back to filing taxes.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 13, 2023 22:02:56 GMT -5
See this is why WWE can't win with some people. (Generally speaking) One on hand I agree with you, but then people will argue "They aren't even trying with them!" If they aren't featured with top stars. Idk seems very contradictory imo Yeah, if you just have the unover women face each other, it's "great, one scrub beat another scrub, who cares?" but if you put them in the mix with the popular talent, it's "the scrub DOES NOT look like a threat whatsoever". Both things are kind of true though, but that's because of how booking has presented these women and the middle card of the division for years Like we're not even saying anything that doesn't seem to be reciprocated by the crowds... they don't give a shit right now about Xia, Indi, or Tegan week to week, and that sucks for them because WWE is trying, but I don't know what more they can do, if it's not clicking maybe try changing up their gimmicks a bit more?
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Post by zrowsdower on Nov 13, 2023 22:02:58 GMT -5
I hope Miz does multiple skull crushing finales on that talentless hack. And I also hope he beats Ivar too.
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Post by clc on Nov 13, 2023 22:02:59 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Ivar's been waiting in the ring all this time. He was mentally rehearsing his presentation on cash-based book keeping vs generally accepted accounting principals.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 13, 2023 22:03:18 GMT -5
There are so many boring women on the main roster. I don't how improved booking could make Raquel, Zoey, etc, interesting. Raquel should bring back the cowbell and eyepatch, or the motorcycle and Jason mask.
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Post by tenshi on Nov 13, 2023 22:03:21 GMT -5
Viking Hoss is getting in there...
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:00 GMT -5
The f*** was that?
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Post by tenshi on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:29 GMT -5
DEATH BY FUN SPLASH
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Post by fw91 on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:42 GMT -5
Why do they never mention Cole's past worship of Miz?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:50 GMT -5
it would kinda destroy the point of erik being on the roster but i'd be pretty tempted to have Ivar be his own thing from now on. ditch the whole valhalla deal, keep him as a viking if you must but he should be a singles guy. the team itself has zero heat
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 13, 2023 22:04:56 GMT -5
There are so many boring women on the main roster. I don't how improved booking could make Raquel, Zoey, etc, interesting. Raquel should bring back the cowbell and eyepatch, or the motorcycle and Jason mask. Mix and match. Gimme a girl with a cowbell and a Jason mask!
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Nov 13, 2023 22:05:40 GMT -5
it would kinda destroy the point of erik being on the roster but i'd be pretty tempted to have Ivar be his own thing from now on. ditch the whole valhalla deal, keep him as a viking if you must but he should be a singles guy. the team itself has zero heat Agreed. Plus why keep a guy who can't even spell his name right
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 13, 2023 22:06:13 GMT -5
Yeah, if you just have the unover women face each other, it's "great, one scrub beat another scrub, who cares?" but if you put them in the mix with the popular talent, it's "the scrub DOES NOT look like a threat whatsoever". Both things are kind of true though, but that's because of how booking has presented these women and the middle card of the division for years Like we're not even saying anything that doesn't seem to be reciprocated by the crowds... they don't give a shit right now about Xia, Indi, or Tegan week to week, and that sucks for them because WWE is trying, but I don't know what more they can do, if it's not clicking maybe try changing up their gimmicks a bit more? Too many women on the main roster don't have a character you could explain clearly and succinctly. You eventually need more depth beyond just "she's a cowgirl" or whatever your starting point is but in NXT, women like Tiffany, Kiana, and Lyra all have clearly defined gimmicks and personalities that will grow over time. The main roster needs more variety.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 13, 2023 22:06:22 GMT -5
MEATY MEN!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 22:07:04 GMT -5
See this is why WWE can't win with some people. (Generally speaking) One on hand I agree with you, but then people will argue "They aren't even trying with them!" If they aren't featured with top stars. Idk seems very contradictory imo No they're trying, and I commend them for that It's just not working, not as it stands, and with Xia in particular, idk if it's going to Sometimes you can try and it's just not really working out and the crowd is telling them flat out that they aren't interested right now as it stands, so maybe they'll keep trying and change some things up, but yeah right now Becky is spinning her wheels Her feud with Stratton was great, but Stratton has been booked well in NXT, and has been for awhile, that's a big difference it feels like Here is the issue and it is particular with Raw. Does anyone expect Xia to beat Becky? the anwser is of course not a chance. Does anyone expect anyone to beat Rhea before Mania? not a chance. There is a wall on Raw right now that wont actually start to come down presumeably till Mania and untill that changes there can be no real upward movement for the likes of Candice etc because like said it is just one goob the crowd does not care for fighting another one and not actually getting anything over on the top women on Raw.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 13, 2023 22:08:34 GMT -5
Why do they never mention Cole's past worship of Miz? Because most of that was against Daniel Bryan and he's no longer on the roster. That and Heel Cole died when Lawler had his heart attack over a decade ago.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Nov 13, 2023 22:08:42 GMT -5
No they're trying, and I commend them for that It's just not working, not as it stands, and with Xia in particular, idk if it's going to Sometimes you can try and it's just not really working out and the crowd is telling them flat out that they aren't interested right now as it stands, so maybe they'll keep trying and change some things up, but yeah right now Becky is spinning her wheels Her feud with Stratton was great, but Stratton has been booked well in NXT, and has been for awhile, that's a big difference it feels like Here is the issue and it is particular with Raw. Does anyone expect Xia to beat Becky? the anwser is of course not a chance. Does anyone expect anyone to beat Rhea before Mania? not a chance. There is a wall on Raw right now that wont actually start to come down presumeably till Mania and untill that changes there can be no real upward movement for the likes of Candice etc because like said it is just one goob the crowd does not care for fighting another one and not actually getting anything over on the top women on Raw. could say that for everyone across the board on the shows. wwe is still fun to watch sometimes sure but we've gotten so locked into "things can only happen at wrestlemania" that when you're objectively bad at creating tiny interpersonal feuds, it becomes a glaring issue!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 13, 2023 22:11:16 GMT -5
Miz doing the IT KICKS and actually getting the YES chant is really funny
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 13, 2023 22:11:58 GMT -5
Here is the issue and it is particular with Raw. Does anyone expect Xia to beat Becky? the anwser is of course not a chance. Does anyone expect anyone to beat Rhea before Mania? not a chance. There is a wall on Raw right now that wont actually start to come down presumeably till Mania and untill that changes there can be no real upward movement for the likes of Candice etc because like said it is just one goob the crowd does not care for fighting another one and not actually getting anything over on the top women on Raw. could say that for everyone across the board on the shows. wwe is still fun to watch sometimes sure but we've gotten so locked into "things can only happen at wrestlemania" that when you're objectively bad at creating tiny interpersonal feuds, it becomes a glaring issue! And sometimes even Mania's not guaranteed regarding Cody/Roman.
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