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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 4, 2024 1:33:39 GMT -5
I think the dumbest part of that spot was the glass flying to the audience that could've potentially done some damage. They're very lucky that didn't happen. Ultimately, it was dumb all around cause it did nothing to help the match except add a viral moment for Sting last match Sting is the draw, you didn't need to do all that and please stop using real glass. That took Darby out for the whole rest of the match and he looked in a lot of pain Yeah, that doesn't even look like "windshield glass" that when shatters shatters into balls... it looked like regular ass glass... I just hope he’s healthy enough in his old age that we don’t end up having to look back on all this crazy shit and be like “Why did everybody allow him to do this?”. Honestly, my first thought was his big thing about Sting and about how wrestlers rarely get to go out on their own or end up being an embarrassment... which was "keep doing this shit you aren't retiring on your own power or you'll be the next Jeff Hardy barely mobile and still trying to get the crowd to pop by doing stupid things when your body is completely broken down.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 4, 2024 1:34:00 GMT -5
On one hand, the visual and audacity of the spot was cool.
On the other hand, the fact he started leaking blood from so many spots on his arms and back like he was a pasta strainer is not cool, and he looked like a good damn slasher victim by the time he got back into the ring for the finish. And on top of that he's going to be spending hours now with doctors plucking tiny shards of glass from his body, and they very well may not find all of them. So as a net total, IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. For the love of god never do that again, and if Tony had any sort of sense in his head, he'd see the reactions to this spot(not to mention the immediate fallout from the spot itself, and of course the legal ramifications he by some sheer luck seems to be avoiding from apparently none of the shattered glass cutting the crowd), and put an immediate ban on real glass going forward. Sugar glass or no glass at all, folks.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Mar 4, 2024 1:48:21 GMT -5
That's just uh... raspberry jam! “Only one man would ever dare give me the raspberry…LONESTAR!!!”
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on Mar 4, 2024 2:03:42 GMT -5
That spot may have been the definition of "not worth it." That was an absolutely terrific PPV, great send off for Sting, etc. It did NOT need that spot or glass at all, for that matter. I can understand that it may have been from the same place as Mick doing the HIAC spot(s), but those spots became both iconic and a perfect reminder of doing something that the fans will look back at fondly at great personal expense. Darby did not look okay after that spot, and it was terribly reckless to do multiple glass spots that could, and possibly did, send broken glass shards into the audience.
If someone in the crowd had a glass shard hit their eye socket, AEW is out of business, but I suppose that was worth it to Tony and Darby in order to get the big reaction.
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Post by bearned on Mar 4, 2024 2:22:12 GMT -5
That spot may have been the definition of "not worth it." That was an absolutely terrific PPV, great send off for Sting, etc. It did NOT need that spot or glass at all, for that matter. I can understand that it may have been from the same place as Mick doing the HIAC spot(s), but those spots became both iconic and a perfect reminder of doing something that the fans will look back at fondly at great personal expense. Darby did not look okay after that spot, and it was terribly reckless to do multiple glass spots that could, and possibly did, send broken glass shards into the audience. If someone in the crowd had a glass shard hit their eye socket, AEW is out of business, but I suppose that was worth it to Tony and Darby in order to get the big reaction. I don’t see how it’s necessarily any more risky to the crowd than when they do any other hardcore spots like thumb tacks getting thrown in the ring, tables getting destroyed on the outside, chairs or ladders getting chucked around….or even bumps into the ringside barriers. Now the risk to Darby on the other hand….i mean I guess props to him for the sheer balls to do that spot but at some point they probably need to have someone say ‘maybe not worth it’ when he comes up with this stuff. Awesome visual though.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 4, 2024 2:26:38 GMT -5
That spot may have been the definition of "not worth it." That was an absolutely terrific PPV, great send off for Sting, etc. It did NOT need that spot or glass at all, for that matter. I can understand that it may have been from the same place as Mick doing the HIAC spot(s), but those spots became both iconic and a perfect reminder of doing something that the fans will look back at fondly at great personal expense. Darby did not look okay after that spot, and it was terribly reckless to do multiple glass spots that could, and possibly did, send broken glass shards into the audience. If someone in the crowd had a glass shard hit their eye socket, AEW is out of business, but I suppose that was worth it to Tony and Darby in order to get the big reaction. I don’t see how it’s necessarily any more risky to the crowd than when they do any other hardcore spots like thumb tacks getting thrown in the ring, tables getting destroyed on the outside, chairs or ladders getting chucked around….or even bumps into the ringside barriers. Now the risk to Darby on the other hand….i mean I guess props to him for the sheer balls to do that spot but at some point they probably need to have someone say ‘maybe not worth it’ when he comes up with this stuff. Awesome visual though. what i'd do is tell Darby he's just not allowed to do that except for super special occasions and work that into his gimmick, have it be that he was doing all of this because he wanted to live up to Sting but now that he's on his own he can just straight up wrestle. he's a good wrestler. until someone pisses him off enough a year or two from now where he's so mad/stakes are so high that he can pull something out like this. maybe 10% of what this was cause this shit was flat out ridiculous. i don't think AEW or Darby is any worse for doing the spot but I do hope Darby takes a step back and saves stuff like that as much as possible.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 2:27:28 GMT -5
