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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 9, 2024 21:20:24 GMT -5
Everyone should clown on Bischoff being a clown. Tony calling him a has-been is correct, Meltzer destroying him with numbers is also funny Tony making dumb posts on Twitter at least isn't hurting the on screen product of a show. Hiring Bischoff in every company including the end of WCW, sure did that lol He’s only making himself look bad. And vs as a result, AEW. Play on playa Eh, this shit happens and then it's forgotten about in a day, AEW will live lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 9, 2024 21:21:00 GMT -5
Do people not remember how Bischoff and McMahon acted towards each other in the 90's or something? Biscoff and McMahon were also in direct competition with each other, AEW is a distant second to WWE today, there's a difference. They're still the number one and number two in the US, so that doesn't really stop competitors from taking jabs no matter who the clear one or two is. It never stopped WWE from taking their own swipes either despite being the clear number one.
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Post by jm on Jan 9, 2024 21:22:29 GMT -5
I hope everyone clutching their pearls as to how horrible TK's tweets are had the same energy during the Monday Night War with some of the antics that Vince and Bischoff did.
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Post by callmekc on Jan 9, 2024 21:23:36 GMT -5
I hope everyone clutching their pearls as to how horrible TK's tweets are had the same energy during the Monday Night War with some of the antics that Vince and Bischoff did. I was 8. In retrospect, most stuff that happened in that era f***ing sucked.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 9, 2024 21:25:04 GMT -5
Do people not remember how Bischoff and McMahon acted towards each other in the 90's or something? Biscoff and McMahon were also in direct competition with each other, AEW is a distant second to WWE today, there's a difference. So if AEW was a closer number two, Tony would be more justified in being a dweeb on Twitter, or would you move your AEW BAD goalposts?
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 9, 2024 21:37:35 GMT -5
Man, how sad is it that it's took 9 days in the year for some random USA Newtork intern to make Tony Khan throw another bitch fit? I mean, come on, the guys arguing with a network! This isn't the first time he's thrown a hissy fit either. This is what happens when your born into wealth and you can't take ANY criticism at all. He's not posting on here, or on twitter as one of the many AEW Marks who defend everything AEW does, he's the OWNER OF THE DAMN COMPANY! Yet, he continues to lash out at the more ridiculous stuff, trying to always get the upper hand, a "gothcha" when there's nothing there to get mad at. Jinder Mahal doesn't even work for you dude, like come on! Thanks for the free publicity for Monday Night RAW next week.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 9, 2024 21:40:40 GMT -5
I hope everyone clutching their pearls as to how horrible TK's tweets are had the same energy during the Monday Night War with some of the antics that Vince and Bischoff did. Sure. And I think most people would agree a lot of it was silly. But let’s not pretend Tony getting triggered by a silly tweet by the USA social team is on the same level as those antics. This would be like Vince dedicating time on TV to talk about how the WCW product isn’t criticized the same way. Maybe those calls were placed to Wade Keller and Dave Meltzer, but they didn’t happen in public.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 9, 2024 21:41:30 GMT -5
Man, how sad is it that it's took 9 days in the year for some random USA Newtork intern to make Tony Khan throw another bitch fit? I mean, come on, the guys arguing with a network! This isn't the first time he's thrown a hissy fit either. This is what happens when your born into wealth and you can't take ANY criticism at all. He's not posting on here, or on twitter as one of the many AEW Marks who defend everything AEW does, he's the OWNER OF THE DAMN COMPANY! Yet, he continues to lash out at the more ridiculous stuff, trying to always get the upper hand, a "gothcha" when there's nothing there to get mad at. Jinder Mahal doesn't even work for you dude, like come on! Thanks for the free publicity for Monday Night RAW next week. I think one thing we need to take away from this is that it’s very likely the person working the USA Network account is a real employee that has worked on social media campaigns and stuff for years. They don’t have “interns” running these things anymore and it’s kind of insulting to ‘em.
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 9, 2024 21:42:29 GMT -5
Biscoff and McMahon were also in direct competition with each other, AEW is a distant second to WWE today, there's a difference. So if AEW was a closer number two, Tony would be more justified in being a dweeb on Twitter, or would you move your AEW BAD goalposts? If it was more of a back and forth between the two, like in the 90's with WCW and WWF, than yeah, I would say he's justified in being an idiot. But this is TNA 2007 levels of sad, like it's when Road Dogg and Bily Gunn challenged Paul Leveque and Michael Hickenbottom to meet them at the Alamo Dome. Worry about getting your own company's identity, lashing out at a network for a "tongue in cheek" remark looks foolish.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 9, 2024 21:45:52 GMT -5
Honestly, putting aside the fact that Jinder was a failure as a champion (he was responsible for some of Smackdown’s lowest ratings at the time, which was hard to do considering how consistent they were), I do genuinely feel sorry for him during his reign because it rapidly came off like they threw him to the wolves with no real idea about how he could have a main event match or the sort of story that would make his rise make sense to that audience because it never was justified. It just happened. With that stuff in mind, of course it was going to suck.
