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Post by darbus alan on Nov 22, 2023 22:17:49 GMT -5
Referees having negative IQ i mean that's not entirely a WWE Trope... If anything, show me the wrestling promotion where refs are consistently intelligent. Because I don't know of one that exists.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Nov 22, 2023 22:18:37 GMT -5
MitB briefcase holders trying to cash in and refs going "Are you cashing in, are you sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely positively sure you are cashing in."
I don't know if that's a trope or not but it's really tiresome that it always happens.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 22, 2023 22:46:39 GMT -5
Heel faction beatdowns to end a show
It's like 85% of show endings anymore...
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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 22, 2023 22:53:50 GMT -5
Entrance, then a million other things for 10-15 minutes, then the match with ten minutes left of the show
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 22, 2023 23:12:09 GMT -5
Heel faction beatdowns to end a show It's like 85% of show endings anymore... That’s another one that’s a whole of wrestling trope that needs to be dialled back on. Literally watched a Dynamite last week end up with one.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 23, 2023 0:52:04 GMT -5
Heel faction beatdowns to end a show It's like 85% of show endings anymore... That’s another one that’s a whole of wrestling trope that needs to be dialled back on. Literally watched a Dynamite last week end up with one. Yeah but the difference is Dynamite used it to lead into a PPV and then the next show MJF took one of the faction members out and kicked the shit out of the other two, I don't mind if it's done sometimes to get something across, I mind when it's how the show progresses for months with like no developments. RAW has Judgment Day Heat TM, Smackdown has Bloodline Heat TM. It happens on almost every show, complete on RAW with the fact that sometimes it opens with Judgment Day confrontation, and will end on a Judgment Day match and fallout I speak as someone who actually likes Judgment Day, it's really tiring and honestly really lazy how we had like Judgment Day vs some iteration of Sami, Cody, and Jey Uso for weeks at one point in RAW main events.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Nov 23, 2023 2:27:04 GMT -5
MITB winners cashing in on ailing opponents. It was fantastic when Edge did it since it played into his Ultimate Opportunist character, but everyone has done the same thing every year. I’d like to see more RVD situations where the babyface announces beforehand when and where he’s cashing in. This right here. Kills the moment when someone does cash in because of so many fake out (he never officially cashed it) moments. On a other note. "Rematch Clauses" is the most laziest way to keep a feud going. Like you legit could not think of ANYTHING?!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 23, 2023 8:18:19 GMT -5
MitB briefcase holders trying to cash in and refs going "Are you cashing in, are you sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely positively sure you are cashing in." I don't know if that's a trope or not but it's really tiresome that it always happens. Headcanon explanation 'You know I just clocked out when the bell rang' 'I am cashing in' 'That means I have to send this form to HR or I'm not allowed to ref two consecutive matches' 'Yes fine whatever' 'No you don't understand you have to do the form too or I won't get the overtime' 'YES SURE' 'Okay but make sure you bring a pen because I don't have one and also I can't read or count higher than 10. *turns to announcer* HE'S CASHING IN'
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Post by msc on Nov 23, 2023 10:23:47 GMT -5
From memory this years Rumbles had far less rest on the floor spots? Anyhow to defend a moment: Going under the top rope in the Rumble and taking a snooze outside. Come on. Every goddamn year. Give them a 10 count! Yeah, I don't mind the someone not in the match eliminating... as the wording of the rules is usually "go over the top rope" which they still do even if someone else pulls them / throws them / whatever... but the slide out of the ring and take a nap for 40 minutes is always terrible, and they do it in every battle royale... that said they've had the people that do that lose more recently... which is kinda worse? On the royal rumble... I don't mind the barricade or the table landing but some of things like... oh they landed on someone else... or the entire pancake nonsense is like way passed my point of acceptability... like why aren't everyone arguing that their feet never touched the floor because they're wearing SHOES! I'm fine with the pancakes, because the pancake wasn't the moment. The moment was Kofi leapfrogging from the floor a good 15 feet into the air and over the head of Jinder Mahal. If they're going to show us such a ludicrous bit of athleticism, I don't mind a daft gimmick in the set up. Preferred that much more than using a chair as a pogo stick.
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Post by clc on Nov 23, 2023 11:48:13 GMT -5
Contract signings - I hate this. Why do some matches need contract signings, but other matches Adam Pearce can just go out there and say, "get a ref you have a match right now"? In the same vein, Pearce not having a main event for his shows. Almost every week there is no set card, and matches are made on the spot without a contract. Contract signings would work back in the 80s when they presented the wrestlers as athletes that worked for themselves with their own representation, and the WWF was just the sanctioning body. Since the Attitude Era, when they pulled back the curtain and openly present everyone as an employee of Vince, contract signings make no sense.
