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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 8, 2024 14:11:29 GMT -5
I know this was a long time coming, and I know that this is who he always was (mid-aughts NY news radio Kevin Kelly who had his own weird calls on who to blame 9/11 and the Iraq War on are still remember by the two or three dozen people who heard it) but I think going public pissbaby like this so rapidly is still pretty staggering. On top of that, having such transparency to say "I have no problem with child traffickers, I hate child trafficking" in so many different ways is so dumb. Throwing it all away for 'Sound of Freedom.' What a way to go out, out like a sucker. All of this to support/not support/not think anything of/think everything of a guy who has celebrities and donors strap up in military surplus gear alongside his buddies, stalk around Central American countries hounding sex workers and local police while listening to, no joke, an on-the-payroll psychic who helps them find allegedly exploited children, and then on the rare occasion they do stumble on anything credible or get a police department in those countries to work with them, they make a giant overstep of their own role in an existing investigation, shove cameras in the face of scared children, and ultimately provide them with no care, resources, or support to even begin to help them avoid meeting the same fate when they're just kinda released back out into the world like caught fish. It's just like, the shittest possible guy to burn your career in wrestling up for.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2024 14:15:05 GMT -5
I know this was a long time coming, and I know that this is who he always was (mid-aughts NY news radio Kevin Kelly who had his own weird calls on who to blame 9/11 and the Iraq War on are still remember by the two or three dozen people who heard it) but I think going public pissbaby like this so rapidly is still pretty staggering. On top of that, having such transparency to say "I have no problem with child traffickers, I hate child trafficking" in so many different ways is so dumb. Throwing it all away for 'Sound of Freedom.' What a way to go out, out like a sucker. All of this to support/not support/not think anything of/think everything of a guy who has celebrities and donors strap up in military surplus gear alongside his buddies, stalk around Central American countries hounding sex workers and local police while listening to, no joke, an on-the-payroll psychic who helps them find allegedly exploited children, and then on the rare occasion they do stumble on anything credible or get a police department in those countries to work with them, they make a giant overstep of their own role in an existing investigation, shove cameras in the face of scared children, and ultimately provide them with no care, resources, or support to even begin to help them avoid meeting the same fate when they're just kinda released back out into the world like caught fish. It's just like, the shittest possible guy to burn your career in wrestling up for. The entire thing is to let the people "fighting" human trafficking play out a badass hero fantasy when they're actually doing more harm than good for the cause of ending it.
It's like how crappy those shows like "To Catch a Predator" ended up being to an even more serious, dangerous degree.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 8, 2024 14:26:29 GMT -5
All of this to support/not support/not think anything of/think everything of a guy who has celebrities and donors strap up in military surplus gear alongside his buddies, stalk around Central American countries hounding sex workers and local police while listening to, no joke, an on-the-payroll psychic who helps them find allegedly exploited children, and then on the rare occasion they do stumble on anything credible or get a police department in those countries to work with them, they make a giant overstep of their own role in an existing investigation, shove cameras in the face of scared children, and ultimately provide them with no care, resources, or support to even begin to help them avoid meeting the same fate when they're just kinda released back out into the world like caught fish. It's just like, the shittest possible guy to burn your career in wrestling up for. The entire thing is to let the people "fighting" human trafficking play out a badass hero fantasy when they're actually doing more harm than good for the cause of ending it.
It's like how crappy those shows like "To Catch a Predator" ended up being to an even more serious, dangerous degree.
