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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 13, 2024 22:47:23 GMT -5
damn hearing that shit about JBL sure does put everything in perspective. he's lucky a talent in the locker room who went through their own family struggles didn't twist him into a pretzel forever. No but Steve Blackman did KO him in an Airport with a roundhouse kick Let's appreciate Steve Blackman
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Apr 13, 2024 23:20:39 GMT -5
In his book Robert’s talked about the locker room at the time. Basically the top guys had free reignand depending on your status depended on how bad they would harass you. As a non wrestler he was considered bottom of the totem pole. Among other things he had his passport stolen while overseas, he was being interviewed by a high school kid, kid dropped his notes and JBL asked the kids mom if the kid was mentally disabled. JBL would constantly throw his bags down the street JBL made him switch busses in Japan and harassed him Justin Robert’s mom died and he broke down and was depressed JBL would corner him and asked him repeatedly for weeks why he didn’t kill himself. However in his book he did mention that Punk was one of the guys who stood up for him. Back then it was considered normal. Even Jerichos book talks about it (wrestler putting body parts in the announcers drinks. While I definitely don’t think Punks wants that I think they are trying to avoid. Keep in mind the Elite had their careers nearly destroyed by people who very much subscribe to that culture. I knew JBL was a piece of shit, but all of that is pure evil.
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Post by mrpeacock on Apr 13, 2024 23:47:37 GMT -5
You say that, but of the people who were prominent figures from Day 1 in AEW... Jericho has had double digit backstage fights, Omega said just a couple of pages ago that he believes in fighting. And then the Bucks had a fight with CM Punk where they, presumably, behaved badly enough to be suspended. And Cody? I'd guess he's old school enough to see the positives in fighting too. You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 14, 2024 0:32:30 GMT -5
damn hearing that shit about JBL sure does put everything in perspective. he's lucky a talent in the locker room who went through their own family struggles didn't twist him into a pretzel forever. No but Steve Blackman did KO him in an Airport with a roundhouse kick Let's appreciate Steve Blackman And Bart Gunn. And Joey Styles.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 14, 2024 0:55:33 GMT -5
You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. Well there are some rumors one of the reason she's no longer involved with AEW or at least has taken a backstep is people were not happy how she handled Brawl Out. Now in fairness we also have to point out there are also rumors Megha has also decided to focus primarily on working for the Jaguars.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 14, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -5
You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. There was no reason not to talk to Punk, he said to go see him and you want to solve these things before it escalates. The issue is Punk decided to attack someone. It wouldn't be a different word, Punk clearly kept going after people.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 14, 2024 2:58:58 GMT -5
Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. Well there are some rumors one of the reason she's no longer involved with AEW or at least has taken a backstep is people were not happy how she handled Brawl Out. Now in fairness we also have to point out there are also rumors Megha has also decided to focus primarily on working for the Jaguars. Interestingly, Megha does not have AEW listed on her linkedin, and it does put into question how much she really intended to be part of AEW's legal matters in any long-term consequence, so having herself put out there into the public in front of wrestling fans probably didn't do any favours for her wanting to step the hell away.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 14, 2024 5:21:17 GMT -5
You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. In hindsight I think this was their only mistake, only because they all went and confronted an injured, bleeding, tired dude who was hopped up on adrenaline and macho bullshit. Of course Punk is af fault for hitting people cause it’s never ok or justified to pull that shit no matter how you’re feeling. But if they all let that shit go for a few days and call a meeting on Dynamite or something to talk about it? AEW would look a whole lot different right now imo.
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2024 7:32:34 GMT -5
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 14, 2024 7:38:03 GMT -5
Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. In hindsight I think this was their only mistake, only because they all went and confronted an injured, bleeding, tired dude who was hopped up on adrenaline and macho bullshit. Of course Punk is af fault for hitting people cause it’s never ok or justified to pull that shit no matter how you’re feeling. But if they all let that shit go for a few days and call a meeting on Dynamite or something to talk about it? AEW would look a whole lot different right now imo. Honestly? I don't think so. Punk's weird hangups about Hangman still wouldn't have been resolved. Hangman wasn't involved in Brawl Out at all.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 14, 2024 10:45:11 GMT -5
Why the head of legal would let them go to Punks locker room when tempers were clearly so high is anyone’s guess. Like if she said “Absolutely not” when the Bucks said they want to go talk to Punk now then it’s a different world. In hindsight I think this was their only mistake, only because they all went and confronted an injured, bleeding, tired dude who was hopped up on adrenaline and macho bullshit. Of course Punk is af fault for hitting people cause it’s never ok or justified to pull that shit no matter how you’re feeling. But if they all let that shit go for a few days and call a meeting on Dynamite or something to talk about it? AEW would look a whole lot different right now imo. While I can see where you're coming from on this, I think the counterpoint is that something had to be done immediately as Punk's twitter fingers very likely would have continued into later that night. And then when you continue to let it go, who knows how much more he'll think he can get away with and how much more he would say publicly. We all know he's not the type to let things go and he'll run his grudges into the ground. That in mind, approaching him that night with the proper professional structure was the right thing to do.
