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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 2, 2023 4:04:34 GMT -5
The two that spring to mind were the mutton chops and the attempt at Wolverine. Both were horrendous. wasn't the Wolverine because he desperately wanted people to think of him vs. Brock as Hulk Vs Wolverine?
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Post by schma on Dec 2, 2023 4:10:43 GMT -5
The two that spring to mind were the mutton chops and the attempt at Wolverine. Both were horrendous. wasn't the Wolverine because he desperately wanted people to think of him vs. Brock as Hulk Vs Wolverine? I honestly have no idea, I just remember it looked terrible.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 2, 2023 10:20:25 GMT -5
I still think Straight Edge Society Punk was his best look
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 2, 2023 13:07:05 GMT -5
Last night kinda gave them an opening to explain him immediately getting a shot at Seth. He can say to Pearce "you offered Orton a title shot if he signed for Raw so give me the same offer or I'll go to Smackdown too." And it can further piss Rollins off and add to his "Punk is a hypocrite" stance that this outsider waltzes back in after a decade and gets a title shot. The exact thing Punk complained about Rock doing back when he was champ.
Or if they want to acknowledge AEW kayfabe then kinda reference he was undefeated world champion and their top guy who basically beat everyone and the few matches he did lose (MJF, Moxley, Starks) he immediately avenged them and came out on top.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Dec 2, 2023 14:53:48 GMT -5
I still think Straight Edge Society Punk was his best look Playing a character as opposed to Phil Brooks is where he's most interesting. Doesn't have to be SES (though factions are back) but the Borderline-Shooting "Rebel" has to end. It made sense for AEW and that environment but it would've gotten old even there.
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Post by papagiorgio on Dec 3, 2023 12:18:14 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 3, 2023 12:36:25 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. I mean let’s be real, wwe treated Punk like a king
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Post by fw91 on Dec 3, 2023 13:01:11 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. I know its not really that simple, but it's almost like Cody and Punk used AEW as leverage to what they really wanted- Wrestlemania main events in WWE.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 3, 2023 13:07:57 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. He was on Renee's podcast around 2019-20 and I don't know if he had caught the wrestling bug again or really needed the money but it was very obvious he was now open to returning and was practically begging for a contract offer. His tone had completely shifted from his previous interviews post-2014 when he always claimed to have no interest in returning. Vince was apparently completely against it though, even when Fox really pushed for it after he was on that Backstage show. Which adds up with the fact that Nick Khan and HHH were apparently the ones who made this happen and Vince and other TKO people didn't even know about it.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 3, 2023 13:09:27 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. I know its not really that simple, but it's almost like Cody and Punk used AEW as leverage to what they really wanted- Wrestlemania main events in WWE. It looks like Cody is going to get two Wrestlemania main events with Cody vs Reigns II in Philly, while Punk is going to have to settle for wrestling Seth Rollins for the consolation prize in the "Main Event" of night one.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 3, 2023 13:11:40 GMT -5
Based on that timeline, mostly while H wasn't in power of H was away for medical.
You can clearly look at it like Vince didn't want Punk around or didn't want to talk to him.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 3, 2023 14:18:26 GMT -5
Funny thing is, didn't Punk and Vince kinda sorta get along and it was HHH that had beef with Punk
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 3, 2023 14:35:20 GMT -5
Funny thing is, didn't Punk and Vince kinda sorta get along and it was HHH that had beef with Punk Maybe Vince changed his mind after the podcast, lawsuit and all that. I know he’s accepted worse, but maybe he became more apprehensive about things like that as he got older
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Post by Ganon83 on Dec 3, 2023 15:25:10 GMT -5
I know its not really that simple, but it's almost like Cody and Punk used AEW as leverage to what they really wanted- Wrestlemania main events in WWE. It looks like Cody is going to get two Wrestlemania main events with Cody vs Reigns II in Philly, while Punk is going to have to settle for wrestling Seth Rollins for the consolation prize in the "Main Event" of night one. And if you're smart about it and both get the win, building a full year towards Punk vs Cody would be a big money match for the Mania after. Especially if Rock were to come back for that year to wrestle Roman on the other night, in a match that doesn't need the championship.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 3, 2023 17:01:11 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. I mean let’s be real, wwe treated Punk like a king He got television time every week, always in a feud with something to do, and had multiple title reigns, and that's all before the Pipebomb. Dude was indeed treated great by booking.
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Post by mattyy on Dec 3, 2023 21:46:07 GMT -5
Wrestling Observer said that Punk tried to return twice to WWE, before he joined AEW and earlier this year while still under AEW contract, so I don't think him saying he wanted to return "home" was too disingenuous. He was on Renee's podcast around 2019-20 and I don't know if he had caught the wrestling bug again or really needed the money but it was very obvious he was now open to returning and was practically begging for a contract offer. His tone had completely shifted from his previous interviews post-2014 when he always claimed to have no interest in returning. Vince was apparently completely against it though, even when Fox really pushed for it after he was on that Backstage show. Which adds up with the fact that Nick Khan and HHH were apparently the ones who made this happen and Vince and other TKO people didn't even know about it. I remember at his little stage show at Starrcast at All Out 2019 being shocked and almost considering coming back when he found out that the roster got vacation time.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 3, 2023 22:07:27 GMT -5
I mean let’s be real, wwe treated Punk like a king He got television time every week, always in a feud with something to do, and had multiple title reigns, and that's all before the Pipebomb. Dude was indeed treated great by booking. If you wanna be technical, he won a world title in less time than Cena, Batista, and the Shield Guys
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 3, 2023 22:55:02 GMT -5
I wish he had a longer run with that IC title. He could've done wonders for the belt at the time, feuding with Jericho and Miz.
Also, man he was such a big part of WWE history, it's glad it's all getting referenced again and not forgotten. 2006-2014 was full of memorable moments.
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Post by Ash Kingston on Dec 4, 2023 0:13:09 GMT -5
I still think Straight Edge Society Punk was his best look He looks like a slightly unhinged and unshaven Matt Mercer.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Dec 4, 2023 2:29:25 GMT -5
I still think Straight Edge Society Punk was his best look Playing a character as opposed to Phil Brooks is where he's most interesting. Doesn't have to be SES (though factions are back) but the Borderline-Shooting "Rebel" has to end. It made sense for AEW and that environment but it would've gotten old even there. Exactly. Let Punk get into an actual character and I think he could have a solid run for a couple years. If he keeps doing the shooty stuff, not only does it get boring, but it's risks getting too shooty and personal. That will inevitably result in Punk kicking off again, and we get.. oh I don't know.. Maniagate?
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