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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Feb 2, 2024 17:55:30 GMT -5
Supposedly (I saw it secondhand) Meltzer said the sense he gets is WWE is just waiting for it to blow over, which I hope it never does. Unperson Brock. Yeah, and part of me thinks we will see Brick back on screen again in the summer. I really hope not. This shit shouldn't just blow over. For some reason, most heinous stuff in wrestling just blows over. Media in general, really, but I think due to it still just being "that fake wrestling", there has been horrible acts committed and a blind eye turned to for decades. It needs to stop
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2024 17:58:43 GMT -5
Brock looked kinda cooked in his last match anyway even if all of this HADN'T come out about him, kinda think he was getting near the end of being a serious worker
That being said probably ain't blowing over, you gotta move on.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 2, 2024 18:09:52 GMT -5
He will care if he’s brought up on human trafficking charges. He's not even a named defendant in the civil trial. So I think it's a stretch he'd be named in any hypothetical criminal charges. Sure, but the workings of what a civil trial will target versus what a criminal trial will target are very different. The complaint mentions 'friends' of Vince and infers other events, but they aren't defendants in the suit because it's Vince and Laurinaitis who did the bulk of the abuse. It makes the strongest case to focus on them as the main actors. If there's other women and if Brock had a hand in sexual assaulting any of them, then they can still take him down even if he's not a 'big enough part' of one specific case. It all depends on what the investigation finds, but if his hands are dirty, he might still get caught in this net.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 2, 2024 18:20:28 GMT -5
Apologies if this has come up in other threads, but has there been any inkling yet of what this has done to Brock's personal life? He's still with Sable, right? Even if he didn't actually commit a crime, I can't imagine what he's accused of is going over well at home. Very, very little *ever* comes out about Lesnar’s personal life, so I’m I’ll be very surprised if this is any different.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 2, 2024 18:34:35 GMT -5
“Bron Breakker, suddenly a big spot has opened up for you.”
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 2, 2024 19:11:10 GMT -5
He's not even a named defendant in the civil trial. So I think it's a stretch he'd be named in any hypothetical criminal charges. Sure, but the workings of what a civil trial will target versus what a criminal trial will target are very different. The complaint mentions 'friends' of Vince and infers other events, but they aren't defendants in the suit because it's Vince and Laurinaitis who did the bulk of the abuse. It makes the strongest case to focus on them as the main actors. If there's other women and if Brock had a hand in sexual assaulting any of them, then they can still take him down even if he's not a 'big enough part' of one specific case. It all depends on what the investigation finds, but if his hands are dirty, he might still get caught in this net. Absolutely, but going right now that Brock is going to be indicted in a federal crime when he's not even really part of the big crime that started this is a leap. things like discovery (if it gets that far) will be a different beast.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 2, 2024 19:26:10 GMT -5
He's not even a named defendant in the civil trial. So I think it's a stretch he'd be named in any hypothetical criminal charges. Sure, but the workings of what a civil trial will target versus what a criminal trial will target are very different. The complaint mentions 'friends' of Vince and infers other events, but they aren't defendants in the suit because it's Vince and Laurinaitis who did the bulk of the abuse. It makes the strongest case to focus on them as the main actors. If there's other women and if Brock had a hand in sexual assaulting any of them, then they can still take him down even if he's not a 'big enough part' of one specific case. It all depends on what the investigation finds, but if his hands are dirty, he might still get caught in this net. Couldn't you replace 'Brock' with anyone's name there and it'd still be equally as true?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 2, 2024 19:42:25 GMT -5
Sure, but the workings of what a civil trial will target versus what a criminal trial will target are very different. The complaint mentions 'friends' of Vince and infers other events, but they aren't defendants in the suit because it's Vince and Laurinaitis who did the bulk of the abuse. It makes the strongest case to focus on them as the main actors. If there's other women and if Brock had a hand in sexual assaulting any of them, then they can still take him down even if he's not a 'big enough part' of one specific case. It all depends on what the investigation finds, but if his hands are dirty, he might still get caught in this net. Couldn't you replace 'Brock' with anyone's name there and it'd still be equally as true? "Anyone" isn't listed in the complaint as saying "If you didn't do that for me I would have lost interest in you" over a sex trafficking victim recording a video of herself peeing. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.
