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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 17:36:20 GMT -5
From when the tournament was announced I had no doubt Gunther would win it. But I questioned how they would handle the regalia aspect of winning since it seems all the heels who have been given the king gimmick in modern times have been treated like comedy joke characters: Sheamus, Corbin, and Wade Barrett. Be given a crown, robe, and scepter and that's pretty much the kiss of death as being taken seriously as a heel. Now, some may argue Booker T got the gimmick over as a heel. Yes he did, but when Booker was King, he was an over-the-top parody character. And that doesn't fit Gunther in the slightest who is a non-nonsense in-ring shooter.
It's attention to detail I noticed tonight. Gunther did not put the crown on his head. It was as if Triple H instructed him that whatever you do, make sure you do not put that crown on your head. Now there have been some noticeable Kings of the Ring who did not wear the crown, such as Stone Cold Steve Austin and Brock Lesnar. And I believe when Triple H won it in '97, he just smashed the crown over Mick Foley's head.
I think after tonight, we will not see that crown again in the hands of Gunther. The tournament served it purpose, and now he's a tournament winner the likes of Austin and Lesner who will not be plagued with a cartoonish gimmick.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on May 25, 2024 17:38:03 GMT -5
could also be that wearing a crown, even a make-believe wrestling one, in front of Saudi royalty, probably wouldn't really go down all that well.
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Post by BorneAgain on May 25, 2024 17:41:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Gunther carrying the crown from now till Summerslam. Not to wear it, but just as a symbol of what's done and what he will do. Maybe even have him use as a weapon sometimes and over the next two months we see it become more battered and dented in the wake of what he's done to his opponents and what he plans to do to the World Heavyweight Champion.
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Post by asuka007 on May 25, 2024 17:41:31 GMT -5
Even Bret wore the crown at least once.
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 17:42:08 GMT -5
could also be that wearing a crown, even a make-believe wrestling one, in front of Saudi royalty, probably wouldn't really go down all that well. I don't know about that. When Xaiver Woods won the tournament, didn't he wear the crown in Saudi? I am sticking by my argument that Gunther didn't wear it to not get lumped in with all the comedy heels that preceded him.
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 17:47:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Gunther carrying the crown from now till Summerslam. Not to wear it, but just as a symbol of what's done and what he will do. Maybe even have him use as a weapon sometimes and over the next two months we see it become more battered and dented in the wake of what he's done to his opponents and what he plans to do to the World Heavyweight Champion. I am thinking Gunther will challenge Cody for the WWE title. The way it's looking on Raw, Damian is dropping the title to Drew, and then Drew vs. Punk as SummerSlam if Punk is cleared by then. I don't see how we are NOT getting Drew vs. Damian. If it's anybody other than Drew challenging for the WHC at Clash at the Castle, that crowd is going to shit on it harder than Big Show vs. Batista at the ECW arena.
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Post by dbrussel on May 25, 2024 17:52:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Gunther carrying the crown from now till Summerslam. Not to wear it, but just as a symbol of what's done and what he will do. Maybe even have him use as a weapon sometimes and over the next two months we see it become more battered and dented in the wake of what he's done to his opponents and what he plans to do to the World Heavyweight Champion. I am thinking Gunther will challenge Cody for the WWE title. The way it's looking on Raw, Damian is dropping the title to Drew, and then Drew vs. Punk as SummerSlam if Punk is cleared by then. I don't see how we are NOT getting Drew vs. Damian. If it's anybody other than Drew challenging for the WHC at Clash at the Castle, that crowd is going to shit on it harder than Big Show vs. Batista at the ECW arena. Didnt you watch the PLE? It's all official Damian vs Drew at clash at the castle and Gunther challenging the world heavyweight champ at summerslam
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 18:12:12 GMT -5
No, I turned it off after the Gunther/Orton match. This was the second straight PLE in a row that I skipped the main event. It's not I didn't think Cody could put on an amazing performance. But, just like with AJ Styles, Logan Paul did not have a realistic shot at winning nor pose a serious threat to seeing a title change, thus no suspense for me.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 25, 2024 18:24:27 GMT -5
could also be that wearing a crown, even a make-believe wrestling one, in front of Saudi royalty, probably wouldn't really go down all that well. Makes you wonder why they do a "CROWN THE PEOPLE" tournament final in the f***ing place to begin with...
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 18:30:48 GMT -5
could also be that wearing a crown, even a make-believe wrestling one, in front of Saudi royalty, probably wouldn't really go down all that well. Makes you wonder why they do a "CROWN THE PEOPLE" tournament final in the f***ing place to begin with... That's why I am saying it has to be about trying to erase the stank that winning the crown comes with. Look how much of a clown character Corbin was when he was king. I am not saying that Corbin was going to be a main event WrestleMania champion. But King Corbin was the Red Rooster for him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 25, 2024 18:32:08 GMT -5
Makes you wonder why they do a "CROWN THE PEOPLE" tournament final in the f***ing place to begin with... They have to try to erase the stank that winning the crown comes with. Look how much of a clown character Corbin was when he was king. You can do that on any show that isn't the one where the dictators would get angry if you put a fake crown on someone. It doesn't make King of the Ring feel more prestigious when you can't even give them their trophy when they win it.
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Post by welshpenguin on May 25, 2024 18:36:16 GMT -5
It was hilarious. Serious, grumpy Gunther did not want to wear the crown lmao. Bet once he was in the back he wouldn’t take it off, even wearing it in the shower 😋
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 18:36:42 GMT -5
They have to try to erase the stank that winning the crown comes with. Look how much of a clown character Corbin was when he was king. You can do that on any show that isn't the one where the dictators would get angry if you put a fake crown on someone. It doesn't make King of the Ring feel more prestigious when you can't even give them their trophy when they win it. Again, Xavier wore the crown in Saudi.
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Post by welshpenguin on May 25, 2024 18:38:53 GMT -5
You can do that on any show that isn't the one where the dictators would get angry if you put a fake crown on someone. It doesn't make King of the Ring feel more prestigious when you can't even give them their trophy when they win it. Again, Xavier wore the crown in Saudi. yeah I don’t think it was anything to do with where the tournament was. Don’t think they care about fake wrestling crowns lol
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Post by Jasper Troy Bolton on May 25, 2024 18:42:32 GMT -5
Oh my god that Xavier crown looks like shit 😭
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 25, 2024 18:44:37 GMT -5
Oh my god that Xavier crown looks like shit 😭 Reigns did him a favour, like.
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Post by wildojinx on May 25, 2024 18:45:16 GMT -5
Did Shamrock or Edge wear the crown?
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Post by ben:friendship frog on May 25, 2024 18:47:05 GMT -5
You can do that on any show that isn't the one where the dictators would get angry if you put a fake crown on someone. It doesn't make King of the Ring feel more prestigious when you can't even give them their trophy when they win it. Again, Xavier wore the crown in Saudi. Nia wore her's today and had Triple H place it on her head as if she was being coronated 🤣
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 25, 2024 18:49:06 GMT -5
Again, Xavier wore the crown in Saudi. Nia wore her's today and had Triple H place it on her head as if she was being coronated 🤣 Well I didn't watch these shows, for good reason, was just going off of what others were implying Then idk why he didn't put it on, weird.
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Post by SirLucas on May 25, 2024 18:52:20 GMT -5
Did Shamrock or Edge wear the crown? No, Edge got a trophy and Shamrock just got his hand raised and a lower-third graphic that said "King of the Ring."
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