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Post by HIM on Feb 10, 2024 19:03:45 GMT -5
I don't think they need another mega-run if Cody wins the championship. It can last a few months before he drops it to someone else (preferably not right back to Roman). I'm pretty tired of year+ long runs where it'd be a nice change of pace for wrestling in general. Just as long as he doesn't get jobbed out in seconds like Kofi did to Lesnar. But he's gotta get there first. As Jon "Stugotz" Weiner would say "Do it in the playoffs." Cody is at the crossroads (pun not intended) where he can either be Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. I'd be surprised if he isn't cashed in on by Priest or whoever wins the next MITB. He's the perfect type of character to make a super heel and he's also great enough in chase that they're probably confident in the booking. He's probably losing that at Summerslam the latest.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 10, 2024 19:06:17 GMT -5
I'd say he already is but that is because we all know Roman won't likely do this for that much longer. If you really want to cement Cody as a long term guy, he has to win the title at Mania.
If he doesn't win... He'll still be the guy for a bit but I think it would go from years to months.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 10, 2024 19:09:47 GMT -5
Seriously, WWE should just strap Cody up at Mania. You risk pissing off the many fans who expressed loudly and angrily that they wanted to see Cody finish the story, even over a would-be conquering hero return for The Rock, if they don't have him win.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2024 19:10:05 GMT -5
I'll get back to you on that after Mania. Yeah, this is where I am at. If he wins, absolutely. If he doesn't, he's still probably the top face by a strong margin, but it'd mean Roman was still the guy.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Feb 10, 2024 19:21:44 GMT -5
So my consumption of wrestling is basically limited to whatever I read on here as I have other things that take up a lot of my time, but I did want to know:
Did WWE pivot from Rock/Roman to Cody/Roman because of fan backlash or is it generally agreed that Rock coming in and doing all that was part of the plan all along?
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Post by Woo on Feb 10, 2024 19:35:06 GMT -5
He could be. But then so could have many other guys they fumbled. We shall see what happens at Mania. Like almost anyone that has faced Roman could have been the guy. But they basically killed their momentum with this run. Hell remember when the crowd went nuts for Cesaro? Only for Roman to basically no sell all of his offense... then Roman, Seth, and Jey beat the shit out of him after the match to make sure you understood that he was a loser? Cesaro, Zayn, Bryan etc all could have been "the guy".
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Feb 10, 2024 19:35:48 GMT -5
I don't think they need another mega-run if Cody wins the championship. It can last a few months before he drops it to someone else (preferably not right back to Roman). I'm pretty tired of year+ long runs where it'd be a nice change of pace for wrestling in general. Just as long as he doesn't get jobbed out in seconds like Kofi did to Lesnar. But he's gotta get there first. As Jon "Stugotz" Weiner would say "Do it in the playoffs." Cody is at the crossroads (pun not intended) where he can either be Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. I'd be surprised if he isn't cashed in on by Priest or whoever wins the next MITB. He's the perfect type of character to make a super heel and he's also great enough in chase that they're probably confident in the booking. He's probably losing that at Summerslam the latest.
To continue the Austin comparison someone else did, Austin lost the belt immediately after SummerSlam and it set up the next 8 months of main event stories perfectly
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 10, 2024 20:40:59 GMT -5
Like almost anyone that has faced Roman could have been the guy. But they basically killed their momentum with this run. Hell remember when the crowd went nuts for Cesaro? Only for Roman to basically no sell all of his offense... then Roman, Seth, and Jey beat the shit out of him after the match to make sure you understood that he was a loser? Cesaro, Zayn, Bryan etc all could have been "the guy". Finn... the demonic come back was cheesy as hell but the crowd were 100% sold on it... until the rope snapped for no reason and that was the end of it.
