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Post by gritizen on Dec 18, 2023 23:06:02 GMT -5
Was that a botch? He clearly got his shoulder up. I'm not sure, I swear I saw this happen in another match last week but I can't remember for the life of me which one it was (it may have even been in AEW) Rush like woke up the second they rung the bell against Moxley two weeks ago. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 18, 2023 23:06:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure, I swear I saw this happen in another match last week but I can't remember for the life of me which one it was (it may have even been in AEW) Rush like woke up the second they rung the bell against Moxley two weeks ago. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Yup!
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Post by J is Justice on Dec 18, 2023 23:08:29 GMT -5
So we've had our only title change tonight. Hope everyone's happy!!
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Post by john84 on Dec 18, 2023 23:09:14 GMT -5
Least we got our yearly tradition of a title change at Christmas lol.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Dec 18, 2023 23:09:18 GMT -5
I think they got told to take it home after Brutus land on Priest and Creed still thought it was a kickout. Priest was definitely pissed and not just about his head
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 18, 2023 23:10:57 GMT -5
Question about the kick out will the use it to build something like they did with Royal Rumble 2000 into WrestleMania or will they ignore it like they did the pin Becky did on Rousey at Mania?
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 18, 2023 23:12:43 GMT -5
Last image of Raw for 2023.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Dec 18, 2023 23:14:38 GMT -5
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Post by gritizen on Dec 18, 2023 23:18:34 GMT -5
FYI, it's a reference to Izzi's 1 star cameo videos.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 18, 2023 23:18:46 GMT -5
Might have to ease off the Doomsday Brutus Ball for a bit. Old mate Brutus can’t control his fall after the initial hit because he’s trying to maintain the ball and often ends up just landing on the opponent. They can’t really brace properly for that.
Don’t know why they haven’t been using the seated Lariat like they always used in NXT, to be honest.
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Post by hbkid718 on Dec 18, 2023 23:19:29 GMT -5
Good segment with The Judgment Day. Day 1 will be an awesome way to start 2024, except for 1 match. It will be my easiest Raw Records of the year. The Creed Brothers VS The Judgment Day was incredible. What a final Raw Main Event of 2023. The Creeds were made & have their entire careers ahead of them to win the Tag Team Titles. FACTS: If The Creed Brothers would have won, they would have been the 1st-time Raw & Smackdown Tag Team Champions since Cody Rhodes & Jey Uso, but 1st to never be Champions since The Judgment Day & the 10th to be a former NXT Tag Team Champion after AOP (Raw), American Alpha (SD, but Chad Gable & Jason Jordan won the Raw Tag Titles with different partners), Buddy Murphy (Raw), The New Day (Raw & SD), The Revival (Raw & SD), Matt Riddle (Raw), The Street Profits (Raw & SD), The Viking Raiders (Raw), & The Wyatt Family (SD). They would have been the 5th set of brothers to be Raw Tag Team Champions after Carlito & Primo, Goldust & Cody Rhodes, The Hardys Boyz, & The Usos & the 3rd to be Smackdown Tag Team Champions after The Hardy Boyz & The Usos. This was The Judgment Day's 3rd Raw & Smackdown Tag Team Championship Defense, so if they would have lost, they would have been the 2nd Champions in a row to lose in their 3rd Defense. As of Raw, The Judgment Day's Tag Team Championship Reign has lasted 63 Days, so if they would have lost, they would have been the 7th team to lose the Raw Tag Team Championship in 63 Days after Billy Kidman & Paul London (7/8/04-9/9/04), Gold & Stardust (9/21/14-11/23/14), Cesaro & Tyson Kidd (2/22/15-4/26/15), Gallows & Anderson's 1st Reign (1/29/17-4/2/17), The Hardy Boyz (4/2/17-6/4/17), Chad Gable & Bobby Roode (12/10/18-2/11/19) & the 3rd team to lose the Smackdown Tag Team Championship in 63 Days after The New Day's 4th Reign (7/14/19-9/15/19) & Dominik & Rey Mysterio (5/16/21-7/18/21). 1st RAW VS Final RAW of 2023 FACTS: No one on the 1st Raw except for Jey Uso (1st Raw Results (1/4/23): Bianca Belair def Alexa Bliss, Solo Sikoa def Elias, The Usos & Sami Zayn def Kevin Owens & The Street Profits, Dexter Lumis def Chad Gable, Dakota Kai & IYO SKY def Becky Lynch & Mia Yim, & Austin Theory def Seth Rollins) wrestled on the last Raw of 2023. Both Raws had a Street Fight (Elias VS Sikoa (Music City Street Fight) & Truth VS McDonagh (Miracle on 34th Street Fight) & both had a Men's & Women's Championship Match (Belair VS Bliss for the Women's Title & Carter/Chance VS Green/Niven for the Women's Tag Titles), Theory VS Rollins (US Title) & Miz VS GUNTHER (IC Title).
