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Post by cjh on Jan 28, 2024 9:56:21 GMT -5
In regards to the individual talent or business reasons? Kind of all of the above Her getting pulled from TNA and the indies to go to a show I don't watch would bum me out immensely, if this one off builds to her signing full time with them Plus working for WWE given the opinions she expresses and principles she claims to have is... contradictory, especially given the news of the last few days Probably got paid a shitload for this one appearance though so good for her for that I guess She just re-signed with TNA not long ago. This was just WWE pitching TNA management an idea, and TNA agreed with it.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Jan 28, 2024 9:56:35 GMT -5
Maxxine’s reverse worm was good!
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schma
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Post by schma on Jan 28, 2024 10:14:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. There were a few spots where you could see the telegraphing as they didn't hit the cues quite right but otherwise it was enjoyable. There weren't loads of bodies just lying around like previous rumbles. The way they introduced Jade was perfect with her single handedly taking out Nia right after she'd gone on a tear and the announcers had brought up that it took 11 people to eliminate her the previous year. I actually wasn't sure Bayley would win it so it made the final bits entertaining. Though once Becky was eliminated I realized that was the direction they were going. Naomi got a lot of shine in her return, showing off her athleticism and lasting for quite a while. I was surprised that neither she nor Katana Chance did a Kofi spot. Maybe they've finally run out of ideas? All in all though, I had a good time watching. Chelsea did a great job in her role as well.
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Post by clc on Jan 28, 2024 10:17:04 GMT -5
Naomi surprise was too early. I like Naomi, but in a Rumble so short on surprises, her coming in a bit later would have been better. Chelsea was great. Kabuki Warriors eliminated too fast. I am wondering if it was a botch. Was Kairi supposed to get back in? After she gets eliminated, I think you see Asuka communicating like, "now throw me out". I guess they wanted Bayely to win it on her own. Asuka didn't even get to mist anyone The TNA champion lady. Uhm, I guess that was cool for people who watch TNA. It worked better last year because we know who Mickie James is. I think I am going to absolutely hate Jade Cargil. She better be Cena levels of golden on the mic to deserve this "she's an absolute star" I keep hearing. She looks great, but you know so did Mason Ryan and Eva Marie. It takes more than muscles and colorful wigs to hook me in. Bayley winning was great. The crowd cheering for her was nice too. We need to teach Americans to sing the "Hey Bayley" song. Great character work from Bayley too. She was anxious when Asuka entered, but she also kept saving her team mates. She wins in the end, not with a huge triumphant move, but by just surviving and capitalizing on an opportunity. That suits here character, because even though she's one of the bigger stronger girls, she's never quite presented as such. Needed more surprises. There are so many completely not-over women. Candice Larae, Tegan Nox, Indi Hartwell, Katana Chance, Kayden Carter, Xia Lee, Alba Fire, Michin, Zoey Stark...crickets. This is a failure on the part of the weekly shows to give these women any decent showcase. Dusting off Michelle McCool for her annual Rumble spot would have popped the crowd better. Throw in Layla El (who has yet to make a return) and that could have been something memorable. Give Kaitlyn a call. Even if a Nostolgia entrant was used before, they still have value in a "we don't see them often" way. The music. Everyone is saying it, but they need better themes. A good theme should let you know who is coming out when the first note hits. I watch the shows and I could not identify most of the entrants until I saw them. It was a decent, Rumble. The only good match of the night. Happy that Bayley won. In a few years this Rumble will be remembered (by me) as the one where Bayley won and Chelsea was hilariously knocked around.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Jan 28, 2024 10:18:41 GMT -5
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 28, 2024 10:38:40 GMT -5
I can't remember a single thing Bayley did besides the final elimination. 2006 Rey Mysterio-ass performance. Feels like she won so the optics are now Sasha is the only one of the four horsewomen not to win a rumble. Shoulda been Jade btw. She proved that she doesn't need to be hidden away anymore. She's an absolute star and the sooner WWE recognise that the better
Bayley got seven eliminations, the same as Rhea last year. The interesting thing though is that only one of Bayley's eliminations (tossing Maxxine) was a standard one. Most were her being opportunistic and taking out women from behind.