The optics of big tough guy heroism military fetish good guy shit lets them act like there's a specific paradigm of good and evil that is kind of central to the overall QAnon narrative, but even beyond the conspiracy sdtuff letsp eople find comfort in a distorted reality where big evil gangs of kidnappers are responsible for the crimes, because the actual truths about sex trafficking and rape, and who perpetrates it, are deeply uncomfortable for people to face. It's easier to pretend there's tons of evil bad guys than look into how many people are trafficked by family members, intimate partners, or those close to them. It's not even the only form that this shit takes; the "kidnappers are leaving $100 bills laced with fentanyl on women's windshields so they can capture them when they're going to their cars" scaremongering TikToks are a form of it, too. Good guy narratives do a lot, but there's an inherent want to be distracted and to sensationalize that paradoxically provides comfort by pushing the crime onto an othered, nefarious group and removing it from the idea it's happening in your neighborhood, while also putting yo uin eternal, everlasting fear, because sometimes people find strength in the idea of fear and in believing there's so much danger and such high stakes that their paranoid awareness of it will protect them.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 8, 2024 14:38:10 GMT -5
it’s a shame it didn’t happen sooner and I’ll be real here, he is a huge reason why I barely watch collision! at any given time on that show, it felt like you’d get some pretty good action but something would be so obnoxious and overshadow all of it. at one time it was him and punk, then it was the ftr and him show.
now the last few times I’ve watched the show you can feel Nigel and Tony being like “uh alright then moving on” multiple times a night and I can’t handle that. do you know how cringe the shit you’re saying has to be to make me tap out of watching professional wrestling? I’m cringe concentrate and I couldn’t handle his ass, imagine some person briefly tuning in 😭
as for him as the human being, I’m so sick and tired of these guys. i miss when the internet was cat gifs and badgers, please give us that back instead of uncle kevin yelling about jfk jr coming back from the dead because they’re putting gay tonic in the sonic drive in ocean water
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Post by dav on Mar 8, 2024 14:40:52 GMT -5
The entire thing is to let the people "fighting" human trafficking play out a badass hero fantasy when they're actually doing more harm than good for the cause of ending it.
It's like how crappy those shows like "To Catch a Predator" ended up being to an even more serious, dangerous degree.
The optics of big tough guy heroism military fetish good guy shit lets them act like there's a specific paradigm of good and evil that is kind of central to the overall QAnon narrative, but even beyond the conspiracy sdtuff letsp eople find comfort in a distorted reality where big evil gangs of kidnappers are responsible for the crimes, because the actual truths about sex trafficking and rape, and who perpetrates it, are deeply uncomfortable for people to face. It's easier to pretend there's tons of evil bad guys than look into how many people are trafficked by family members, intimate partners, or those close to them. It's not even the only form that this shit takes; the "kidnappers are leaving $100 bills laced with fentanyl on women's windshields so they can capture them when they're going to their cars" scaremongering TikToks are a form of it, too. Good guy narratives do a lot, but there's an inherent want to be distracted and to sensationalize that paradoxically provides comfort by pushing the crime onto an othered, nefarious group and removing it from the idea it's happening in your neighborhood, while also putting yo uin eternal, everlasting fear, because sometimes people find strength in the idea of fear and in believing there's so much danger and such high stakes that their paranoid awareness of it will protect them. “It was because he wanted there to be conspirators. It was much better to imagine men in some smoky room somewhere, made mad and cynical by privilege and power, plotting over the brandy. You had to cling to this sort of image, because if you didn't then you might have to face the fact that bad things happened because ordinary people, the kind who brushed the dog and told their children bedtime stories, were capable of then going out and doing horrible things to other ordinary people. It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, then what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.” ― Terry Pratchett, Jingo
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Post by Dub H on Mar 8, 2024 14:56:42 GMT -5
I assume khan planned to keep the contract until it ran out and was looking to give him different roles to the one of commentary but then he ran his mouth
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 8, 2024 15:10:50 GMT -5
Why are like 90% of people with dog avatars on Twitter assholes? They figure that puppy cuteness will be a diversion from them acting like a buttburger.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Mar 8, 2024 15:12:00 GMT -5
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Mar 8, 2024 15:14:55 GMT -5
I don't know what he was thinking here. AEW has been cracking down on people publicly airing their dirty laundry, and as if that's not bad enough he did it right before a PPV which I imagine is a time AEW really doesn't want any kind of negative attention. Then he follows up by doing the most typical thing of this current era when actions yield consequences, instead of taking any accountability for his mistakes follows up with "It wasn't anything I did wrong, it was just that (insert vaguely defined enemy subgroup here) doesn't like what I have to say."