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Post by City Duck on Feb 2, 2024 19:51:17 GMT -5
The veil protecting Brock's identity in the lawsuit (2024 colorized)
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 2, 2024 20:06:01 GMT -5
Brock strikes me as someone that doesn't give a f*** one way or the other about what will happen going forward. I imagine he's completely content living off grid and the only reason he ever really came back all those times is purely for the $$$, not his reputation. He will care if he’s brought up on human trafficking charges. Not even named in the lawsuit.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 2, 2024 20:38:21 GMT -5
with the Vince case now being federally investigated, I don't think it's gonna blow over any time soon. Regardless of Brock’s knowledge and culpability in anything related to the Vince (I almost said shitshow) just down right awfulness I’d be surprised if they ever bring him back just because the first thing you’re gonna think of is the McMahon scandal and I think they wanna avoid that altogether.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 2, 2024 20:50:21 GMT -5
He will care if he’s brought up on human trafficking charges. Not even named in the lawsuit. That won't matter if a DA thinks it's worth bringing even lesser criminal charges against him.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 3, 2024 4:17:44 GMT -5
Couldn't you replace 'Brock' with anyone's name there and it'd still be equally as true? "Anyone" isn't listed in the complaint as saying "If you didn't do that for me I would have lost interest in you" over a sex trafficking victim recording a video of herself peeing. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. The post you quoted said it would be a stretch to think Brock is in danger of criminal charges based on what we know. You said that if there are other women who come forward and if he has played a part in sexually assaulting them, then that could change. Of course it could... but the same applies to anyone who is subsequently found to have done something illegal. It doesn't change that, currently, there's no real reason to think Brock is facing criminal charges based on what is in the complaint. That doesn't mean he's immune from criminal charges in the future but that's obvious.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 3, 2024 4:41:22 GMT -5
"Anyone" isn't listed in the complaint as saying "If you didn't do that for me I would have lost interest in you" over a sex trafficking victim recording a video of herself peeing. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. The post you quoted said it would be a stretch to think Brock is in danger of criminal charges based on what we know. You said that if there are other women who come forward and if he has played a part in sexually assaulting them, then that could change. Of course it could... but the same applies to anyone who is subsequently found to have done something illegal. It doesn't change that, currently, there's no real reason to think Brock is facing criminal charges based on what is in the complaint. That doesn't mean he's immune from criminal charges in the future but that's obvious. It's not about 'subsequently' being found to do anything illegal. There is a federal investigation into Vince's actions against multiple women, and there may well be more yet to be uncovered. Brock's involvement in this one case at least signals a stronger speculative ground he may have participated in the exploitation of other women. "Anyone" could be cooked up into any scenario, sure, yeah. But Brock only didn't rape this woman himself because of inclement weather, which raises a lot of ugly questions about what else he's done. This specific complaint probably does not open him up to charges, no, but his behavior as described certainly correlates a stronger chance that he was involved with other women Vince did similar things to. "A would-be rapist probably did other rape" is my thesis statement here.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 3, 2024 4:45:19 GMT -5
At absolute best Brock was aware he was engaging in an arrangement for someone he shared a mutual boss with to do sexual favors for him on behalf of that boss as a contract negotiation point while he was himself married and then he subsequently berated her after she did so. Like the most flattering depiction of him here is that he's a cheating asshole taking advantage of a situation where any ability to consent is generously described as murky and then is subsequently demeaning about it for no particular reason, and even that's entirely assuming that this arrangement only happened the one time with the one woman.
Then when you bring in stuff like him storming out after Vince initially left, Vince pretending to be him during sex, and the fact he's previously been known to travel on Vince's private plane with him and it is exceedingly likely that he knew of and took part in a LOT worse than that, on multiple occasions.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 3, 2024 4:56:26 GMT -5
Also I'm not 1000% but I'm pretty sure forcing someone to record pornographic material against their will is a crime. It wouldn't be what she might want to pursue for the sake of a focused case but he could absolutely eat it on this accusation if that's pursued.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 3, 2024 5:35:57 GMT -5
For all the cost cutting Nick khan has done over the last several years, Brock is arguably a paycheck they can stand to do without. Especially since it’s not like he can use the threat of UFC as leverage.
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