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Post by yokohamacpfc on Nov 28, 2023 20:06:37 GMT -5
So I'm not sure if this is brought up yet. But should he be a part-timer and special attraction or do you want him to appear on every Raw throughout his deal? With the way he's been the last few years, it could be diminishing returns if he appears weekly. I think him floating in and out but on a more frequent than Edge basis would work. Part-timer if his recent injury run is anything to go by would definitely be best. Wait and see what his actual appearance thing is going to be though I guess. As well as injuries a lot was made of how haggard and aged he looked in AEW. He looked a lot healthier on Raw. I suspect he suffers from insomnia or has irregular sleeping patterns while on the road. It might make him irritable and (partly) explain his poor attitude.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Nov 28, 2023 20:21:04 GMT -5
So do you want to hear Vince Russo's thoughts on Raw? No...? Well too bad... "What I would have done, bro, you’ve got a guy coming back to WWE after a 10-year hiatus. You gotta go to everybody in the back and let them shoot with how they really feel. That’s what you gotta do throughout the entire show," MAKE IT A SHOOT BRO! Which you probably could guess.... Oh Christ I hate to do this but *deep breath* I see where Russo's coming from. Punk's return overshadowed Orton's return, overshadowed the main event, everything, that was the point of the cliffhanger. So to some degree, there's merit in the idea of having some backstage interviewer character running round asking everyone's thoughts on this landscape changin moment that overshadowed all of Survivor Series. They don't really have an interviewer with enough of a big personality for it now but like Brad Maddox, or Hurricane Helms, only maybe less gimmicky. Nosey parker running round asking the roster their thoughts, everyone gives a pre-approved but not meticulously scripted answer that feels mostly kayfabe, but then you have a couple guys just blowing it off or actively ducking the question. Maybe they weren't here when Punk was so it's irrelevant to them. Maybe they're Randy Orton and have other things on their mind. Maybe they're Cody or Seth or Miz who've said things, or been the victim of things said, involving Punk and you have ONE, just ONE of them, give a worked-shoot answer that feels actually like they went off script a little ala Page/Punk or Moxley/Punk. Come the end of the show after this handful of 30 second voxpops throughout, Punk comes out, cuts the same AW SHUCKS YOU GUYS promo with the same "Im here to make money" deadeyed off mic end line, you leak some stuff that he's mad at whatever worked shoot comment was made. Yeah it's corny and shlocky but wrestling LIVES on sleazy shlock and gossip. Look how much attention EVERY Punk segment since Brawl In, whether AEW or WWE, got. Look how much people came out to bat for Jack Perry over it all. Russo's wrong 99% of the time and pushes everything too far 100% of the time, but kayfabe and reality blurring, worked shoot buzz can get very over if done right and is what got Punk over in 2011 and made him a big star, so I can see the merit in a "is this kayfabe or shoot" vox-pop series throughout the return show.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 28, 2023 20:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 28, 2023 20:37:03 GMT -5
So do you want to hear Vince Russo's thoughts on Raw? No...? Well too bad... "What I would have done, bro, you’ve got a guy coming back to WWE after a 10-year hiatus. You gotta go to everybody in the back and let them shoot with how they really feel. That’s what you gotta do throughout the entire show," MAKE IT A SHOOT BRO! Which you probably could guess.... “I was 16 when Punk was here last. I had a math test the next day after he walked out!! I stayed up all night looking for info. I failed that math test. That’s what lead me to a life of crime!” Dominic Mysterio
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Post by HIM on Nov 28, 2023 20:38:30 GMT -5
Some fans be taking this wrestling shit too seriously. I just saw a video of a dude burning his AEW Punk shirt. Come on now man. Donate that shit.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2023 20:39:25 GMT -5
These were actually the last graphics he used during his WWE run (on the LED boards on the side of the tron), which is how you actually know it came together last minute.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 28, 2023 20:46:35 GMT -5
He just looks old and worn out.
And that he works with children.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 28, 2023 21:22:06 GMT -5
I can see why they brought him back now and not Rumble season.
