Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 12, 2023 3:26:25 GMT -5
Who has the rights to the Golden Vampire, AEW or CM Punk? Because that was the most entertaining he's been this year.
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clifford
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Post by clifford on Dec 12, 2023 4:06:01 GMT -5
I know December is traditionally the dead month for WWE, but surely he's going to have a couple matches before the Royal Rumble? That was the best bit about his early days in AEW, he was just having matches with dudes up and down the roster week in week out, getting back in to his rhythm. A lot of these 'ah this Punk sucks, these promos suck' takes would go away if we could get him in the ring.
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Chuck Conry
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Post by Chuck Conry on Dec 12, 2023 4:45:05 GMT -5
I do wonder if Punk vs Rollins is Mania now then who would have gotten the slot before? Maybe Drew assumed him and that's why he might have been pissy originally.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Dec 12, 2023 5:33:07 GMT -5
I thought the segment was great, yeah it was a paint by numbers returning babyface Punk promo but that is probably the best Rollins promo I've ever seen. Admittedly I have missed a lot of his promos but that's usually because I don't buy what he is selling.
They definitely planted the seeds here for a double turn at Mania (assuming Rollins leans towards the heel side in the build) and I am here for it.
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Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 12, 2023 5:34:33 GMT -5
I do wonder if Punk vs Rollins is Mania now then who would have gotten the slot before? Maybe Drew assumed him and that's why he might have been pissy originally. I doubt that Rollins vs McIntyre would have been the main event of night one if that was the match planned for 'mania before Punk showed up.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 12, 2023 6:04:54 GMT -5
I love Seth but he's massively outclassed by Punk on the mic and he was here too. I really hope this feud brings him promos to the next level.
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Post by chronocross on Dec 12, 2023 6:07:37 GMT -5
Looks like Punk is going to win the Rumble and main event night 1 of Wrestlemania, more than likely against Seth.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Dec 12, 2023 6:18:01 GMT -5
I do wonder if Punk vs Rollins is Mania now then who would have gotten the slot before? Maybe Drew assumed him and that's why he might have been pissy originally. I doubt that Rollins vs McIntyre would have been the main event of night one if that was the match planned for 'mania before Punk showed up. I'm not saying main event. Just be the world title match had Punk not came back. I assume the main event of night one before would probably be Becky vs Rhea but not now.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 12, 2023 6:54:31 GMT -5
i can get over judging his on screen character with the backstage stuff but is this not just kind of boring? like diet shasta cm punk? I hope it's intentional and he's turning heel because he currently comes off even faker than Boyhood Dream era HBK. People said the same thing about him in AEW.Even before Collision
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Post by SneakMan on Dec 12, 2023 7:33:00 GMT -5
Didn't watch the segment last night and don't plan to but yeah, it's 50/50 whether "disingenuous face Phil" is an actual story beat or just how he actually is these days.
I genuinely believed the dude was building up to a massive heel turn during his first AEW run, and it turned out he's just a prick who is incredibly gotten-to.
Then I had other people swearing during his second run that, in spite of him getting the post-show "thanks for coming, everybody!" promo at the Collision I went to, that he was turning heel for real this time. And it turned out he's just a prick who is incredibly gotten-to.
And here we are again. The only thing that gives me pause to think it might be a storyline this time is that Phil is back to being a cog in a machine and doesn't have a boss who'll chant his name in the Gorilla Position.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 12, 2023 7:54:06 GMT -5
I think they will turn Punk heel. Punk is still gonna be going against Seth. He's gonna be going against Triple H's top guy for over a decade. And if Punk has to be in WWE, the story is better if Punk is a heel.
Think about it, Punk goes heel, aligns himself with Heyman again (there's a lot of money in a face run of the Tribal Chief) and starts getting some backup (I suggest Bron as his number 1, sets Bron up in a big story and Bron vs Roman is set). Seth and Roman reunite, they get some people to join them. And one year since Punk returned, it's War Games between a reunited Shield (obviously without Moxley) and their guys against Punk and his crew. Seth and Roman's team wins. They've been the 2 guys that have carried the load for the last decade of WWE. Throughout it all, people booing them as faces, injuries, Leukemia, and bad storylines, they've been the main two carrying the company for the last decade.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 12, 2023 8:51:45 GMT -5
It's funny how in kayfabe Seth is the guy most angry about Punk returning but in reality he should be the happiest. Without Punk returning I think Roman/Cody obviously main event night 2 and I think Rhea/Becky main event night 1. Unless something caught Sami Zayn level fire like last year I think the Women's title main events night 1 and I don't see Seth v Drew, Damien or whatever it would have been reaching that level.
Punk though immediately gives Seth a Mania main event level feud and he's been desperate to go on last at Mania for years (he's said he doesn't really count 2015 since he wasn't advertised ahead of time).
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Dec 12, 2023 9:30:14 GMT -5
I don’t know why Punk thinks he’s home. I don’t see six different kids named after Ian MacKaye running around
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 12, 2023 11:32:16 GMT -5
It's funny how in kayfabe Seth is the guy most angry about Punk returning but in reality he should be the happiest. Without Punk returning I think Roman/Cody obviously main event night 2 and I think Rhea/Becky main event night 1. Unless something caught Sami Zayn level fire like last year I think the Women's title main events night 1 and I don't see Seth v Drew, Damien or whatever it would have been reaching that level. Punk though immediately gives Seth a Mania main event level feud and he's been desperate to go on last at Mania for years (he's said he doesn't really count 2015 since he wasn't advertised ahead of time). Seth wants this and he deep down wanted it for years. Even that “stay away you cancer” promo was Kayfabing it a bit. Seth would tweet in support of Punk when he first started, and he was pushing for the match when Punk was on that Fox show
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Post by BlahBlah on Dec 12, 2023 14:00:02 GMT -5
I hope it's intentional and he's turning heel because he currently comes off even faker than Boyhood Dream era HBK. this is worse than the collision shit where he was trying to act face man. like... putting aside my own perceived shit of him, this is an insanely boring and fake ass character. i guess people are buying it but i don't see how, he is straight up nyquil out there. People are buying it because the vast majority of fans aren't comparing his current work to his AEW run. Most of the posts disliking what he's doing in WWE reference his work in AEW and how this is redundant and he's lost his fastball etc. WWE fans are just happy to have him back, most didn't catch a second of him on Collison and are viewing him unencumbered.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 12, 2023 14:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Dec 12, 2023 14:09:15 GMT -5
Who could have seen this coming? Anyone with any WBD connect been talking about this for months? Can lead a horse to water...
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Fade
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Post by Fade on Dec 12, 2023 14:09:55 GMT -5
Does he still go by one bill Phil or
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 12, 2023 14:11:46 GMT -5
Don’t know the accuracy but someone on the F4W boards said that Triple H and Khan met with WBD the day after Survivor Series.
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Post by khali on Dec 12, 2023 14:21:05 GMT -5
If Dave is really implying it’s WBD, this is horrifically bad news for the wrestling industry.
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