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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 9, 2023 7:28:02 GMT -5
Forgot where I heard it (WON or F4W probably) but it was said there's a chance both nights are main evented by Rollins/Punk and Cody/Reigns. Honestly due to the landscape I see it happening. Becky/Rhea is the only potential match I can see dethroning one and I doubt that'll happen. Sucks for them. Have their been any Women PPV main events since Triple H took over? Nope. The last main-roster women's PLE main event was Bianca/Sasha at WM 37 Night 1 (Becky/Tiffany is the most recent in NXT), and even then, there's the asterisk of WWE treating Drew/Lashley as the bigger deal and wanting it to be the first match with live fans in attendance again.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 9, 2023 7:36:24 GMT -5
Sucks for them. Have their been any Women PPV main events since Triple H took over? Nope. The last main-roster women's PLE main event was Bianca/Sasha at WM 37 Night 1 (Becky/Tiffany is the most recent in NXT), and even then, there's the asterisk of WWE treating Drew/Lashley as the bigger deal and wanting it to be the first match with live fans in attendance again. Going by the criteria of "There is only one Main Event and it's the match that goes on last" and the last match of night 2 is the WM Main Event, when is the last time WWE had a PPV main evented by the women?
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 9, 2023 7:49:01 GMT -5
I did enjoy Punk doing the ‘nod’ to his AEW backstage antics to a completely flat reaction, even the person on the Smackdown fake crowd noise button no sold it. Hey KO, where is your scissors? Your scissors?
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Post by fw91 on Dec 9, 2023 10:52:32 GMT -5
Actually, pleasantly surprised that Punk's AEW jab didn't break out into tribal arguments here.
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Post by thechase on Dec 9, 2023 11:08:44 GMT -5
Actually, pleasantly surprised that Punk's AEW jab didn't break out into tribal arguments here. Well, the chief ain't present Uce.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 9, 2023 11:18:31 GMT -5
I did enjoy Punk doing the ‘nod’ to his AEW backstage antics to a completely flat reaction, even the person on the Smackdown fake crowd noise button no sold it. Hey KO, where is your scissors? Your scissors? I mean atleast the Punk jab was also in reference to KO punching people backstage in storyline
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 9, 2023 11:19:25 GMT -5
That promo tonight was fire. I think Punk vs Roman happens at Mania 41, Roman is the face and Punk is the heel and has Heyman in his corner I'm sorry but Roman Reigns cannot be a face to me ever again. I'm just so fed up of him, never been a big fan of him post-Shield but if they ever try make him a face again I think it's big mistake he's had the most interminably long, miserable, simultaneously dominant treated as a god yet weaselly cheater title reign ever. I also don't know that Punk/Roman is a money match beyond "what does Heyman do and how will he shill it". Said it before, Punk's allure/mystique now is a vaguely Pillman-esque "what the f*** is this idiot gonna do now who's he going to upset what problems is he causing" vibe, so the logical thing to me is book him with guys he's reportedly had heat with- Miz, AJ Styles, Cody, Kevin Owens, Seth, etc. Or let him and Logan Paul be two arseholes to each other. Punk/Roman doesn't do it for me. Roman came back from cancer and created a successful character for himself, he can absolutely play face
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Post by fw91 on Dec 9, 2023 11:31:21 GMT -5
Actually, pleasantly surprised that Punk's AEW jab didn't break out into tribal arguments here. Well, the chief ain't present Uce. Sorry went over my head. Does Roman contribute to our silly arguments?
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 9, 2023 11:37:31 GMT -5
Well, the chief ain't present Uce. Sorry went over my head. Does Roman contribute to our silly arguments? You said tribal, as in tribal chief.
