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Post by xCompackx on Dec 27, 2023 19:10:09 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. I mean, Jack Perry is the dude who ran him out of the company so literally anybody could trigger it.
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Post by booty on Dec 27, 2023 20:41:18 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. Imagine if Matt Riddle was still around.
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Post by The Warthog on Dec 27, 2023 21:22:24 GMT -5
If Pepsi Phil turns into Fat Mac in his last run I might consider watching WWE again. Cultivating Mass Punk I'm not fat, Seth! I'm cultivating mass so I can better protect Paddy's Pub the RAW roster from threats!
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Post by The Warthog on Dec 27, 2023 21:24:05 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. Would be interested if we get Phil tearing down Paul for the fraud that he is. Make it a shoot,brother!
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 27, 2023 21:32:27 GMT -5
Before Punk got shooty and implemented that into his gimmick in 2011 to 2014.
I think kayfabe Punk was actually his better work from 2006-2011.
Especially that Straight Edge Society stuff. Being an evil goofball heel like cult guy is probably his best work in his entire WWE run.
More silly kayfabe and less shoot for this run please.
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Post by john84 on Dec 27, 2023 22:58:42 GMT -5
Doubt it myself especially since I haven't heard anything concrete about AJ wanting to go back into the ring but it'd be cool to see her again. Even leaving AJ aside entirely, haven’t Seth & Becky said they weren’t huge fans of the whole “Man’s Man” time period? It’s been almost 5 years and they’ve never gone anywhere near that well again. Yeah, I remember something about that as well. Becky and Seth sure didn't seem comfortable with the storyline when they were feuding with Corbin/Evans back in the day.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Dec 28, 2023 9:49:11 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. My money's on him wrestling Gunther, his body literally crumbling to dust right there in the ringand then him going completely off the rails in the aftermath.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 28, 2023 10:19:06 GMT -5
Even leaving AJ aside entirely, haven’t Seth & Becky said they weren’t huge fans of the whole “Man’s Man” time period? It’s been almost 5 years and they’ve never gone anywhere near that well again. Yeah, I remember something about that as well. Becky and Seth sure didn't seem comfortable with the storyline when they were feuding with Corbin/Evans back in the day. To be fair, both were white hot coming off huge title wins at Mania and they were then given an absolutely heatless Baron Corbin and green as grass and not even remotely over Lacey Evans as their first feuds
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Post by schma on Dec 28, 2023 10:49:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember something about that as well. Becky and Seth sure didn't seem comfortable with the storyline when they were feuding with Corbin/Evans back in the day. To be fair, both were white hot coming off huge title wins at Mania and they were then given an absolutely heatless Baron Corbin and green as grass and not even remotely over Lacey Evans as their first feuds And those feuds lasted something like 5 months on top of it.
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Post by Fade on Dec 28, 2023 11:05:40 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. Imagine if Matt Riddle was still around. *Riddle smoking a joint outside near a production truck* Punk: so this is what you do huh Matt
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Post by Dub H on Dec 28, 2023 11:11:00 GMT -5
The funniest part of the night was Saxton interviewing a 10 year old fan right at the end of the intermission and asked him "who is your favorite superstar of all time?" and the kid thought about it and said "Edge" and Byron quickly moved on. Not Pictured: The Kid being taken to a reeducation center full of John Cena and Roman Reigns merch and matches
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 28, 2023 11:39:53 GMT -5
I think kayfabe Punk was actually his better work from 2006-2011. CM Punk was so much better doing character work than when he was tearing up the 4th wall, his Straight Edge Saviour gimmick was the best character work he had ever done IMO. His feud with Trips and Kevin Nash was absolutely awful due party to the constant breaking of kayfabe.
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Post by mc74 on Dec 28, 2023 12:11:30 GMT -5
Before Punk got shooty and implemented that into his gimmick in 2011 to 2014. I think kayfabe Punk was actually his better work from 2006-2011. Especially that Straight Edge Society stuff. Being an evil goofball heel like cult guy is probably his best work in his entire WWE run. More silly kayfabe and less shoot for this run please. SES Punk is my favorite version of him. Punk's best work comes when he's not doing the worked shoot nonsense.
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Post by mc74 on Dec 28, 2023 13:12:33 GMT -5
I think kayfabe Punk was actually his better work from 2006-2011. CM Punk was so much better doing character work than when he was tearing up the 4th wall, his Straight Edge Saviour gimmick was the best character work he had ever done IMO. His feud with Trips and Kevin Nash was absolutely awful due party to the constant breaking of kayfabe. Agreed with his 2011 run suffering thanks to poor booking. I enjoyed some parts of his run with the WWE title up until Rock announced in the summer of 2012 he was challenging for the title at the 2013 Royal Rumble. That took the wind out of everything else because you knew Punk was going to be the placeholder until Rock won the title from him.
