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Post by Legion on Nov 21, 2023 16:22:37 GMT -5
Drew's promo last night really highlighted how he genuinely has a point.
He has every right to be angry and not be ok with Jey Uso. All the points he made are spot on.
I like grey area heels like this, when they did it with Bret, it was the most interesting Bret ever war.
But given that crowd last night, I dont think it's quite over yet and runs the risk of just confusing audiences.
What say you? Clever story telling or confusing mess?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 21, 2023 16:26:07 GMT -5
In general I'd say on the face War Games team the only one of them who's a remotely sympathetic character is Cody.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 21, 2023 16:29:02 GMT -5
He has every right to be angry and not be ok with Jey Uso. All the points he made are spot on. Drew is just being a whiny bitch. Dude bottled it once again on PPV against Seth Rollins, and is blaming Jey for his own shortcomings. Not to mention that the dude had Jey Uso in a steel cage last year during that War Games match.
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Post by msc on Nov 21, 2023 17:09:07 GMT -5
I'll admit, when he said his fans knew he was right, I let out a "damn straight" in reply.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 21, 2023 17:20:47 GMT -5
Is there a cut-off point when you're supposed to stop caring about past actions? Because if you go far back enough you will find pretty much every character has committed horrible acts.
I mentioned it in some other post a few days ago but when Roman had just returned from cancer in 2019 he was attacked from behind and given a brutal beatdown from Drew to set up their Wrestlemania match. Then Drew spent months teaming with Shane and messing with Roman and other faces. So if you're going by past actions then Roman is surely well within his rights to screw over that guy for the rest of his life.
And I don't think Jey even appeared during the CATC match anyway. It was Solo who cost him.
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Post by ayumidah on Nov 21, 2023 17:25:17 GMT -5
He has every right to be angry and not be ok with Jey Uso. All the points he made are spot on. Drew is just being a whiny bitch. Dude bottled it once again on PPV against Seth Rollins, and is blaming Jey for his own shortcomings. Not to mention that the dude had Jey Uso in a steel cage last year during that War Games match. Which is exactly what Seth said he'd do, blame everyone else when he failed again lol
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Post by Fade on Nov 21, 2023 17:33:25 GMT -5
Nah, I love this shit, Haitch is giving the audience the benefit of the doubt. He’s not insulting them.
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Post by HIM on Nov 21, 2023 18:05:46 GMT -5
Nah while he has reasons, it's also an example of him not being an adult and learning to get over shit. It ain't like they killed someone. Him still whining about it is some teenager crap. We don't need to hear no grown ass man still upset about something like that.
It's like the equivalent of a girl's Sweet Sixteen party f***ing up. Yeah it sucks but shit you better not be complaining about that on and on and on again.
Drew right now is the definition of a whiny ass bitch. That ain't the same man who beat Lesnar. That's a 16 year old pissed that his crush taking someone else to the prom.
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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 21, 2023 18:21:25 GMT -5
I just dont like the bloodline so yeah I think Drew is justified lol
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Post by Andew9001 on Nov 21, 2023 18:31:51 GMT -5
Yeah he has a point. Jey Uso helped screw a lot of people over. If Cody and Sami and others want to forgive him and move past that then that's on them. Drew doesn't have to.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 21, 2023 19:14:38 GMT -5
Yeah he has a point. Jey Uso helped screw a lot of people over. If Cody and Sami and others want to forgive him and move past that then that's on them. Drew doesn't have to. Prior to kicking Beastie Boy in the face to eliminate him in the 2020 Royal Rumble, Drew spent his entire main roster run as a heel and committed a number of heinous acts. He doesn't have to forgive Jey, but instead of taking responsibility and moving forward, Drew is refusing to move on. Drew needs to toast a marshmellow and get on with his life.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 21, 2023 19:21:02 GMT -5
Drew is HIM. He said his justifications. The people changed not him. Jey Uso is a dirty stinking rotten hyena.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2023 19:28:06 GMT -5
Drew has a point. But also, Drew spent how long as Dolph, Shane, and Corbin's lap dog? What'd he ever do to make up for all the shit he did?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 21, 2023 19:29:17 GMT -5