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Post by gl83 on Jan 28, 2024 11:23:51 GMT -5
The ending sequence was really good but the first 80% of it was both uninteresting and really showed that they need to do more to get the low to midcard women over. Because this wasn't just a bad Rumble crowd thing. A lot of them don't get much of a reaction on a weekly basis and most of them are very talented. Once KAIRI and Asuka got eliminated early it put this rumble into a serious drought and then only surged by the final 3rd of the match and that should not be the case. Especially since one of the story beats heading into the Rumble was whether Damage Ctrl was going to screw Bayley over in the Rumble match, so Kairi/Asuka's elimination kinda killed some suspense on that end.
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Post by dex on Jan 28, 2024 11:41:42 GMT -5
People talk how they need to do more to get the lower and midcard women over. But there's only so much they can do . A lot of them just aren't that good or at least are not anymore. Good booking won't magically give Tegan new knees.
The truth is in terms of in-ring talent there is a lot of deadweight on the main roster . Which is part of the reason the average in-ring match quality has been so low the past year or so.
Part of this due to the performance center being very hit or miss when it comes to training talents especially when it comes to training them from scratch. The other part imo comes from certain talents naturally losing a step as they get older
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 28, 2024 11:45:11 GMT -5
Maxxine’s reverse worm was good! I actually thought Maxxine was awful in the Rumble. I know she’s green and all but she was like truly bad. She needs an NXT run.
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Post by dex on Jan 28, 2024 11:51:47 GMT -5
Maxxine’s reverse worm was good! I actually thought Maxxine was awful in the Rumble. I know she’s green and all but she was like truly bad. She needs an NXT run. I don't know why she's wrestling on the main roster . It seems like this is the type of thing that was criticized back in divas era day. With talents being called up and wrestling way before they were ready. But now is A-OK?
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jan 28, 2024 12:22:29 GMT -5
It was my match of the night even of most of it to start was poor. This did solidify what I’ve been thinking for a while now, I want Chelsea to win one one the main women’s titles in 2024. Even if it’s a really short run Chelsea would be an excellent way to kind of redo the Miz / Lashley thing from a couple of years back, have her win Money in the Bank, get someone else to help her cash it in, then promptly get annihilated by them. perfect! yes please!
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 28, 2024 16:23:51 GMT -5
Kind of all of the above Her getting pulled from TNA and the indies to go to a show I don't watch would bum me out immensely, if this one off builds to her signing full time with them Plus working for WWE given the opinions she expresses and principles she claims to have is... contradictory, especially given the news of the last few days Probably got paid a shitload for this one appearance though so good for her for that I guess She just re-signed with TNA not long ago. This was just WWE pitching TNA management an idea, and TNA agreed with it. And unless WWE changed their “Mandy Rose Policy”, Jordynne’s stated numerous times she makes much more money from her OnlyFans than from wrestling. Highly doubtful she’s looking to jump ship permanently.
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Post by SirLucas on Jan 28, 2024 16:53:27 GMT -5
My biggest complaint was Liv Morgan being the one to eliminate Jade Cargill. Cargill has been hyped as the next main event women's superstar. She should have been eliminated by someone of higher stature than Liv, like Becky, Bayley, or Bianca.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 28, 2024 16:57:47 GMT -5
My biggest complaint was Liv Morgan being the one to eliminate Jade Cargill. Cargill has been hyped as the next main event women's superstar. She should have been eliminated by someone of higher stature than Liv, like Becky, Bayley, or Bianca. They seemed to be pushing Jade on commentary as someone with the potential to own the division but she still needs to prove herself. The finish played into that, she got outfoxed in a precarious position by two more experienced wrestlers. And Liv stole a couple wins from Ronda Rousey and nearly won the Rumble last year in nearly identical circumstances. Didn’t see it as a huge stretch that she could pull a fast one on Jade.