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Post by khali on Dec 28, 2023 15:17:14 GMT -5
If it does end in tears in a highly predictable fashion I put my money on Logan Paul being involved somehow. He and Punk are going to mix like oil and water. I mean, Jack Perry is the dude who ran him out of the company so literally anybody could trigger it. Punk even once said “if you have a problem with Jungle Boy, you’re the problem” on TV!
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 30, 2023 17:44:13 GMT -5
Hope he brings this gear back for this return. It was FIRE!
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 30, 2023 18:00:33 GMT -5
Hope he brings this gear back for this return. It was FIRE! I’ll wager he will. Seems to be on a pretty big Bret Hart kick at the moment.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 30, 2023 19:14:37 GMT -5
Had a lot of time to think on this, now five weeks have passed and I can finally compile my thoughts for yet another CM Punk megathread. Here's my conclusion... CM Punk is a major f***ing hypocrite. After years of torching this place, even as far as a year and a half ago calling it "The place that got me sick in the first place", to go BACK, because he ran out of options and exposed to the world who he really is, and then still got everything he wanted, and did it AGAIN, he went crawling back through the supplicants entrance, and made, quite frankly, a pathetic comeback speech where he proclaimed he was "Home", where you could see through it harder then a freshly cleaned window. I get the moment was huge for some people, I also get that CM Punk has money feuds that people will care about in WWE. Me however? A longtime Punk fan? Someone who actually defended him and gave him the benefit of the doubt in AEW? Ask anyone here, they'll tell you I did that until I just f***ing couldn't anymore, because this is who CM Punk is, I frankly could have done without ever seeing this dude in a professional wrestling ring again, It's not good for wrestling, at least as far as fandom is concerned, to me personally. CM Punk in WWE is the exact opposite of what wrestling discourse needed right now. Because now, it is chock full of a bunch of people (Not here, just online) who will lord this over AEW or its dying and proclaim it their "Biggest mistake" to "Let him go" and "Choose the no drawing Bucks and Jack Perry over a real star" and just wish for their precious monopoly to return and put this guy on the soapbox of never having to suffer any consequences for their very real actions. It's quite frankly dumped cyanide into an already poisoned well and enabled the absolute worst people to puff out their chests and proclaim they were "right all along", especially when Punk likes to give shitheads in Louisville a platform. I digress, when it comes to FAN and this rhetoric, most people are in agreement about what CM Punk is at this point and the state of affairs since he left one company and entered another. There are some who still love the guy and want to see how stuff plays out, again, I get it, that was me for a very long time, until I simply couldn't ignore this dude's problems anymore. I hope he has a good storytelling and wrestling run in WWE, and if he doesn't? No one is actually going to be surprised that's been paying attention, but hey good news to Roman, his albatross of a world title reign isn't my most loathed aspect of WWE anymore, it's any time this dude shows up and acts like he wants to be here, when he doesn't. He had it all, everything he wanted, and he blew it, and no self-aware meta storyline with Seth Rollins is going to make any of that any better. But at least Punk will get to main event night one of the buy one get one free extravaganza huh? Anyway, where the heck are the Muffins? Come on, I'm starving here!
