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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 5, 2024 8:05:47 GMT -5
Bobby Heenan is great as a funny heel commentator but at Rumble 92 and Mania 8 he's at his best because he has Gorilla to bounce off. I'd say no one got Bobby's humour better, and would feed him lines and comebacks while staying 100% in character. And even in Super Face Commentator mode he's praising Flair. At no point does he go "Flair's a chump", he outright compliments the talent and endurance of Flair, he's just sceptical anyone can outlast the Rumble match. And then, slowly, Flair does, and proves Gorilla wrong. It's absolutely crucial to the overall result imo. Also, him winding up Bobby all match about a bet they have on the match is priceless. And they totally cover for Randy Savage having a right proper Macho Man moment... From top to bottom, I have always felt that WM8 was Heenan and Monsoon's best PPV.
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Post by theghostofalwilson on Jan 5, 2024 8:29:27 GMT -5
I thought this thread would be about The Berzerker I really believed he would be a threat at the Rumble because the commentators told me his finishing move was to throw people over the top rope!
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Post by msc on Jan 5, 2024 10:10:59 GMT -5
I thought this thread would be about The Berzerker I really believed he would be a threat at the Rumble because the commentators told me his finishing move was to throw people over the top rope! True enough, they said this in 2 Royal Rumbles and a fair few Battle Royals and I can't recall Berzerker actually ever eliminating anyone from them ever.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 5, 2024 10:14:55 GMT -5
I was going to say Jerry Sags...
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 5, 2024 10:32:29 GMT -5
I really believed he would be a threat at the Rumble because the commentators told me his finishing move was to throw people over the top rope! True enough, they said this in 2 Royal Rumbles and a fair few Battle Royals and I can't recall Berzerker actually ever eliminating anyone from them ever. In 1993 Berzerker eliminated Virgil.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jan 5, 2024 11:19:26 GMT -5
True enough, they said this in 2 Royal Rumbles and a fair few Battle Royals and I can't recall Berzerker actually ever eliminating anyone from them ever. In 1993 Berzerker eliminated Virgil. He also won one of those 30 or 40-man battle royals they had in 1992.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 5, 2024 12:17:37 GMT -5
I absolutely get why the Observer's readership found Gorilla really annoying, but he did really give Heenan and Ventura the perfect guy to play off of, and some of his obvious biases did play into that. It's also, frankly, kind of similar to sports broadcasters with their own tendency to wear their affiliations on their sleeve, or for former players to sometimes pat themselves on the back. It's kind of amusing that Gorilla transitioned from a monster heel to a sort of grumpy commentator who was still ultimately a babyface. Honestly, Gorilla wasn't a particularly good commentator but he developed such incredible rapports with Ventura and Heenan that it just worked. There's a reason you rarely see someone talk about how great Monsoon was without mentioning his partner. People like JR, Tenay, or Schiovane are talented broadcasters and get praise for their work regardless of partner, Monsoon gets praised for the amazing chemistry he had with Jesse and Brain EDIT: And I grew up on WWF, so I definitely have some rose coloured glasses when it comes to the commentary, but WWF commentary is pretty shite until JR gets there. Now you have commentators that have legit broadcasting experience and have covered other sports
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Post by msc on Jan 5, 2024 12:28:57 GMT -5
True enough, they said this in 2 Royal Rumbles and a fair few Battle Royals and I can't recall Berzerker actually ever eliminating anyone from them ever. In 1993 Berzerker eliminated Virgil. Off camera focus when everyone is focused on someone more important (Mr Perfect)? Dunno who that is more telling about, Virgil or Big John.
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Post by tafkaga on Jan 5, 2024 12:50:25 GMT -5
In 1993 Berzerker eliminated Virgil. Off camera focus when everyone is focused on someone more important (Mr Perfect)? Dunno who that is more telling about, Virgil or Big John. Virgil for sure. His candy cane striped pants flying over the top sooner rather than later was a foregone conclusion from the moment he jogged through the curtain.
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