People coming out for in-ring promos - I know this is a staple of wrestling since quite some time now, but I hate it! It does not happen in any other sport. I think promos should be done backstage, be prerecorded, or on show segments. If the promo happens in the ring, it should be set up as a post-match interview. Like after a boxing or MMA match the do an interview. South Park did the wrestling episode where they poked fun at this trope, but I guess no one picked up on it.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 23, 2023 12:37:09 GMT -5
MitB briefcase holders trying to cash in and refs going "Are you cashing in, are you sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely sure you're cashing in, are you absolutely positively sure you are cashing in." I don't know if that's a trope or not but it's really tiresome that it always happens.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Nov 23, 2023 12:42:54 GMT -5
let's all point at the WrestleMania sign
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Nov 23, 2023 12:46:29 GMT -5
Now Admittedly I haven't watched Raw for nearly 10 years now so I don't know if this is still a thing or not but when I watched it religiously back in the day The opening match always went the same way.
It would be an Athletic Babyface I.E Kofi Kingston.
Match starts and Babyface takes early advantage.. The Heel is either thrown out or rolls out of the ring by the entrance way.. Babyface does an over the top landing move on the heel and is in full control celebrating with the crowd. We then go to a commercial break, When we return the Heel is now winning usually with something like a chinlock in the middle of the ring.
Almost without fail.. Whilst the Face was dominating before the break you just knew the Heel would be winning when you returned.
Like I said It's been a long time since I watched Raw so it may not be the case anymore.. But it certainly was back in the day.
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Post by fg on Nov 23, 2023 14:15:16 GMT -5
How about when a dastardly heel puts themselves in comfortable situations against the faces like setting up tricks and plans to screw the baby face only when they turn face, they fall for the same tricks that they did when they were heels? It’s like “how could you not see that coming” especially when the wrestler is Ric Flair.
The only exceptions I guess are Eddie Guerrero, Batista and Steve Austin etc.
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Post by RI Richmark on Nov 23, 2023 14:18:19 GMT -5
Multi man matches where 2 or more people just happen to stand where someone is diving.
Also the Tower of London spot. Why would I try to compete a superplex when someone is trying to powerbomb me?
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 23, 2023 14:20:06 GMT -5
Heel faction beatdowns to end a show It's like 85% of show endings anymore... That’s another one that’s a whole of wrestling trope that needs to be dialled back on. Literally watched a Dynamite last week end up with one. Dynamite's been a lot better with this lately, though back in 2019 and 2020, it felt like there was a heel beatdowm to end the show every week.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 23, 2023 14:28:07 GMT -5
Babyface: "I know we have a match scheduled for the PPV but why wait for Sunday, let's do this right now!"
*Heel takes a few steps forward like he's going to fight then backs away and laughs as the crowd boos*
This situation must have happened 1000 times over the years.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 23, 2023 14:29:55 GMT -5
The stigma of a submission loss.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 23, 2023 14:48:54 GMT -5
That’s another one that’s a whole of wrestling trope that needs to be dialled back on. Literally watched a Dynamite last week end up with one. Dynamite's been a lot better with this lately, though back in 2019 and 2020, it felt like there was a heel beatdowm to end the show every week. A lot of the time what it feels like isn't even really the case either. Like recently I had a post showing all the episodes of Raw/SD in recent months and whether faces/heels stood tall to end each show and it was like 80% babyfaces but you still get comments at times like "omg heels getting the upper hand to end the show with heat yet again" despite it actually rarely ever happening. This week again faces stood tall to close both shows. A show going off the air with heels on top probably happens on average once a month but somehow we can think it's a lot more than that. It kinda reminds me of the "x wrestler stood tall on the go-home show so I'm 90% sure he's losing at the PPV." As long as I've been a fan a lot of people have always believed that to be the case but it's not really a feeling that numbers back up. I remember seeing like years worth of data comparing standing tall on the go-home show vs. then winning/losing at the PPV and it appeared to be completely random. There was absolutely no correlation but psychologically I think part of us still always thinks "oh the babyface got the upper hand here, he's probably losing on Sunday."
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Nov 23, 2023 14:50:22 GMT -5
This is a Tribute to the Tropes
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