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Post by Gunhaver on May 25, 2024 10:42:28 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? I don't see how any of these are PC. This is happening because whatever the AI is trained to use as trustworthy sources has no idea what it's doing. Rolling Stone points out two results pulls from The Onion and a Reddit post. www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/google-ai-overview-conspiracy-theories-1235027634/ |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 25, 2024 11:07:52 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? Nothing quite so insidious. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 25, 2024 13:39:25 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? It's happening because they used things like Reddit to feed the dataset... and Reddit is full of shitposts. and the Onion which is satire. |
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Post by Renslayer on May 25, 2024 13:46:46 GMT -5
Google made the internet worse and has made research a million times more difficult. They suck
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 25, 2024 13:48:16 GMT -5
Google made the internet worse and has made research a million times more difficult. They suck Yeah, even their regular search results has been made almost useless as there's usually like 7 or 8 useless ai bullshit links before you can even start to find anything useful. |
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Post by darbus alan on May 25, 2024 14:13:06 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? That's just a grifter lie to get money from gullible people. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 25, 2024 14:45:44 GMT -5
Google made the internet worse and has made research a million times more difficult. They suck To be fair, it's more like a handful of bean counters made Google worse (one of whom already made Yahoo Search worse) coming from the same mentality that made the rest of the internet, and tech in general, worse. There's a great episode of Better Offline on the subject aptly titled "The Man Who Destroyed Google Search". |
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 25, 2024 14:48:04 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? Lol no. Google has been plummeting ever since the Google Head of Ads suddenly became the Head of Search, and generative AI will only ever be a crapshoot at its best. DEI/woke has nothing to do with this shitburger. |
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Post by Gunhaver on May 25, 2024 17:08:40 GMT -5
Google made the internet worse and has made research a million times more difficult. They suck Yeah, even their regular search results has been made almost useless as there's usually like 7 or 8 useless ai bullshit links before you can even start to find anything useful. Upside: this may require more people to consider the sources of information they seek out Downside: that upside definitely won't happen lol |
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Post by FinalGwen on May 25, 2024 17:55:13 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? No? Did you get that idea from an AI too? Because it's every bit as nonsensical as these results. |
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Post by Kalmia on May 25, 2024 18:40:43 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? AI has topics it can't answer but is very upfront and honest about those. If you ask it why [insert group of people] are [insert derogatory term] it will tell you it can't answer and not to judge people by stereotypes. If you ask it how to rob a bank, it will tell you that's illegal and it can't help. Ask it how to kill yourself and it will give you resources to ask for help. There's no conspiracy to make it "PC" because it's right there in the responses when it needs to be. AI sucks now because it has always sucked. It's a fancy predictive text that doesn't understand what it's being asked and just generates answers depending on what it can find online and sometimes just makes things up out of thin air. Unlike (most) humans, it has no sense of what is believable and what isn't - it's all just words on a page and it can't question the validity of anything. There have always been stories of it generating absolute nonsense, this isn't a new thing. Here's a report from June 2023 about a lawyer getting caught using fake cases created by ChatGPT. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 25, 2024 19:05:16 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? AI has topics it can't answer but is very upfront and honest about those. If you ask it why [insert group of people] are [insert derogatory term] it will tell you it can't answer and not to judge people by stereotypes. If you ask it how to rob a bank, it will tell you that's illegal and it can't help. Ask it how to kill yourself and it will give you resources to ask for help. There's no conspiracy to make it "PC" because it's right there in the responses when it needs to be. AI sucks now because it has always sucked. It's a fancy predictive text that doesn't understand what it's being asked and just generates answers depending on what it can find online and sometimes just makes things up out of thin air. Unlike (most) humans, it has no sense of what is believable and what isn't - it's all just words on a page and it can't question the validity of anything. There have always been stories of it generating absolute nonsense, this isn't a new thing. Here's a report from June 2023 about a lawyer getting caught using fake cases created by ChatGPT. there was a grocery store using AI to try and help make recipes for people with what they had in their cart... which lead to it making literal poison multiple times as it would include things like motor oil. |
