BCC vs CMLL would certainly appear to be done…

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

x.com/wrestlepurists/status/1762927615663333568?s=12&t=8rb0VM30L3tBs0ycbjlibw

U.S work visas for nearly 20 CMLL stars in Mexico are in the process of being canceled by the United States government.

19 luchadors including the following are expected to be impacted and unable to perform in the United States -

Volador Jr.
Hechicero
Mascara Dorada
Blue Panther
Soberano
Templario,
Dulce Gardenia
El Sagrado
El Suicida
Electrico
Espiritu Negro,
Euforia,
Fugaz,
Gemelo Diablo 1 and 2,
Magico,
Robin,
Sangre Imperial,
referee Sagaz

It could take months for new visas to go through the approval process and be issued.

- PWInsider

[bob]

BCC can go to Mexico...... but this really sucks

I loved their interactions

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The US Government denying us any further Heichicero is enough for me to hate them by itself

[GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY]

Looks to me like CMLL got cocky and f***ed over all their wrestlers from what’s out there online, I’d be pissed if I was them or AEW

[Dub H]

There is no country that getting visas, of any kind, is more of a pain than the US

[bob]

Feb 28, 2024 19:14:38 GMT -5 Dub H said:

There is no country that getting visas, of any kind, is more of a pain than the US

[Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000]

I'm American, but our work visa system seems like a huge pain in the ass.

[Georgina's Fancy Water]

Gonna put the PWInsider report in here because good god 

In speaking to sources close to the situation, the visa blowup is a result of Texas independent wrestling promotion Full Blown Pro Wrestling, which runs Laredo and who had essentially sponsored the group visas for the CMLL talents, running into issues with CMLL management over the course of the visa process. PWInsider is told that CMLL head Salvador Lutteroth had placed other employees, one of whom was heading up the legal department for CMLL but has since left the promotion, in charge of the visa process on CMLL's end.

PWInsider.com is told that the United States Department of Homeland Security contacted Full Blown Pro Wrestling promoter Jerry Cadena with questions regarding the visas (PWInsider.com has not confirmed the specificity of the issue) and that he was informed that he could be accused of fraud if the visas were flagged due to the issue.

As the story goes, Cadena then contacted CMLL about working together to iron out the problem but CMLL's side claimed they would take care of the issue via the United States Embassy in Mexico and wouldn't respond beyond that statement. It should be noted that the Department of Homeland Security, not the Embassy for a specific country, actually issues the work visas here in the United States. We are told by one source that the belief on the CMLL side was they would be able to handle it as a family member works for The Embassy. Whether that could actually be the case remains to be seen.

However with CMLL no longer communicating with Cadena, but his name remaining on the line legally, the word is that he informed the United States Government he no longer had any intentions of working with CMLL going forward and that any agreements he signed to work with their talents were being terminated as of 2/28, which would be today.

So, what does this mean?

Unless there is some sort of miracle to sort this out, which seems unlikely, the aforementioned talents would not be able to travel into the United States legally to perform until a new work visa is acquired for them. We are told such a process could take a few months if everyone involved pays some pretty expensive fees to expedite everything and if everything goes as smoothly as possible, but at times the work visa process could take upwards of six to twelve months.

So, CMLL talents advertised for Wrestlemania weekend events in Philadelphia, New Japan Pro Wrestling's Windy City Riot, etc. may not actually be able to make those dates and perform - again, unless there is some sort of resolution - or someone spends a LOT of money to get the new visas in place while hoping they will be done in time for those big shows here in the United States this Spring.

More as we confirm.

[Dub H]

Feb 28, 2024 19:18:10 GMT -5 Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 said:

I'm American, but our work visa system seems like a huge pain in the ass.

I travelled to japan a couple of times.

And I checked, every country with stops has no travel visa requirement,except Canada which you only need an online ticket.

Except the US, where you need to travel to my country's capital, have the ticket bought, show then after waiting on line all morning, for a chance of then saying yes.And you need to pay 200 Dollars for that.


All that for a 3 Hour Layover.

[Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000]

Feb 28, 2024 19:21:45 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Feb 28, 2024 19:18:10 GMT -5 Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 said:

I'm American, but our work visa system seems like a huge pain in the ass.

I travelled to japan a couple of times.

And I checked, every country with stops has no travel visa requirement,except Canada which you only need an online ticket.

Except the US, where you need to travel to my country's capital, have the ticket bought, show then after waiting on line all morning, for a chance of then saying yes.And you need to pay 200 Dollars for that.

[Cyno]

This is a real shame. I don't know if I'm Tony Khan if I'd continue that relationship with CMLL. Sounds like a massive f***up on their end.

[Tenshigure]

Feb 28, 2024 19:21:14 GMT -5 Georgina's Fancy Water said:

Gonna put the PWInsider report in here because good god 

Christ, that is some real carny bullshit there by CMLL. The expected a third-party promoter to take care of their talent's visas, and then get shocked when he pulls out after being threatened by DHS (and understandably so may I add)? Now not only are the vast majority of CMLL talent listed in danger of not performing during their biggest payday weekends for WrestleMania, but they could also be facing the same shit Mike Bailey went through a couple years back where he flat-out got banned from the country for five years. That's not even including the additional pain AEW now has to deal with adjusting their plans after devoting TV time to that CMLL mini-invasion for a bit. If it were any other business I'd say this would be a move that would kill any CMLL talent coming into the US (and with it, anyone wanting to work with CMLL), but pro wrestling's never been smart about business to begin with...

[Hypnosis]

Feb 28, 2024 19:23:29 GMT -5 Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 said:

Feb 28, 2024 19:21:45 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I travelled to japan a couple of times.

And I checked, every country with stops has no travel visa requirement,except Canada which you only need an online ticket.

Except the US, where you need to travel to my country's capital, have the ticket bought, show then after waiting on line all morning, for a chance of then saying yes.And you need to pay 200 Dollars for that.

Land of the Price-Gouging.

[Allie Kitsune]

Another mass exodus to AAA coming?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Feb 28, 2024 19:13:47 GMT -5 GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY said:

Looks to me like CMLL got cocky and f***ed over all their wrestlers from what’s out there online, I’d be pissed if I was them or AEW

These guys get their best mainstream exposure maybe ever and the company f***s them over... I'd remember that come contract re-up time.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I don't think this ends the CMLL partnership but that's a lot of luchadores that might simply vanish

A lot of wrestlers who have already appeared aren't on this list, Mistico, Esfinge, Star Jr. Atlantis and Atlantis Jr tonight, among others

But that doesn't excuse how f***ing shit this is for all the ones effected, guys like Heichicero were a revelation for a lot of US fans and now they might not see them again for months because CMLL ddespite being 100 years old, are still run by f***ing morons.

Would not be shocked if a lot of the talents effected by this leave CMLL as a whole, because they're getting screwed for no reason.

[chrom]

This is why Mexican promotions will never be able to expand outside Mexico and into the US.

[King Devitt]

Feb 28, 2024 19:23:29 GMT -5 Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 said:

Feb 28, 2024 19:21:45 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I travelled to japan a couple of times.

And I checked, every country with stops has no travel visa requirement,except Canada which you only need an online ticket.

Except the US, where you need to travel to my country's capital, have the ticket bought, show then after waiting on line all morning, for a chance of then saying yes.And you need to pay 200 Dollars for that.

Love it or leave it until we f***ing MAKE YOU LEAVE!

(even if you love it!)

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Well, so much for Gringo Loco vs. Volador Jr. at Spring Break this year.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

"We know a guy in the embassy" is so unreal that I'm kind of in awe. CMLL gonna keep CMLL-ing.