Here are my RAW Match Rankings: 1) The Miz VS GUNTHER 2) The Creed Brothers VS The Judgment Day 3) R-Truth VS JD McDonagh 4) Jey Uso VS Ludwig Kaiser 5) Kayden Carter & Katana Chance VS Chelsea Green & Piper Niven 6) Akira Tozawa VS Ivar
Overall an awesome Raw to close out 2023. Besides one segment with you-know-who, I loved everything else on Raw. The matches were all excellent & the non-wrestling segments were great too. What a year for Raw in 2023.
Enjoy Barmageddon. I will watch it tomorrow on DVR. BTW, most likely I won't be doing Raw Thoughts next week on Christmas Night since it's a Best of 2023 Show & it will be stupid for me to do thoughts about stuff that I saw already.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 18, 2023 23:20:29 GMT -5
FYI, it's a reference to Izzi's 1 star cameo videos. Have you gotten yours yet?
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Post by gritizen on Dec 18, 2023 23:29:22 GMT -5
FYI, it's a reference to Izzi's 1 star cameo videos. Have you gotten yours yet? Yes, she said she didn't want to be a part of the NXT Live thread fam and called me a loser. $20 well spent.
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Post by john84 on Dec 18, 2023 23:29:24 GMT -5
Here's a brief summary of my thoughts on the last RAW before Christmas. The Miz v GUNTHER - 2 thumbs up The Creed Brothers v The Judgment Day - Meh R-Truth v JD McDonagh - 2 thumbs up - R. Truth is the REAL Santa Claus unlike that phony Kofi Jey Uso VS Ludwig Kaiser - 1 thumb down - Didn't really dig it tbh Kayden Carter/Katana Chance vs Chelsea Green/Piper Niven - Meh. No problem with title change but the match was ''so-so'' IMO Akira Tozawa v Ivar - 2 thumbs down Becky on the mic - 2 thumbs up Nia on the mic - 2 thumbs down Becky/Nia promo segment as a whole - 1 thumb up
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Dec 19, 2023 0:07:37 GMT -5
Might have to ease off the Doomsday Brutus Ball for a bit. Old mate Brutus can’t control his fall after the initial hit because he’s trying to maintain the ball and often ends up just landing on the opponent. They can’t really brace properly for that. Don’t know why they haven’t been using the seated Lariat like they always used in NXT, to be honest. I would bet a dollar that tonight is the last time The Brutus Ball is used as their regular finish, because sweet lord Damian Priest was not happy about having a whole large son rolling on his head.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 19, 2023 0:13:02 GMT -5
Might have to ease off the Doomsday Brutus Ball for a bit. Old mate Brutus can’t control his fall after the initial hit because he’s trying to maintain the ball and often ends up just landing on the opponent. They can’t really brace properly for that. Don’t know why they haven’t been using the seated Lariat like they always used in NXT, to be honest. I would bet a dollar that tonight is the last time The Brutus Ball is used as their regular finish, because sweet lord Damian Priest was not happy about having a whole large son rolling on his head. Priest was either pissed about being on the legit wrong end of the Brutus Ball or the weird kickout at the end because he put some mustard on that toss out.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 19, 2023 9:33:03 GMT -5
FYI, it's a reference to Izzi's 1 star cameo videos. Izzi sounds like Britt Baker.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 19, 2023 9:50:14 GMT -5
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