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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 29, 2024 23:30:35 GMT -5
I’d definitely be curious to see how Graves goes as a more neutral play-by-play commentator, should that be the direction. Dialling down some of those heel tendencies that grated on people could go a big way towards a long shelf life in the position.
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Post by Andew9001 on Jan 29, 2024 23:32:45 GMT -5
Who would do play by play though? Graves is super capable (and pretty much did it to cover for Patrick’s weakness). A la Monsoon as a former wrestler doing play by play He and Wade i reckon would probably have some good chemistry and the banter would be good. He's just been colour for so long that i'm not sure how he'd adjust but if that's the direction they go then hopefully it'll be a winner.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 29, 2024 23:35:38 GMT -5
Honestly I have little idea what the actual difference is between color and play-by-play anyway. Most of the time the dudes at the desk feel relatively interchangeable with each other.
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Post by City Duck on Jan 29, 2024 23:36:16 GMT -5
GO AWAYYYYYYYYY OH MY GOD
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Post by Perd on Jan 29, 2024 23:40:44 GMT -5
Why does he have to take Wade's spot? There’s a perfectly average Corey Graves right over there.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jan 30, 2024 0:36:43 GMT -5
Pretty sure he was drunk tonight.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 30, 2024 0:43:03 GMT -5
GO AWAYYYYYYYYY OH MY GOD He should take his theme very seriously and "GOOOOOOOOOO"
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Post by neilc on Jan 30, 2024 1:23:36 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder why I continue at this board, it seems I don't like the people who are 'fan favorites' here and I like people such as McAfee who the board seems to despise.
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Post by Woo on Jan 30, 2024 2:08:37 GMT -5
I liked the spot. It was one of the most enjoyable parts of an otherwise largely forgettable match imo.
I don't get the "wasted spot" comments. Yes, it could have been given to a regular roster member instead, but then Ricochet is a regular member and people even called him being in the match a "wasted spot" so I don't know who some of you would have had instead.
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Post by callmekc on Jan 30, 2024 4:24:10 GMT -5
Why does he have to take Wade's spot? There’s a perfectly average Corey Graves right over there. Smackdown is going to be oops all colour commentary.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 30, 2024 8:29:01 GMT -5
Honestly I have little idea what the actual difference is between color and play-by-play anyway. Most of the time the dudes at the desk feel relatively interchangeable with each other. WWE doesn’t define them too well due to the commentary style. In AEW, for example, it’s clear who is filling what role. Excalibur is a traditional PBP, Tony is colour and Taz is analyst.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 30, 2024 11:20:39 GMT -5
I may be drunk right now but I'd love to see the color guy have zero clue about any of the booking for the show. Just react naturally to things.
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Post by BlahBlah on Jan 30, 2024 15:21:01 GMT -5
So what happens with Wade? Because he's awesome.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jan 30, 2024 15:45:54 GMT -5
So what happens with Wade? Because he's awesome. Him and Corey are set to be the Smackdown team which is going to be a mess.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 30, 2024 15:46:39 GMT -5
Honestly I have little idea what the actual difference is between color and play-by-play anyway. Most of the time the dudes at the desk feel relatively interchangeable with each other. WWE doesn’t define them too well due to the commentary style. In AEW, for example, it’s clear who is filling what role. Excalibur is a traditional PBP, Tony is colour and Taz is analyst. I'm really not sure I agree with this. Wade is clearly more colour than Cole who's play by play, Graves is a mix but I'd say more colour. I'd really disagree with the AEW assessment. I'd say it's more Excalibur talks constantly and does a bit of everything, Taz chips in with the occasional bit of analysis (or riff on Dark/with certain folks) and Tony barely gets a word in edgeways. Since Vince 'retired' and Cole didn't have him yelling in his ear 24/7, I've honestly much preferred WWE's commentary to AEW's. AEW's really doesn't do it for me, I find myself wishing Tony was allowed to do play by play like back in the day and Excalibur would shut the f*** up sometimes. I used to love him on PWG colour commentary and at first in AEW but he's really started to grate on me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 30, 2024 18:09:37 GMT -5
I may be drunk right now but I'd love to see the color guy have zero clue about any of the booking for the show. Just react naturally to things. Do you remember Lawler?