Also didn’t help that, at the Shareholders meeting not long after he lost, Stephanie basically said “Yeah, he was basically champion because we wanted to go into India and he shit the bed with that” and I’m sorry, you basically made a shit filled bed, told the guy to lie in it and then blamed him for that bed being filled with shit. And now they just decide the guy should get a title match in 2024 because *shrug* and he’ll get blamed for nobody caring likely.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 9, 2024 21:48:28 GMT -5
Honestly, putting aside the fact that Jinder was a failure as a champion (he was responsible for some of Smackdown’s lowest ratings at the time, which was hard to do considering how consistent they were), I do genuinely feel sorry for him during his reign because it rapidly came off like they threw him to the wolves with no real idea about how he could have a main event match or the sort of story that would make his rise make sense to that audience because it never was justified. It just happened. With that stuff in mind, of course it was going to suck. Also didn’t help that, at the Shareholders meeting not long after he lost, Stephanie basically said “Yeah, he was basically champion because we wanted to go into India and he shit the bed with that” and I’m sorry, you basically made a shit filled bed, told the guy to lie in it and then blamed him for that bed being filled with shit. And now they just decide the guy should get a title match in 2024 because *shrug* and he’ll get blamed for nobody caring likely. And by all accounts, people think he’s a really nice dude. I remember a lot of people in the industry being very excited for him when he won.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 9, 2024 21:52:46 GMT -5
Jinder is a nice dude, and I cannot take that away from him
I wish he was given actual decent booking and maybe an actual good push to go along with it
Instead he is constantly lynch pinned as a foreign heel who cuts flat out racist promos. Like that Shinsuke Nakamura shit I still can't believe they got away with.
It doesn't make Jinder Mahal a watchable character and in that sense Tony Khan is right about giving him a focus and a title match with this version of Jinder, but it doesn't mean Jinder Mahal is a shitty person, he actually, to me, would benefit from being a babyface, but WWE won't allow it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 9, 2024 21:57:10 GMT -5
And by all accounts, people think he’s a really nice dude. I remember a lot of people in the industry being very excited for him when he won. Yeah, the Calgary representative acknowledged it in Canadian Parliament and said how much of a big deal it was. Which makes it more mindboggling when you remember that they wanted him to not only be an Indian heel but to also appeal to a country that wasn’t going to embrace him because a) he was a heel and b) they knew he wasn’t actually born in India and could see through the marketing, hence one of the reasons why the tour sold so bad. For all the progress the company made coming out of the 2000s of trying to recapture the Attitude Era and failing, the amount of arrogance and cockiness from the whole Jinder Experiment is something you can’t help but look in awe at. Just, how did any of it get approved?
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 9, 2024 22:00:37 GMT -5
I'm glad Twatter didn't exist during the Monday Night Wars. It would have been insufferable.
That fact doesn't make Tony any less lame today.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 9, 2024 22:02:41 GMT -5
And by all accounts, people think he’s a really nice dude. I remember a lot of people in the industry being very excited for him when he won. Yeah, the Calgary representative acknowledged it in Canadian Parliament and said how much of a big deal it was. Which makes it more mindboggling when you remember that they wanted him to not only be an Indian heel but to also appeal to a country that wasn’t going to embrace him because a) he was a heel and b) they knew he wasn’t actually born in India and could see through the marketing, hence one of the reasons why the tour sold so bad. For all the progress the company made coming out of the 2000s of trying to recapture the Attitude Era and failing, the amount of arrogance and cockiness from the whole Jinder Experiment is something you can’t help but look in awe at. Just, how did any of it get approved? Yeah. They did him dirty. I don’t want to see him in main events after next week, but I wouldn’t mind him popping up as a midcard act here or there.
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Post by City Duck on Jan 9, 2024 22:05:00 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 9, 2024 22:06:54 GMT -5
Yeah. They did him dirty. I don’t want to see him in main events after next week, but I wouldn’t mind him popping up as a midcard act here or there. He can clearly make people look good, which was his role after his first push failed and it worked out until he got fired for the first time. There’s nothing wrong with a role like that, a lot of people made a good living from that. Like, if someone said it was Vince McMahon thinking he could take anyone and make them a star because he’s Vince McMahon Damnit and nobody stopped him, I’d believe it because that’s the only reasonable thing that could have lead to it.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 9, 2024 22:15:28 GMT -5
Biscoff and McMahon were also in direct competition with each other, AEW is a distant second to WWE today, there's a difference. So if AEW was a closer number two, Tony would be more justified in being a dweeb on Twitter, or would you move your AEW BAD goalposts? But you reprimanded me earlier. Like what you want, but I like to chime in when tribalism derails conversation into personal attacks.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 9, 2024 22:17:31 GMT -5
I'm glad Twatter didn't exist during the Monday Night Wars. It would have been insufferable. That fact doesn't make Tony any less lame today. Don't forget about impersonator accounts. In 1999 there would be the following: VinceRusso@vincerusso69 @vincerussopuppies @vincerussobrand @vincerussowwf @vincerussohigherpower We wouldn't be able to even tell which one is the real Vince or they are ALL Vince accounts!
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 9, 2024 22:21:04 GMT -5
I like Tony and all, but this shit is just cringy. He's a terrible public face/voice for the company sometimes. In fairness, the corporate Twitter account for USA Network taking the Cagematch jab in the first place was equally, if not more, cringy. I'm cringing so hard I might rupture a disc in my back at the whole exchange. I think the issue comes down to Tony is taking himself seriously in all of this. It's not a guy having a little fun on the internet but a guy furiously trying to defend his company from people making one-liners on the internet.
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