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Post by ace on May 25, 2024 19:26:56 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? yes. It’s true. I asked google AI what the best thing to do in response to AI’s woke culture is and it suggested never breeding and making sure never to vote. Free tips! |
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Post by Gunhaver on May 25, 2024 20:46:56 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? AI has topics it can't answer but is very upfront and honest about those. If you ask it why [insert group of people] are [insert derogatory term] it will tell you it can't answer and not to judge people by stereotypes. If you ask it how to rob a bank, it will tell you that's illegal and it can't help. Ask it how to kill yourself and it will give you resources to ask for help. There's no conspiracy to make it "PC" because it's right there in the responses when it needs to be. AI sucks now because it has always sucked. It's a fancy predictive text that doesn't understand what it's being asked and just generates answers depending on what it can find online and sometimes just makes things up out of thin air. Unlike (most) humans, it has no sense of what is believable and what isn't - it's all just words on a page and it can't question the validity of anything. There have always been stories of it generating absolute nonsense, this isn't a new thing. Here's a report from June 2023 about a lawyer getting caught using fake cases created by ChatGPT. I used Bing's AI shortly after it went mad and if you kept pressing on subjects it repeatedly told you it couldn't answer it essentially forced you to change the subject. It absolutely refused to show me pictures of Spider-Man's butt. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 25, 2024 22:27:24 GMT -5
AI technology is giving bad answers because of woke.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 26, 2024 2:28:43 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? Anyone telling you that DEI is why AI gives bad results just wants you to be mad that they can't use slurs in public and to distract you from real problems. There were issues with Google's Ai image generator not getting the context of photos of Nazis and inserting people of colour because it doesn't grasp context when it comes to the things it is pulling from, or being asked to do and that has been merged into wider ongoing attack on minority groups and representation. It's a system that takes answers from places like Reddit with little understanding of the context they were given in, nevermind the correctness. It doesn't understand that eating glue was given as a joke, just that it was popular and done multiple times therefore it must be as valid and correct as the rest of the training material. It is not as complex and clever as people will have you believe, it is a chat bot built on a blenderised internet with the intent of keeping people from visiting other websites or to let businesses fire people now to make way for AI even though the tech is broken, in the hope the that it will work adequately down the line, that's it. That is the agenda. It's no more about 'Woke' than Uber destroying taxi services or AirBnB further screwing up people's ability to find homes in the places they live are, it's about selling a product and slashing jobs to maximize profit with no regard for quality or human lives. When blaming things on DEI, do what AI doesn't and look at the context the claims were made in, I guarantee the people making them also blamed it for bridge collapses and airplane parts falling off on it when reality quickly proved cost cutting, corner cutting and regular human error were really at fault, and they will continue to do the same thing for every issue that gets headlines and the cause is not immediately known. A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still trying it's shoes. |
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Post by 67 more on May 26, 2024 2:55:10 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? Mr Musk, don't you have a bunch of companies to ruin rather than posting on FAN? |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on May 26, 2024 17:19:08 GMT -5
Is it true some of this is happening because they put "narratives" in the script, so it now focuses on being PC, instead of just giving authentic answers? I don't really get the fad of major companies trying to tell people what their ethics should be. Most of these billion dollar companies are connected to countries that use child and slave labor, why not practice your ethics but finding more people friendly ways to develop your tech? Nothing quite so insidious. To be fair, using Reddit as trustworthy source of "Human" responses when it's filmed to the brim with misinformation, propaganda, bots, astroturfing and of course, AI-generated garbage itself is pretty baffling to begin with. |
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on May 26, 2024 18:48:03 GMT -5
Who knew Allen Iverson was so misinformed?
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Post by chazraps on May 26, 2024 18:50:05 GMT -5
Remember how Google became successful because it was the one search engine that not only consistently gave reliable results, but had no extra bullshit tacked on? Anyway, shit like this is why I'm increasingly using alternative search engines. Yeah, like Google gave us a great search engine, a great email service, and a great worldwide map/directions service. But their use of AI is right up there (probably worse tbh) than Google Glass and Google+. Just an absolute misfire that's making the things that work that people like worse. |
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