Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 22, 2024 9:43:55 GMT -5
I'd say maybe he should just go back to WWE, where crowds won't care that he's not a great human being, and overexposed all to hell.
But I think the clock is rapidly ticking on even that.
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Soultastic
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 22, 2024 9:50:17 GMT -5
I mean I asume this is leading to Hook beating him, so I can't really get mad at Jericho winning a belt that's not only nowhere close the main event picture, but is actually fake in kayfabe.
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Post by markymark on Apr 22, 2024 9:51:19 GMT -5
I mean I asume this is leading to Hook beating him, so I can't really get mad at Jericho winning a belt that's not only nowhere close the main event picture, but is actually fake in kayfabe.
They should have Jericho say he is the real World champ but instead of spraying an X on it spray number 9
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Post by Dub H on Apr 22, 2024 9:59:04 GMT -5
I mean I asume this is leading to Hook beating him, so I can't really get mad at Jericho winning a belt that's not only nowhere close the main event picture, but is actually fake in kayfabe.The issue is...HOOK already beat jericho ina FTW title match This is just another example of Jericho feuds being really badly booked and giving Jericho needless wins to extend it
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 22, 2024 10:01:01 GMT -5
I mean I asume this is leading to Hook beating him, so I can't really get mad at Jericho winning a belt that's not only nowhere close the main event picture, but is actually fake in kayfabe.The issue is...HOOK already beat jericho ina FTW title match This is just another example of Jericho feuds being really badly booked and giving Jericho needless wins to extend it Or maybe this is about getting Hook in the ring with a veteran more than once. Sorry, unless Jericho wins the feud, I don't see the issue.
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Post by markymark on Apr 22, 2024 10:01:36 GMT -5
I mean I asume this is leading to Hook beating him, so I can't really get mad at Jericho winning a belt that's not only nowhere close the main event picture, but is actually fake in kayfabe.The issue is...HOOK already beat jericho ina FTW title match This is just another example of Jericho feuds being really badly booked and giving Jericho needless wins to extend it
Their first match was a normal match and the title wasnt on the line, and Hook won with a rollup, if anything now the FTW title has some sort of meaning given how people reacted last night..
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Post by raymondo316 on Apr 22, 2024 10:06:37 GMT -5
I'd say maybe he should just go back to WWE, where crowds won't care that he's not a great human being, and overexposed all to hell. But I think the clock is rapidly ticking on even that. Hes under contract till the end of December 2025 so that isn't an option anytime soon.
Tony seems to love Jericho like he did Punk, so he's seemingly not going to step in and say he needs a long break from all things AEW.
So I'm expecting him to be all over TV till his contract is up, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gives him a new deal.
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Post by markymark on Apr 22, 2024 10:13:07 GMT -5
I still feel if booked correctly the current version of Jericho could end up the closest to his late 2008 persona(that character that was universally "Hated" by everyone")
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 22, 2024 10:39:48 GMT -5
The fun irony is that Jericho is now everything he hated when he was doing his feud vs the various legends in the 'Mania 25 build, except that fans still cheered those guys and well, they sure as hell aren't cheering Jericho or showing any indication they want him out there anymore.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 22, 2024 11:19:24 GMT -5
I'd say maybe he should just go back to WWE, where crowds won't care that he's not a great human being, and overexposed all to hell. But I think the clock is rapidly ticking on even that. Hes under contract till the end of December 2025 so that isn't an option anytime soon. Tony seems to love Jericho like he did Punk, so he's seemingly not going to step in and say he needs a long break from all things AEW. So I'm expecting him to be all over TV till his contract is up, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gives him a new deal.
And by that point, even if he did jump, there should be enough audience turnover that he's not gonna get away with anything there, either. So maybe it's just time to retire deep into the Canadian Wilderness (in a different province from Brock) where nobody will ever see him or hear from him again.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 22, 2024 11:25:46 GMT -5
I'd say maybe he should just go back to WWE, where crowds won't care that he's not a great human being, and overexposed all to hell. But I think the clock is rapidly ticking on even that. Hes under contract till the end of December 2025 so that isn't an option anytime soon. Tony seems to love Jericho like he did Punk, so he's seemingly not going to step in and say he needs a long break from all things AEW. So I'm expecting him to be all over TV till his contract is up, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gives him a new deal.
Actually, if there's going to be a time when his TV time reduces, it'll likely be once the new media rights deal is finalized. Again, a major reason he gets used is because he does move numbers for them with regards to TV ratings; he and the Bucks tend to be the guys who book themselves to go on during the toughest quarters (i.e. when the most commercials/wraparounds are going to happen) because they know they can eat it if the numbers dip, but they tend to keep numbers fairly steady during those stretches. Plus, he's also just a name executives would know, and that helps the general "we're a serious operation and you should pay us like one" deal. Once the new deal's locked in, though? Not saying he's going to vanish, but it likely eases the perceived need to feature him as much.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Apr 22, 2024 11:28:07 GMT -5
I'm assuming Jericho has become AEW's Local Man.
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Post by markymark on Apr 22, 2024 12:14:45 GMT -5
I'm assuming Jericho has become AEW's Local Man.
Max Caster: Yo?
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 22, 2024 12:44:55 GMT -5
I'm assuming Jericho has become AEW's Local Man. Max Caster: Yo?
Caster is an annoying midcard to lower midcard act, you have to have an actual singles push to be a local man. He hasn't even had a singles TV match in 2 years and has genuinely never won a singles TV match in his AEW career.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Apr 22, 2024 12:55:49 GMT -5
🎶🎹 THIS CROWD IS COLD AND SMARKY PLUS THEY ALL f***ING JUDGE ME 🎶🎸
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Post by Cyno on Apr 22, 2024 13:05:35 GMT -5
Caster is an annoying midcard to lower midcard act, you have to have an actual singles push to be a local man. He hasn't even had a singles TV match in 2 years and has genuinely never won a singles TV match in his AEW career. Max is still over with live crowds in spite of being a schmuck online. Jericho sucks a lot of the air out of the room lately in true Local Man fashion.
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 22, 2024 13:08:27 GMT -5
I still want Hook to make him tap out with the Redrum. It'd make me happy.
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Post by daaave on Apr 22, 2024 13:19:08 GMT -5
I'm enjoying this Jericho. It's working for me. The match was garbage but the finish was great. I'm more then happy to see how it goes
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Post by 4real on Apr 22, 2024 13:41:08 GMT -5
Match was fine. Finish was fine. Hook looked like a beast kicking out of 2 Judas Effects. But man the crowd is just done with Jericho and I can’t say I blame them. He is becoming a relic at this point.
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 22, 2024 16:02:01 GMT -5
Listening to the DEADLOCK podcast and they're recapping 1999 WCW Thunder and Johnny says, "I gotta go back to the Piper segment from earlier in the night, sorry, but he's laying on the floor, and some guy in the crowd just yells out 'PIPER, RETIRE, YOU OLD F***' and then Piper goes on to win the title."
ah, coincidences in wrestling can never be beaten lol
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