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Post by darbus alan on May 28, 2024 22:02:36 GMT -5
Really hope he does well here in NXT. Shawn Spears had a pretty solid debut, too, but that turned into a wet fart. Then again they stuck him with Ridge "makes everyone around him awful" Holland while Ethan looks to be getting a program with Trick and Meta-Four. So I'm more optimistic.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on May 28, 2024 22:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by polarbearpete on May 28, 2024 22:34:19 GMT -5
I’m not confident in saying AEW ‘dropped the ball with him’, but regardless I like the guy, and did not expect WWE to give him a shot. I hope he finds his footing. Welcome back!
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on May 28, 2024 22:38:52 GMT -5
Really hope he does well here in NXT. Shawn Spears had a pretty solid debut, too, but that turned into a wet fart. Then again they stuck him with Ridge "makes everyone around him awful" Holland while Ethan looks to be getting a program with Trick and Meta-Four. So I'm more optimistic. I confess I have ZERO idea what they're going for with Spears now. Just really weird.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 28, 2024 22:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 28, 2024 22:45:47 GMT -5
I've never really seen his appeal but not like he got a lot of chances to really win me over in AEW, so we'll see what he can do I guess.
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Post by HIM on May 28, 2024 23:15:03 GMT -5
One thing about him in AEW is that I've always felt they could have done more with him. I know nothing of him other than his stint there and the entire time I'm thinking "alright, this guy could be a great midcarder champion." He's got that vibe about him, he's a good worker and he can talk. Nothing happened with him though so it just sort of felt weird. Now with him in NXT? He's already looking like he can be a main event level heel. Like, that's one thing that WWE does a great job of. They can take these people (the Jade, Lexis and Ethans of the world) and elevate them. It doesn't matter who comes from AEW, they just look like from a presentation standpoint WWE would turn them from wrestler to superstar.
He will do well in NXT. Not sure where he will land on the main roster but I am intrigued.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on May 28, 2024 23:25:41 GMT -5
One thing about him in AEW is that I've always felt they could have done more with him. I know nothing of him other than his stint there and the entire time I'm thinking "alright, this guy could be a great midcarder champion." He's got that vibe about him, he's a good worker and he can talk. Now with him in NXT? He's already looking like he can be a main event level heel. Like, that's one thing that WWE does a great job of. They can take these people (the Jade, Lexis and Ethans of the world) and elevate them. It doesn't matter who comes from AEW, they just look like from a presentation standpoint WWE would turn them from wrestler to superstar. He will do well in NXT. Not sure where he will land on the main roster but I am intrigued. I think it's more of a thing where in AEW if you're already made in some circles, you can get elevated to a big spot with lots of show time. for those who are on that line or below of recognition/care, NXT/WWE can give you that push to really change the whole game up. Like they could've put all the focus on Brian Pillman and they never would've come up with the Lexis King idea cause it's so blatantly the most WWE thing. Same with Hangman, lot of years in WWE he'd just be some cowboy dude or never reach the title in WWE. That's not to say Hangman or Lexis King are that good or that bad or in different ponds, just entirely different focuses in development!
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Post by HIM on May 28, 2024 23:35:19 GMT -5
One thing about him in AEW is that I've always felt they could have done more with him. I know nothing of him other than his stint there and the entire time I'm thinking "alright, this guy could be a great midcarder champion." He's got that vibe about him, he's a good worker and he can talk. Now with him in NXT? He's already looking like he can be a main event level heel. Like, that's one thing that WWE does a great job of. They can take these people (the Jade, Lexis and Ethans of the world) and elevate them. It doesn't matter who comes from AEW, they just look like from a presentation standpoint WWE would turn them from wrestler to superstar. He will do well in NXT. Not sure where he will land on the main roster but I am intrigued. I think it's more of a thing where in AEW if you're already made in some circles, you can get elevated to a big spot with lots of show time. for those who are on that line or below of recognition/care, NXT/WWE can give you that push to really change the whole game up. Like they could've put all the focus on Brian Pillman and they never would've come up with the Lexis King idea cause it's so blatantly the most WWE thing. Same with Hangman, lot of years in WWE he'd just be some cowboy dude or never reach the title in WWE. That's not to say Hangman or Lexis King are that good or that bad or in different ponds, just entirely different focuses in development! That makes a lot of sense. It's like what Cena said in that he's the type of guy who can take whatever you give him and make it as best as possible. That's what WWE does. AEW on the other hand, they're the place where they can take talent who are already at a certain level and put the spotlight on them. Nothing against AEW but they're not really the place where a brand new talent can develop themselves and their character from the ground up to become something amazing. Julia Hart is like one of the only ones they've done an amazing job with that while others seem to already have their characters and such. Both companies are great in their own areas and that's great because it just keeps the business flourishing for all talent.