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Post by Fade on Dec 9, 2023 12:03:55 GMT -5
That promo tonight was fire. I think Punk vs Roman happens at Mania 41, Roman is the face and Punk is the heel and has Heyman in his corner I'm sorry but Roman Reigns cannot be a face to me ever again. I'm just so fed up of him, never been a big fan of him post-Shield but if they ever try make him a face again I think it's big mistake he's had the most interminably long, miserable, simultaneously dominant treated as a god yet weaselly cheater title reign ever. I also don't know that Punk/Roman is a money match beyond "what does Heyman do and how will he shill it". Said it before, Punk's allure/mystique now is a vaguely Pillman-esque "what the f*** is this idiot gonna do now who's he going to upset what problems is he causing" vibe, so the logical thing to me is book him with guys he's reportedly had heat with- Miz, AJ Styles, Cody, Kevin Owens, Seth, etc. Or let him and Logan Paul be two arseholes to each other. Punk/Roman doesn't do it for me. Yea punk and Roman isn’t the be all end all for me but Roman is absolutely getting that huge face run down the road. Ppl might not want to hear it, but they’re going to do it.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 9, 2023 12:20:57 GMT -5
I'm sorry but Roman Reigns cannot be a face to me ever again. I'm just so fed up of him, never been a big fan of him post-Shield but if they ever try make him a face again I think it's big mistake he's had the most interminably long, miserable, simultaneously dominant treated as a god yet weaselly cheater title reign ever. I also don't know that Punk/Roman is a money match beyond "what does Heyman do and how will he shill it". Said it before, Punk's allure/mystique now is a vaguely Pillman-esque "what the f*** is this idiot gonna do now who's he going to upset what problems is he causing" vibe, so the logical thing to me is book him with guys he's reportedly had heat with- Miz, AJ Styles, Cody, Kevin Owens, Seth, etc. Or let him and Logan Paul be two arseholes to each other. Punk/Roman doesn't do it for me. Roman came back from cancer and created a successful character for himself, he can absolutely play face All it takes is readjusting the coolness of the Tribal Chief and making him more face without reverting him to the “Sufferin’ Succotash, Son” doofus.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 9, 2023 12:39:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry but Roman Reigns cannot be a face to me ever again. I'm just so fed up of him, never been a big fan of him post-Shield but if they ever try make him a face again I think it's big mistake he's had the most interminably long, miserable, simultaneously dominant treated as a god yet weaselly cheater title reign ever. I also don't know that Punk/Roman is a money match beyond "what does Heyman do and how will he shill it". Said it before, Punk's allure/mystique now is a vaguely Pillman-esque "what the f*** is this idiot gonna do now who's he going to upset what problems is he causing" vibe, so the logical thing to me is book him with guys he's reportedly had heat with- Miz, AJ Styles, Cody, Kevin Owens, Seth, etc. Or let him and Logan Paul be two arseholes to each other. Punk/Roman doesn't do it for me. Roman came back from cancer and created a successful character for himself, he can absolutely play face This heel character that Roman plays is so good it feels like a waste not keeping him as one. But dude is turning face before he retires and it wouldn't surprise me if it's a double turn with CM Punk.
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Post by Perd on Dec 9, 2023 13:59:32 GMT -5
To be demonstrably full of shit and still have people eating out of the palm of your hand. That is a gift. And hey, he got me, too. I stopped what I was doing to listen to that promo. And it was great. A prime example of why he gets all those chances.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 9, 2023 15:58:39 GMT -5
Roman came back from cancer and created a successful character for himself, he can absolutely play face This heel character that Roman plays is so good it feels like a waste not keeping him as one. But dude is turning face before he retires and it wouldn't surprise me if it's a double turn with CM Punk. Yeah, if we get elongated Roman as long as he wants to stay in WWE, I see it playing out like this. Currently - heel with all the gold. Loses the gold - desperate heel pushed to the brink of madness, doing anything to get it back. Goes away for a bit. During this time a top heel who has defeated everyone is on top - Roman makes a big surprise return as the only one who can challenge them and wins. Thank you face title run.
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Post by Renslayer on Dec 10, 2023 0:40:45 GMT -5
Gotta say, the man's off to a wonderful start
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 10, 2023 1:05:43 GMT -5
Gotta say, the man's off to a wonderful start She looks like she’s legit holding back tears. How cute.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 10, 2023 2:13:52 GMT -5
Gotta say, the man's off to a wonderful start Despite all the shit that Punk has pulled, one good constant thing has been his praise and encouragement of Cora. Now, smack him over the head with your stick, Cora.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Dec 10, 2023 2:42:06 GMT -5
Roman came back from cancer and created a successful character for himself, he can absolutely play face All it takes is readjusting the coolness of the Tribal Chief and making him more face without reverting him to the “Sufferin’ Succotash, Son” doofus. He may get "f*** you Roman" chants during the matches, but dude gets more loud reactions for his entrance and "acknowledge me!" than he ever did as Shield-Cosplay-Cena-2.0 (okay okay except for that ONE time he got mega-cheered but then it was f***ed up because Vince couldn't help himself at being awful at everything).Going full face would be EASY now. All Roman's gotta do is keep the same swag, but cheat way less, or be an MJF and be a good guy that cheats to the adoration of the crowd. Once he gets out of Jinder Mahal booking, he'll be golden.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 10, 2023 12:45:48 GMT -5
Gotta say, the man's off to a wonderful start CM Father Figure is definitely something we didn't see coming even 6 months ago. The AJ line was neat too.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 10, 2023 14:39:25 GMT -5
This may be weird, but every time I see Punk with a mic he seems like one of those comics who say a bunch of offensive stuff with no satire and then says 'freedom of speech, bro' when anyone gets mad at him.
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