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Post by ghost on Feb 10, 2024 20:52:36 GMT -5
If John Cena in his prime was universally cheered by the fans, that's what Cody is now.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 10, 2024 21:23:44 GMT -5
I don't think they need another mega-run if Cody wins the championship. It can last a few months before he drops it to someone else (preferably not right back to Roman). I'm pretty tired of year+ long runs where it'd be a nice change of pace for wrestling in general. Just as long as he doesn't get jobbed out in seconds like Kofi did to Lesnar. But he's gotta get there first. As Jon "Stugotz" Weiner would say "Do it in the playoffs." Cody is at the crossroads (pun not intended) where he can either be Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. Cody just needs to have 3 or 4 solid defenses to be seen as an all-time guy, IMO. Even if all his defenses are against borderline guys like Kofi's were, as long as he doesn't lose it in a squash (DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THAT WITH BRON BREAKKER, WWE), He'd be established as a beloved (and also PR-friendly) guy who didn't feel like Management's Favorite, and main evented Big Time PPV/PLEs.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 10, 2024 21:50:32 GMT -5
He’s absolutely being positioned as “The Guy”. Seth has never quite clicked in the “face of the company”spot, CM Punk’s body can’t be relied on to be “The Guy” and Roman barely works as champ, I doubt that changes when he’s not champ. He’s basically gonna be the new Lesnar going forward.
Until Bron Breaker is ready, who else do they even have for that role even if it wasn’t incredibly obvious Cody should be in that role
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Feb 10, 2024 23:32:17 GMT -5
I don't think they need another mega-run if Cody wins the championship. It can last a few months before he drops it to someone else (preferably not right back to Roman). I'm pretty tired of year+ long runs where it'd be a nice change of pace for wrestling in general. Just as long as he doesn't get jobbed out in seconds like Kofi did to Lesnar. But he's gotta get there first. As Jon "Stugotz" Weiner would say "Do it in the playoffs." Cody is at the crossroads (pun not intended) where he can either be Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. And then he's gotta do it again. And then maybe I'll consider him The Guy in my personal record book.
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Post by schma on Feb 11, 2024 0:22:57 GMT -5
I don’t understand why WWE doesn’t have Roman, Cody, Becky and Seth just say they’re “The Ace”. Ace sounds so much cooler than “The Guy”. Or is that too tied to Japanese wrestling? With Becky, the 'Man' moniker makes sense since it came out of a Flair feud. For the rest they could probably start saying Ace, it just might take a while to catch on. I had never heard the term until it started being brought up in this forum. I suspect the general audience is relatively unfamiliar with Japanese wrestling. That said, it likely wouldn't take much to establish the term.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 11, 2024 0:46:40 GMT -5
I think if Cody were like 5-10 years younger he could absolutely surpass Cena. But he’s at the age that Cena started winding down at. If he wins at mania I see him being THE Guy for maybe 2 years while they build up Bron, Trick, Melo ect.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 11, 2024 1:06:52 GMT -5
So my consumption of wrestling is basically limited to whatever I read on here as I have other things that take up a lot of my time, but I did want to know: Did WWE pivot from Rock/Roman to Cody/Roman because of fan backlash or is it generally agreed that Rock coming in and doing all that was part of the plan all along? Probably fan backlash caused them to pivot. They almost certainly were going to do Rock vs Reigns, the "Just not at Wrestlemania" line from Cody being the biggest tell.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Feb 11, 2024 1:36:40 GMT -5
I've never fully understood the concept of someone needing to be "The Guy" all the time. There could be more than one face of the company.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 11, 2024 1:45:15 GMT -5
I've never fully understood the concept of someone needing to be "The Guy" all the time. There could be more than one face of the company. I think the issue there is, they can create a scenario where multiple guys are over at that level, but as long there's a plot device that dictates that one (1) of them is the best of them at any given time, the WWE Championship, there's gonna be a top guy by default. The only way to attempt to completely eliminate the concept is to not have championship belts.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 11, 2024 2:19:38 GMT -5
He's the top male babyface in wrestling. He's a made man
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Post by Squirrel Master on Feb 11, 2024 3:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 11, 2024 3:46:33 GMT -5
Also he can't be the guy without wearing a little red cape everywhere and literally everything trying to kill him >_>
Them's the rules!
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