That spot may have been the definition of "not worth it." That was an absolutely terrific PPV, great send off for Sting, etc. It did NOT need that spot or glass at all, for that matter. I can understand that it may have been from the same place as Mick doing the HIAC spot(s), but those spots became both iconic and a perfect reminder of doing something that the fans will look back at fondly at great personal expense. Darby did not look okay after that spot, and it was terribly reckless to do multiple glass spots that could, and possibly did, send broken glass shards into the audience. If someone in the crowd had a glass shard hit their eye socket, AEW is out of business, but I suppose that was worth it to Tony and Darby in order to get the big reaction. The glass was likely gimmicked in terms of the one they threw Sting into. The glass Darby went into on the outside might've been less so, all depends, gimmicked glass from that height? Might've still done enough to his body to make it look like that. It's not the first or last time stuff might've flown into the crowd and been a hazard, wrestling events have always done this, hell remember when Brock threw a car door and it HIT a fan? I guess in the same token WWE's lucky that didn't effect them either A crazy spot, likely planned out well in advance, and Darby knew he was taking months off so he figured "Why not?", Sting would have denied it if he didn't feel like it was worth it, weird to blame Tony and Darby and leave out the guy who likely spot for spot decided how this would go, including the glass.
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Post by BigPoppaNasty on Mar 4, 2024 2:33:15 GMT -5
That spot may have been the definition of "not worth it." That was an absolutely terrific PPV, great send off for Sting, etc. It did NOT need that spot or glass at all, for that matter. I can understand that it may have been from the same place as Mick doing the HIAC spot(s), but those spots became both iconic and a perfect reminder of doing something that the fans will look back at fondly at great personal expense. Darby did not look okay after that spot, and it was terribly reckless to do multiple glass spots that could, and possibly did, send broken glass shards into the audience. If someone in the crowd had a glass shard hit their eye socket, AEW is out of business, but I suppose that was worth it to Tony and Darby in order to get the big reaction. The glass was likely gimmicked in terms of the one they threw Sting into. The glass Darby went into on the outside might've been less so, all depends, gimmicked glass from that height? Might've still done enough to his body to make it look like that. It's not the first or last time stuff might've flown into the crowd and been a hazard, wrestling events have always done this, hell remember when Brock threw a car door and it HIT a fan? I guess in the same token WWE's lucky that didn't effect them either A crazy spot, likely planned out well in advance, and Darby knew he was taking months off so he figured "Why not?", Sting would have denied it if he didn't feel like it was worth it, weird to blame Tony and Darby and leave out the guy who likely spot for spot decided how this would go, including the glass. Who booked the spot? Who approved the spot? Who performed the (big) spot? That's why I mentioned Tony and Darby, but if you insist I also mention Sting, then Sting is a fool for doing a hyper dangerous, reckless spot, too. Also, you seemed to imply that I was only lambasting AEW for doing dangerous spots while apparently ignoring that I mentioned the Foley HIAC spot as being in a similar vein. A super dangerous spot that may be very memorable but is almost certainly not worth the hazard it caused to the performer's body.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 4:01:34 GMT -5
The glass was likely gimmicked in terms of the one they threw Sting into. The glass Darby went into on the outside might've been less so, all depends, gimmicked glass from that height? Might've still done enough to his body to make it look like that. It's not the first or last time stuff might've flown into the crowd and been a hazard, wrestling events have always done this, hell remember when Brock threw a car door and it HIT a fan? I guess in the same token WWE's lucky that didn't effect them either A crazy spot, likely planned out well in advance, and Darby knew he was taking months off so he figured "Why not?", Sting would have denied it if he didn't feel like it was worth it, weird to blame Tony and Darby and leave out the guy who likely spot for spot decided how this would go, including the glass. Who booked the spot? Who approved the spot? Who performed the (big) spot? That's why I mentioned Tony and Darby, but if you insist I also mention Sting, then Sting is a fool for doing a hyper dangerous, reckless spot, too. Also, you seemed to imply that I was only lambasting AEW for doing dangerous spots while apparently ignoring that I mentioned the Foley HIAC spot as being in a similar vein. A super dangerous spot that may be very memorable but is almost certainly not worth the hazard it caused to the performer's body. I think there was a measure of danger to it but there's a measure of danger in everything It was the last match, I get why they did it, and we'll probably never see it again
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Post by Andee9001 on Mar 4, 2024 4:32:56 GMT -5
When i watch wrestling i prefer to see the wrestlers NOT get hurt.