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 30, 2023 19:26:40 GMT -5
Had a lot of time to think on this, now five weeks have passed and I can finally compile my thoughts for yet another CM Punk megathread. Here's my conclusion... CM Punk is a major f***ing hypocrite. After years of torching this place, even as far as a year and a half ago calling it "The place that got me sick in the first place", to go BACK, because he ran out of options and exposed to the world who he really is, and then still got everything he wanted, and did it AGAIN, he went crawling back through the supplicants entrance, and made, quite frankly, a pathetic comeback speech where he proclaimed he was "Home", where you could see through it harder then a freshly cleaned window. I get the moment was huge for some people, I also get that CM Punk has money feuds that people will care about in WWE. Me however? A longtime Punk fan? Someone who actually defended him and gave him the benefit of the doubt in AEW? Ask anyone here, they'll tell you I did that until I just f***ing couldn't anymore, because this is who CM Punk is, I frankly could have done without ever seeing this dude in a professional wrestling ring again, It's not good for wrestling, at least as far as fandom is concerned, to me personally. CM Punk in WWE is the exact opposite of what wrestling discourse needed right now. Because now, it is chock full of a bunch of people (Not here, just online) who will lord this over AEW or its dying and proclaim it their "Biggest mistake" to "Let him go" and "Choose the no drawing Bucks and Jack Perry over a real star" and just wish for their precious monopoly to return and put this guy on the soapbox of never having to suffer any consequences for their very real actions. It's quite frankly dumped cyanide into an already poisoned well and enabled the absolute worst people to puff out their chests and proclaim they were "right all along", especially when Punk likes to give shitheads in Louisville a platform. I digress, when it comes to FAN and this rhetoric, most people are in agreement about what CM Punk is at this point and the state of affairs since he left one company and entered another. There are some who still love the guy and want to see how stuff plays out, again, I get it, that was me for a very long time, until I simply couldn't ignore this dude's problems anymore. I hope he has a good storytelling and wrestling run in WWE, and if he doesn't? No one is actually going to be surprised that's been paying attention, but hey good news to Roman, his albatross of a world title reign isn't my most loathed aspect of WWE anymore, it's any time this dude shows up and acts like he wants to be here, when he doesn't. He had it all, everything he wanted, and he blew it, and no self-aware meta storyline with Seth Rollins is going to make any of that any better. But at least Punk will get to main event night one of the buy one get one free extravaganza huh? Anyway, where the heck are the Muffins? Come on, I'm starving here! Welcome back, cjb.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 30, 2023 20:22:25 GMT -5
Had a lot of time to think on this, now five weeks have passed and I can finally compile my thoughts for yet another CM Punk megathread. Here's my conclusion... CM Punk is a major f***ing hypocrite. After years of torching this place, even as far as a year and a half ago calling it "The place that got me sick in the first place", to go BACK, because he ran out of options and exposed to the world who he really is, and then still got everything he wanted, and did it AGAIN, he went crawling back through the supplicants entrance, and made, quite frankly, a pathetic comeback speech where he proclaimed he was "Home", where you could see through it harder then a freshly cleaned window. I get the moment was huge for some people, I also get that CM Punk has money feuds that people will care about in WWE. Me however? A longtime Punk fan? Someone who actually defended him and gave him the benefit of the doubt in AEW? Ask anyone here, they'll tell you I did that until I just f***ing couldn't anymore, because this is who CM Punk is, I frankly could have done without ever seeing this dude in a professional wrestling ring again, It's not good for wrestling, at least as far as fandom is concerned, to me personally. CM Punk in WWE is the exact opposite of what wrestling discourse needed right now. Because now, it is chock full of a bunch of people (Not here, just online) who will lord this over AEW or its dying and proclaim it their "Biggest mistake" to "Let him go" and "Choose the no drawing Bucks and Jack Perry over a real star" and just wish for their precious monopoly to return and put this guy on the soapbox of never having to suffer any consequences for their very real actions. It's quite frankly dumped cyanide into an already poisoned well and enabled the absolute worst people to puff out their chests and proclaim they were "right all along", especially when Punk likes to give shitheads in Louisville a platform. I digress, when it comes to FAN and this rhetoric, most people are in agreement about what CM Punk is at this point and the state of affairs since he left one company and entered another. There are some who still love the guy and want to see how stuff plays out, again, I get it, that was me for a very long time, until I simply couldn't ignore this dude's problems anymore. I hope he has a good storytelling and wrestling run in WWE, and if he doesn't? No one is actually going to be surprised that's been paying attention, but hey good news to Roman, his albatross of a world title reign isn't my most loathed aspect of WWE anymore, it's any time this dude shows up and acts like he wants to be here, when he doesn't. He had it all, everything he wanted, and he blew it, and no self-aware meta storyline with Seth Rollins is going to make any of that any better. But at least Punk will get to main event night one of the buy one get one free extravaganza huh? Anyway, where the heck are the Muffins? Come on, I'm starving here! I think the part about him acting like he wants to be in WWE when he doesn’t is the part I disagree with most. Even in the Cabana podcast, you could tell he was surprised and upset they didn’t come to him about coming back after he left. And then it was widely reported that he was looking to come back around the time that he did the FS1 Backstage show and ultimately ended up going to AEW instead because Vince was not interested (even with FOX apparently pushing heavily for Punk). And then it was Meltzer that reported that Punk was trying to get back into WWE after Brawl Out (if he was able to get his release from AEW). So I think this is exactly where Punk actually does want to be because he always considered AEW and its stars that were not made men in WWE second-rate. That was a big part of his problem.
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