Like a guy like Ricochet would probably do amazing in AEW because he's already got everything you'd need, he just needs that push. That's not to say he'd be world champion but he'd at least elevate himself to a great level and THEN afterwards he can go back to WWE and be world champion.
At the end of the day, these wrestlers are eating. Making money, on tv, it's a W for everyone.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on May 28, 2024 23:45:09 GMT -5
I think it's more of a thing where in AEW if you're already made in some circles, you can get elevated to a big spot with lots of show time. for those who are on that line or below of recognition/care, NXT/WWE can give you that push to really change the whole game up. Like they could've put all the focus on Brian Pillman and they never would've come up with the Lexis King idea cause it's so blatantly the most WWE thing. Same with Hangman, lot of years in WWE he'd just be some cowboy dude or never reach the title in WWE. That's not to say Hangman or Lexis King are that good or that bad or in different ponds, just entirely different focuses in development! That makes a lot of sense. It's like what Cena said in that he's the type of guy who can take whatever you give him and make it as best as possible. That's what WWE does. AEW on the other hand, they're the place where they can take talent who are already at a certain level and put the spotlight on them. Nothing against AEW but they're not really the place where a brand new talent can develop themselves and their character from the ground up to become something amazing. Julia Hart is like one of the only ones they've done an amazing job with that while others seem to already have their characters and such. Both companies are great in their own areas and that's great because it just keeps the business flourishing for all talent.
Like a guy like Ricochet would probably do amazing in AEW because he's already got everything you'd need, he just needs that push. That's not to say he'd be world champion but he'd at least elevate himself to a great level and THEN afterwards he can go back to WWE and be world champion.
At the end of the day, these wrestlers are eating. Making money, on tv, it's a W for everyone.
Exactly with Cena and great example with Julia. Julia is one of those rare ones who may as well have been an extra but impressed so much that by sheer will of her and AEW, became a super legit character. Ricochet could be a champion in AEW within like a year. We'd all laugh about it the idea of it here cause WWE does give him matches and time but there is a clear limit to what can happen because the development didn't start with them, he'd been around the world since he showed up. Look at Cody, many would say he was made on his indy run of a lifetime but he was a WWE guy super early and he has become the ultimate guy because he can combine both. Another good example would be the Bucks if you go back a few years. Right now and for years they've been super duper important in AEW because you can just put them out there and say "hey that's the young bucks", give them some sauce to cook with and they're good to go. They'd still be the same talented guys in WWE but aside from the Usos, there's a limit to these things if you're a team. Both of these places are eating as you said, kicking some asses on the shows and things are looking great. TNA might even start at least preheating the oven working with NXT to give their fans some new faces. I think that's the one serious thing I'd hope fans of either companies would see, that they aren't big pond/small pond but more two entirely different strategies to wrestling and the development of their acts. Sometimes you can brute force a championship like WWE and the Texas Rangers. Other times you can do a good bit of spending with some smart thinking to get a championship like the Atlanta Braves. It's all W's and rings, they all count the same.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 29, 2024 0:02:57 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, there’s big gaps in the men’s side of things in NXT that are perfect for an Ethan Page to come in get the kind of featured time that his talents warrant. Could be a very astute signing here.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on May 29, 2024 0:13:50 GMT -5
Really hope he does well here in NXT. Shawn Spears had a pretty solid debut, too, but that turned into a wet fart. Then again they stuck him with Ridge "makes everyone around him awful" Holland while Ethan looks to be getting a program with Trick and Meta-Four. So I'm more optimistic. I confess I have ZERO idea what they're going for with Spears now. Just really weird. It is my understanding that he was brought in to work in more of a backstage role.