Yeah i know wrestling is painful, spots hurt, all that jazz but like come on now. That didn't need to happen. It's just a wreckless spot for the sake of it. Seeing Darby cut up like that, blood oozing out of him just isn't something i want to see. I don't get enjoyment from that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 4:49:27 GMT -5
When i watch wrestling i prefer to see the wrestlers NOT get hurt. Yeah i know wrestling is painful, spots hurt, all that jazz but like come on now. That didn't need to happen. It's just a wreckless spot for the sake of it. Seeing Darby cut up like that, blood oozing out of him just isn't something i want to see. I don't get enjoyment from that. I gonna imagine he wasn't supposed to bleed THAT much, but things happen As I said even if it was gimmicked glass the impact and all that still probably cut him up a bit
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 4, 2024 5:24:46 GMT -5
I'll be blunt: It was a stupid f***ing spot that absolutely 100% didn't need to happen and added nothing to the match except legit concern the guy *actually* hurt significantly himself. I don't ever want to see anyone in *any* company try it again
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 4, 2024 6:26:50 GMT -5
I'm not into Darby and his death stunts and I don't think the match and Sting's moment needed it, to be honest.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 6:34:11 GMT -5
I'm not into Darby and his death stunts and I don't think the match and Sting's moment needed it, to be honest. Given how Sting's whole run went, I'm not really shocked they happened Especially after the build went and the Bucks wore their blood covered suits for a week
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 4, 2024 6:49:01 GMT -5
Darby’s unique in that every thing he does makes me think he’s a bigger clown than he was before. Usually if you don’t like a performer, they’ll still manage to pull out even just a line in a promo that you’ll be like “I’ll give it to them, that was a good one” but somehow this f***ing dope just keeps digging up.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 6:52:40 GMT -5
Darby’s unique in that every thing he does makes me think he’s a bigger clown than he was before. Usually if you don’t like a performer, they’ll still manage to pull out even just a line in a promo that you’ll be like “I’ll give it to them, that was a good one” but somehow this f***ing dope just keeps digging up. Kind of surprised at this take because imo Darby's given some really nice promos and had really nice technical wrestling matches with no crazy shit in them throughout his AEW tenure Like fair if you don't like the crazy spots but I find it hard to call Darby a "clown", like he can very clearly wrestle when he's just wrestling and he's had good promos when given the opportunity to speak like with MJF in my honest opinion.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 4, 2024 6:59:41 GMT -5
Darby's a grown man and there's enough out there about the long term effects of all of this that he can make his own decisions on what he wants to do.
However, this spot was still awful. People brought up the HIAC spots, but at least they put the Undertaker over as a monster who was trying to kill Mankind.
This was just a guy front flipping himself through glass and cutting his body up. Beyond the stupidity of it, I don't see why that's in any way impressive or adds to any story.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 4, 2024 7:03:33 GMT -5
friends and I have had a debate since last night that is still ongoing between would you rather take that glass spot or the gnarly steel steps spot in the match he had with christian cage
crazy as it might sound I think I’d take the glass and hope it was just superficial injuries. I won’t deny the initial awe of the stunt was incredible but I hope he stops and also wonder if he has some sort of death wish at times lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 7:21:55 GMT -5
Darby's a grown man and there's enough out there about the long term effects of all of this that he can make his own decisions on what he wants to do. However, this spot was still awful. People brought up the HIAC spots, but at least they put the Undertaker over as a monster who was trying to kill Mankind. This was just a guy front flipping himself through glass and cutting his body up. Beyond the stupidity of it, I don't see why that's in any way impressive or adds to any story. He was trying to destroy Matt Jackson, and he didn't care if he took himself out to do it Nick moved him out of the way, he crashed and burned, and was out for a large portion of the remainder of the match It added to the story pretty clearly that it turned Sting's match into a near handicap for the rest of the way until Darby could catch The Bucks at a weak moment and use what he had left to take Nick Jackson out and hit Matt with the Coffin Drop/Deathlock combo and win the match Your argument can very easily be "There are other spots you could have done", fair, but there was story aspect to it in that visually and as a spot, it definitely looked like Darby wasn't coming back, and the crowd roared to life when he did.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 4, 2024 7:22:41 GMT -5
A positive, in the Sting Speech, when you see the wrestlers on the ramp, the first person to talk to Darby and likely tell him he was a crazy motherf***er was Swerve, and I thought that was wholesome lol
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