He has every right to be angry and not be ok with Jey Uso. All the points he made are spot on. Drew is just being a whiny bitch. Dude bottled it once again on PPV against Seth Rollins, and is blaming Jey for his own shortcomings. Not to mention that the dude had Jey Uso in a steel cage last year during that War Games match. Plus, he’s directing his anger at the wrong guy, because it was Solo who done do the thing that Drew’s mad about.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Nov 21, 2023 19:40:02 GMT -5
In general I'd say on the face War Games team the only one of them who's a remotely sympathetic character is Cody. I don't know, Sami is kind of sympathetic in my view, as he's somebody who ultimately owned up to his responsibility for what he did in the Bloodline earlier this year, when he stood up for Kevin Owens against them knowing that they'd beat him into a thin paste for it. Now the way he's alienated Kevin Owens by accepting Jey almost immediately does blemish that a bit. Jey however... Yeah I don't really see much reason to sympathize with him. His reasons for leaving the Bloodline were purely selfish, he's never really owned up to his part in any of it, and ultimately ran away from his problems on Smackdown instead of facing them like a man now that he'd be facing the Bloodline on his own like everybody he beat down for the last two years.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 21, 2023 22:54:20 GMT -5
The problem with trying to deconstruct wrestling is that the whole thing is pretty flimsy at the end of the day. Pretty much everybody who’s ever been a heel then became a face does so without making it up to EVERYBODY they wronged.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 21, 2023 23:22:55 GMT -5
Is there a cut-off point when you're supposed to stop caring about past actions? Because if you go far back enough you will find pretty much every character has committed horrible acts. I mentioned it in some other post a few days ago but when Roman had just returned from cancer in 2019 he was attacked from behind and given a brutal beatdown from Drew to set up their Wrestlemania match. Then Drew spent months teaming with Shane and messing with Roman and other faces. So if you're going by past actions then Roman is surely well within his rights to screw over that guy for the rest of his life. And I don't think Jey even appeared during the CATC match anyway. It was Solo who cost him. It’s hilarious that, somehow, Miz is one of the more innocent people when you look at everyone’s history. Dude’s been a heel for fifteen years and he ranks below the entire face Wargames team in terms of historical evil, and also slightly below R-Truth. Ive wanted to do a thing where we rank everyone by their history of evil. We have a few attempted murderers in here, for example.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 21, 2023 23:45:14 GMT -5
Is there a cut-off point when you're supposed to stop caring about past actions? Because if you go far back enough you will find pretty much every character has committed horrible acts. I mentioned it in some other post a few days ago but when Roman had just returned from cancer in 2019 he was attacked from behind and given a brutal beatdown from Drew to set up their Wrestlemania match. Then Drew spent months teaming with Shane and messing with Roman and other faces. So if you're going by past actions then Roman is surely well within his rights to screw over that guy for the rest of his life. And I don't think Jey even appeared during the CATC match anyway. It was Solo who cost him. It’s hilarious that, somehow, Miz is one of the more innocent people when you look at everyone’s history. Dude’s been a heel for fifteen years and he ranks below the entire face Wargames team in terms of historical evil, and also slightly below R-Truth. Ive wanted to do a thing where we rank everyone by their history of evil. We have a few attempted murderers in here, for example. Hell, in THIS match we have Seth Rollins, who literally did NOTHING to turn babyface for his current run in that alignment. Sure, he never apologised to Rey Mysterio for ACTUALLY gouging his eye out with the steps, but hey we like a singsong so no need to hold him to task for that. F***, I’m surprised we haven’t found a way to blame Rey for it yet.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 22, 2023 0:21:49 GMT -5
A heel should always have some merit of truth and Drew has that
He's right he has been f***ed over BUT you cross that line when the truth becomes just you being a whiny bitch which is where he is trending. I like it. He has every right to be mad but he has also fallen short fair and square and using others as the blame for that. It works on all fronts
Drew is a heel but HHH likes his shades of grey characters and I like that they aren't treating the audience like idiots
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Post by schma on Nov 22, 2023 5:00:41 GMT -5
Drew is just being a whiny bitch. Dude bottled it once again on PPV against Seth Rollins, and is blaming Jey for his own shortcomings. Not to mention that the dude had Jey Uso in a steel cage last year during that War Games match. Plus, he’s directing his anger at the wrong guy, because it was Solo who done do the thing that Drew’s mad about. To be fair, Jey would totally have done the thing Solo did if he'd been allowed in the country.
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