Good riddance.
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Post by bearned on Mar 8, 2024 15:52:20 GMT -5
I don't know what he was thinking here. AEW has been cracking down on people publicly airing their dirty laundry, and as if that's not bad enough he did it right before a PPV which I imagine is a time AEW really doesn't want any kind of negative attention. Then he follows up by doing the most typical thing of this current era when actions yield consequences, instead of taking any accountability for his mistakes follows up with "It wasn't anything I did wrong, it was just that (insert vaguely defined enemy subgroup here) doesn't like what I have to say." Good riddance. He probably figured he was getting let go anyways, so decided to have a tantrum on his way out
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2024 16:09:28 GMT -5
Why are like 90% of people with dog avatars on Twitter assholes? They figure that puppy cuteness will be a diversion from them acting like a buttburger. Kevin Kelly does have a pretty adorable dog, too.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 8, 2024 16:20:25 GMT -5
If AEW doesn't have a social media policy in place by now, this is another example of why they should. Employees/talent shouldn't be airing their shoot grievances against other employees/talent on Twitter. Most non-wrestling companies wouldn't tolerate it either if they knew about it.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 8, 2024 17:18:41 GMT -5
If AEW doesn't have a social media policy in place by now, this is another example of why they should. Employees/talent shouldn't be airing their shoot grievances against other employees/talent on Twitter. Most non-wrestling companies wouldn't tolerate it either if they knew about it. They have. Daniel Bryan is on the prowl for anyone violating it
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 8, 2024 17:43:13 GMT -5
They figure that puppy cuteness will be a diversion from them acting like a buttburger. Kevin Kelly does have a pretty adorable dog, too. So does Cody and the only conspiracy he cares about is whatever Heyman’s scheming.
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Post by Soultastic on Mar 8, 2024 17:45:26 GMT -5
If AEW doesn't have a social media policy in place by now, this is another example of why they should. Employees/talent shouldn't be airing their shoot grievances against other employees/talent on Twitter. Most non-wrestling companies wouldn't tolerate it either if they knew about it. They have. Daniel Bryan is on the prowl for anyone violating it He punishes you by putting you in a triangle, shouting about how you can't blow up the moon and then force feeding you "tree semen".
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 8, 2024 17:59:18 GMT -5
If AEW doesn't have a social media policy in place by now, this is another example of why they should. Employees/talent shouldn't be airing their shoot grievances against other employees/talent on Twitter. Most non-wrestling companies wouldn't tolerate it either if they knew about it. I mean they did fire him over it, so technically they didn't tolerate it lol
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Post by chronocross on Mar 8, 2024 18:13:15 GMT -5
Serves him right, Kevin definitely won't be missed.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2024 18:54:30 GMT -5
If AEW doesn't have a social media policy in place by now, this is another example of why they should. Employees/talent shouldn't be airing their shoot grievances against other employees/talent on Twitter. Most non-wrestling companies wouldn't tolerate it either if they knew about it. I mean they did fire him over it, so technically they didn't tolerate it lol I'm pretty sure Ian Riccaboni got disciplined over what started this months ago, too. Then Kelly just dragging it back up out of the ether on such an important time as not just an AEW PPV weekend, but Sting's swan song, and I'm guessing Tony Khan looked at Kelly with red eyes of doom.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Mar 8, 2024 19:00:31 GMT -5
Hope Ian gets to do some shows here and there.
Kevin did not fit and never did.
I guess the only memory I will have of him was calling the APA vs. Public Enemy match and that's only because it's infamous.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2024 19:02:54 GMT -5
Also, Kevin Kelly being fired only a couple of days after Okada debuts means we never have to hear his Rainmaker call in AEW. And I am thankful for that.
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