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Post by DoubleDare on Jan 30, 2024 18:22:45 GMT -5
Corey as play by play could work if he can be like Gorilla, call the moves with funny comments.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 30, 2024 18:35:30 GMT -5
WWE doesn’t define them too well due to the commentary style. In AEW, for example, it’s clear who is filling what role. Excalibur is a traditional PBP, Tony is colour and Taz is analyst. I'm really not sure I agree with this. Wade is clearly more colour than Cole who's play by play, Graves is a mix but I'd say more colour. I'd really disagree with the AEW assessment. I'd say it's more Excalibur talks constantly and does a bit of everything, Taz chips in with the occasional bit of analysis (or riff on Dark/with certain folks) and Tony barely gets a word in edgeways. Since Vince 'retired' and Cole didn't have him yelling in his ear 24/7, I've honestly much preferred WWE's commentary to AEW's. AEW's really doesn't do it for me, I find myself wishing Tony was allowed to do play by play like back in the day and Excalibur would shut the f*** up sometimes. I used to love him on PWG colour commentary and at first in AEW but he's really started to grate on me. I'd agree with your assessment on both fronts. WWe's commentary roles are more clearly defined while AEW's aren't, with Excalibur trying to do a hybrid play by play/colour combo (which doesn't really work because he's not really a play by play guy and Schiavone's not a colour guy). It ends up being messy a lot of the time with the three on Dynamite stepping over each other constantly.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jan 30, 2024 19:55:55 GMT -5
WWE doesn’t define them too well due to the commentary style. In AEW, for example, it’s clear who is filling what role. Excalibur is a traditional PBP, Tony is colour and Taz is analyst. I'm really not sure I agree with this. Wade is clearly more colour than Cole who's play by play, Graves is a mix but I'd say more colour. I'd really disagree with the AEW assessment. I'd say it's more Excalibur talks constantly and does a bit of everything, Taz chips in with the occasional bit of analysis (or riff on Dark/with certain folks) and Tony barely gets a word in edgeways. Since Vince 'retired' and Cole didn't have him yelling in his ear 24/7, I've honestly much preferred WWE's commentary to AEW's. AEW's really doesn't do it for me, I find myself wishing Tony was allowed to do play by play like back in the day and Excalibur would shut the f*** up sometimes. I used to love him on PWG colour commentary and at first in AEW but he's really started to grate on me. AEW's commentary is a mixed bag for me. I 1000% agree with the assessment that they talk over damn near everything. It's been a recurring complaint for a long time for me. When I used to do video reviews of the shows you'd hear me say "will you shut the f*** up?!" at least once. On the other hand the natural banter the team of Excalibur, Taz, and Schiavone have is the best going today. Off the cuff comments, and the way they make each other laugh makes that team special. If they could balance that with letting the on air product breathe, it would be great. WWE has improved immensely ever since Vince stopped being in Cole's ear, and making Graves go full on bully asshole. (Poor Byron) Sometimes I wonder why I continue at this board, it seems I don't like the people who are 'fan favorites' here and I like people such as McAfee who the board seems to despise. I wouldn't let it get to you too much (easier said than done, I know). There's been more than once I've typed out "I know I'm alone on my island about this one", and I've grown to accept that. It's okay to like Pat. I do not, and that's fine. I just find his face annoying, his voice annoying, his accent and the way he pronounces vowels is annoying. But...to give the devil his due...once a show he says something that makes me bust out laughing. Do I think it's worth the suffering? No. But he does manage to do it
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 31, 2024 9:13:05 GMT -5
Punk: Not what I was expecting Pat: He was expecting to say the word 'ass'.
Every sentence this motherf***er says makes me hate him or love him like a lightswitch being flicked back and forth
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