More time to build up buzz for him being in the new game.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Nov 28, 2023 21:50:22 GMT -5
Realistically I think WWE has the mindset of lets just sell some t-shirts, and maybe, just maybe we can make some magic happen. I bought the T-shirt, so feel free to blame me a little haha.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 28, 2023 21:58:30 GMT -5
Realistically I think WWE has the mindset of lets just sell some t-shirts, and maybe, just maybe we can make some magic happen. I bought the T-shirt, so feel free to blame me a little haha. If they make enough from merch, games, toys, etc... it could pretty much pay for his entire deal. So that's a plus for the company.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 28, 2023 22:09:46 GMT -5
Realistically I think WWE has the mindset of lets just sell some t-shirts, and maybe, just maybe we can make some magic happen. I bought the T-shirt, so feel free to blame me a little haha. If they make enough from merch, games, toys, etc... it could pretty much pay for his entire deal. So that's a plus for the company. I’m gonna guess Punk is on the high side of the $3-5 million range plus a higher than most merchandise deal. Let’s say he makes $10 mil. in a year, I don’t think WWE has a hard time making that back off his name. Dude is one of the biggest merch movers in wrestling
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Nov 28, 2023 23:12:15 GMT -5
I hope after the tail end of this run where he gets all the title runs and big feuds finished with. Give him a run in NXT, in this environment booked by HBK, he could be pretty good. Dude is not going to want to do anything on NXT. Aside from a one off appearance in NXT, It's going to be the main roster or nothing at all. only time he'd show up on NXT is if they want to frontload it again on the off chance they compete against Dynamite, or on the first NXT on CW.
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Post by Stu on Nov 28, 2023 23:35:20 GMT -5
Is Punk cool with Xavier Woods? Wonder if he'd show up on UpUpDownDown.
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Post by Fade on Nov 29, 2023 0:11:32 GMT -5
Realistically I think WWE has the mindset of lets just sell some t-shirts, and maybe, just maybe we can make some magic happen. I bought the T-shirt, so feel free to blame me a little haha. If they make enough from merch, games, toys, etc... it could pretty much pay for his entire deal. So that's a plus for the company. Yea but ya would think Hunter would want it to be good and received well. It might be a city by city thing with punk. Moxley’s the best..he should watch it. They better script his ass at times and figure out the character.
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Post by Perd on Nov 29, 2023 0:33:28 GMT -5
Slowly, over time, I’d have Punk be revealed as the disingenuous, gun-for-hire that he is. Have him be a total stooge of a teacher's pet. The exact opposite of everything he’s ever claimed to be. I guess make him a bit like Alliance Stone Cold. Hell, depending on if he’s interested, it could be a SCSA ass whipping that makes Punk snap out of it
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 29, 2023 0:44:31 GMT -5
I hope after the tail end of this run where he gets all the title runs and big feuds finished with. Give him a run in NXT, in this environment booked by HBK, he could be pretty good. Dude is not going to want to do anything on NXT. Aside from a one off appearance in NXT, It's going to be the main roster or nothing at all. The only way I'd see him doing an appearance on NXT is if he does something with Cora. That said, keep him the f*** away from the fun happy goofy horny show.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 29, 2023 1:18:40 GMT -5
Part of the problem is and it's one of the reason Jon Stewart says he left the Daily Show...Jon says something huge would happen in the world and people were starting to look to him to say something poignant and interesting and entertaining and you can't always do that.
That said, really seems like WWE and Punk took a knee here and ran out the clock. They had Punk go on last, with almost no time left, say nothing and off air. Apparently, he got his time cut because Orton and Dom ran long, which, well, that's just another reason Punk should have opened the show and attempted to capture the audience.
I said earlier in the thread that I was tuning in for Punk, a friend was. We both turned it off because it was same old boring Raw, so they just killed whatever new audience they could have captured. I'll record next time Punk is on, see where's going and continue not following the product except for the very few segments that interest me.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Nov 29, 2023 5:20:57 GMT -5
Slowly, over time, I’d have Punk be revealed as the disingenuous, gun-for-hire that he is. Have him be a total stooge of a teacher's pet. The exact opposite of everything he’s ever claimed to be. I guess make him a bit like Alliance Stone Cold. Hell, depending on if he’s interested, it could be a SCSA ass whipping that makes Punk snap out of it I didn't think this would happen in AEW because Punk obviously thinks he's in the right and people are still cheering him. So I don't think he's going to go 'actually I am really an asshole sellout. All that was my fault. Boo me'. I don't think he'll do that in WWE either. But then, he shouldn't need to. There are more stories to be told than worked shoots and him being a heel to get his comeuppance for things people don't like about him in real life. Jericho has reinvented himself 4/5 times and none of it was to do with anything off-screen.
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Post by pinja on Nov 29, 2023 8:10:14 GMT -5
WWE should have gone to everybody in the back to ask them what a Mussolini is.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Nov 29, 2023 9:16:10 GMT -5
No. I shared it from a sub reddit. Did I post it to the wrong thread or not properly site where it came from? It just seems you dropped the link right after it was posted on Reddit so I was wondering if perhaps you made it. No disrespect intended, just like to celebrate the board's members' creative endeavors. I'm personally blaming you for Bright now Chaz, I hope you're happy with what you've done
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