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Nosnorb
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Post by Nosnorb on Jan 28, 2024 17:12:19 GMT -5
My biggest complaint was Liv Morgan being the one to eliminate Jade Cargill. Cargill has been hyped as the next main event women's superstar. She should have been eliminated by someone of higher stature than Liv, like Becky, Bayley, or Bianca. Liv is a former womens champion and tag team champion and this was her return from injury, and it was the first match on the main roster for Jade. It was fine for Morgan to be the one to put Cargill out.
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Post by PKO on Jan 28, 2024 19:41:46 GMT -5
Positives:
• Naomi - so, so, so happy to see her back and the reaction she got. She was understandably emotional and it was so lovely to see. I’m a huge Naomi fan and I always felt she’d be back, but I’m so happy for her that she had an amazing run in Impact that was so widely praised, and then had a big return here.
• Jordynne Grace - wow what a surprise! I managed to avoid the spoilers so I really did not expect this at all. She looked freakin’ amazing; not only did she look like she belonged, she looked like a star. I don’t think it works for her to be full time with WWE, but I’d love if they could get her back for a short run or a match here or there or something.
• Chelsea and Piper - they got to be the fun little story that plays out in the Rumble, and it was indeed fun; from Piper initially threatening to eliminate Chelsea herself, to poor pancake Chelsea, to the Louboutin sale. Good stuff.
• Nia Jax - I know, I know. I so did not want her to return but it really has kind of worked well in my eyes. They did an amazing job of making her look like a beast, which played into…
• Jade Cargill - this was a big test for her and she passed with flying colours. Everyone and their grandmother has been saying she looks like a star and boy oh boy did she perform like a star. She looked like a billion dollars
Negatives:
• Things got a lil sloppy. Sometimes it’s better to just keep is simple.
• The camera work was all over the place at times
• As is often the case, the middle section dragged a little.
• Now they’ve phased out most of the CFO$ themes we’ve unfortunately got to the point of “Huh? Who is this?” themes like the final years of Jim Johnston
• A legend would have been nice
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Jan 28, 2024 19:57:35 GMT -5
My biggest complaint was Liv Morgan being the one to eliminate Jade Cargill. Cargill has been hyped as the next main event women's superstar. She should have been eliminated by someone of higher stature than Liv, like Becky, Bayley, or Bianca. They seemed to be pushing Jade on commentary as someone with the potential to own the division but she still needs to prove herself. The finish played into that, she got outfoxed in a precarious position by two more experienced wrestlers. And Liv stole a couple wins from Ronda Rousey and nearly won the Rumble last year in nearly identical circumstances. Didn’t see it as a huge stretch that she could pull a fast one on Jade. It’ll be fine if Jade crushes Liv on the way to Bianca at Wrestlemania
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 28, 2024 20:04:36 GMT -5
I kind of felt like Jordynne and Jade looked more like stars than about 2/3rds of that match, tbh. I think her biggest hurdle from what I’d see is testing clean. I don’t like the idea of WWE just stealing folks but I don’t hate the idea of ongoing talent exchanges where folks go to TNA to work on their characters and generate buzz “outside” the WWE system.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 28, 2024 20:28:38 GMT -5
Maxxine’s reverse worm was good! I actually thought Maxxine was awful in the Rumble. I know she’s green and all but she was like truly bad. She needs an NXT run. I think she used up all of her wrestling meter on that one Japanese ocean cyclone suplex She was awful, awful, awful
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 28, 2024 20:34:03 GMT -5
I actually thought Maxxine was awful in the Rumble. I know she’s green and all but she was like truly bad. She needs an NXT run. I think she used up all of her wrestling meter on that one Japanese ocean cyclone suplex She was awful, awful, awful At the very least, they need to give up on her trying to do headscissors. She stuffed it up against Rhea and then stuffed it up twice against Bayley.
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