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 14, 2024 10:50:21 GMT -5
In hindsight seeing Punk the night of All Out was a mistake. But if anyone could predict that going to see Punk with the head of legal in tow would result in a man being bitten by another man, they really should be picking numbers for the lottery every week.
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Post by jean0987654321 on Apr 14, 2024 12:33:38 GMT -5
Well...I'm glad Tony got it out of his system. Now I'm ready to move on and hopefully see Jack Perry come back...as he should now...
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Post by john84 on Apr 14, 2024 12:52:35 GMT -5
You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. What the f***? Hate to say it but given that it's JBL I can't say I'm shocked that he did that crap.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 14, 2024 16:53:52 GMT -5
To blow this up a bit more... Kenny kind of sort of talked about Brawl Out on his twitch. It's... a take for sure Yeah, it's a weird take, and to his credit he even says it's a good thing he doesn't have any power really. I will say though, I've heard this kind of take before, the idea that sometimes people just need to punch it out to clear the air or whatever. Unhealthy as F*** and one of those dude bro kind of takes, but it's nothing I haven't heard before. Kenny's a weird dude all things considered. One of those times you realize that even modern wrestlers are still weird as f***. I might get shit for this, but if two grown adults want to have a fist fight over some argument, then that is totally up to them.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 14, 2024 17:11:32 GMT -5
Bradshaw's had a couple of guys who got the better of him but none of that taught him a lesson.
I know we haven't heard the last of WWE's scandal but I'm surprised his name hasn't been mentioned in a lawsuit with the bullying/hazing and soaping of guys.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 14, 2024 17:21:35 GMT -5
You say that, but of the people who were prominent figures from Day 1 in AEW... Jericho has had double digit backstage fights, Omega said just a couple of pages ago that he believes in fighting. And then the Bucks had a fight with CM Punk where they, presumably, behaved badly enough to be suspended. And Cody? I'd guess he's old school enough to see the positives in fighting too. You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. The last thing anyone needs is to relitigate Punk's fights with members of the AEW roster. However, Perry and the Young Bucks were both suspended for months. Despite the head of legal being there, despite there being video footage. AEW as a company does not see them as innocent victims of assault.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 14, 2024 17:32:14 GMT -5
You will never eliminate fights in a locker room. But the culture is that you don’t just settle every argument with a fight or bullying. Punk last worked in the culture that was in large parts led by JBL. In that culture the main event players ruled and everyone else stayed in their lane. If a undercard guy dared go against you then it was deemed ok to punch them or mentally harass and abuse them. Justin Robert’s mom died and JBL would ask him every day why he didn’t kill himself. That’s the type of culture they want to avoid. This does not contradict what Omega said. As he put it., two guys come to blows but when they are done it’s over. Whatever beef they had dies when the fight ends. People like JBL and Punk don’t let it just end. Jericho, Cody and others have scuffled but they don’t stay on it. Jericho had the famous scuffle with Goldberg but it ended after that. You mentioned the Young Bucks. By every account they did not go to Punk looking for a fight. They brought head of legal and Punk attacked them first. In the Perry video there is nothing to suggest Perry was looking to get physical. In Omegas words he is ok with fighting if both agree and both agree to move on once it’s over I think the biggest thing working against Punk is he still wanted the hierarchy system that he was used to and that didn’t exist in AEW. Looking bs k bringing in Punk was a horrible mistake for everyone. The last thing anyone needs is to relitigate Punk's fights with members of the AEW roster. However, Perry and the Young Bucks were both suspended for months. Despite the head of legal being there, despite there being video footage. AEW as a company does not see them as innocent victims of assault. They were suspended so a fair investigation could be carried out for all parties, and most likely so any accusations of bias could be avoided.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 14, 2024 21:07:02 GMT -5
COMPLIMENTARY CHRIS HERO SIGHTING. PLEASE DO NOT OFFER CHRIS HERO FOOD. HE'S CURRENTLY STRESSED AND IS TRYING TO DANCE IT OFF. THANK YOU AND ENJOY THE SHOW!
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 15, 2024 6:31:33 GMT -5
Hate to say it but given that it's JBL I can't say I'm shocked that he did that crap. I wish I could say this shocked me that he did that but it really doesn't. Business is so much better off without pieces of shit like him in it.
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