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Post by froggyfrog on May 29, 2024 0:17:22 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, there’s big gaps in the men’s side of things in NXT that are perfect for an Ethan Page to come in get the kind of featured time that his talents warrant. Could be a very astute signing here. Yep especially post draft. If you look at the main event scene who is there? Trick Williams, Tony D’Angelo, and that’s about it? Def spots up for grabs there. Ethan Page signing feels right place right time
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on May 29, 2024 0:26:34 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, there’s big gaps in the men’s side of things in NXT that are perfect for an Ethan Page to come in get the kind of featured time that his talents warrant. Could be a very astute signing here. Oh, 100%. Like, there's Trick and Tony D and really who the hell else is up there in terms of NXT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL TALENT right now? I'd say Wes Lee but he's as content to stay in the NA Title scene as the peer pressure-loving narrator of "Thunderbirds Are Coming Out" by TISM is to, well stay where he is. So Ethan Page can slot right into that top slot.
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Post by Derk! on May 29, 2024 0:30:37 GMT -5
Good for him. Get that money.
Dude was good at getting heat(his segment with Danielson here in San Antonio, he was getting massive boos), but was rarely given a shot to do so in AEW.
Hope he does well.
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Post by deezy on May 29, 2024 0:38:10 GMT -5
Very hyped for this. Enjoyed him in TNA, AEW dropped the ball with him but hopefully he finds his footing in NXT. As long as he gets a chance I see no reason why he won't.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 29, 2024 1:00:05 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, there’s big gaps in the men’s side of things in NXT that are perfect for an Ethan Page to come in get the kind of featured time that his talents warrant. Could be a very astute signing here. Oh, 100%. Like, there's Trick and Tony D and really who the hell else is up there in terms of NXT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL TALENT right now? I'd say Wes Lee but he's as content to stay in the NA Title scene as the peer pressure-loving narrator of "Thunderbirds Are Coming Out" by TISM is to, well stay where he is. So Ethan Page can slot right into that top slot. Always pop for you randomly namedropping TISM once every other year. But it's true. With the draft, they lost Dragunov, Breakker, Hayes, Dijak and (worth counting because he'd found a groove back down there) Corbin, in one hit. And the people seemingly tasked with filling those voids aren't exactly the most thrilling bunch. Gallus are dull as f*** unless they're drunk at the pub. No Quarter Catch Crew don't even have THAT. And Meta-Four have found a niche, but it's not exactly one that lends itself to main event status. And the new main roster ring-ins like Holland, Gallows and Anderson aren't doing anything of note, hell, Holland has probably lost the most goodwill out of anyone because of this "Ridge side/Holland side" anger management/PTSD thing he's doing.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 29, 2024 1:07:40 GMT -5
Oh, 100%. Like, there's Trick and Tony D and really who the hell else is up there in terms of NXT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL TALENT right now? I'd say Wes Lee but he's as content to stay in the NA Title scene as the peer pressure-loving narrator of "Thunderbirds Are Coming Out" by TISM is to, well stay where he is. So Ethan Page can slot right into that top slot. Always pop for you randomly namedropping TISM once every other year. But it's true. With the draft, they lost Dragunov, Breakker, Hayes, Dijak and (worth counting because he'd found a groove back down there) Corbin, in one hit. And the people seemingly tasked with filling those voids aren't exactly the most thrilling bunch. Gallus are dull as f*** unless they're drunk at the pub. No Quarter Catch Crew don't even have THAT. And Meta-Four have found a niche, but it's not exactly one that lends itself to main event status. And the new main roster ring-ins like Holland, Gallows and Anderson aren't doing anything of note, hell, Holland has probably lost the most goodwill out of anyone because of this "Ridge side/Holland side" anger management/PTSD thing he's doing. And the Good Brothers didn't have any more goodwill to lose.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 29, 2024 1:10:16 GMT -5
AEW was stacked, and Ethan just couldn't break through it, a lot of talent are gonna have that issue, I really don't think a ball was dropped, it just is what it is.
In NXT he can build up and show out, and I really hope he does, I always liked Ethan and think he could be something, I hope this can take off for him.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on May 29, 2024 1:14:17 GMT -5
Oh, 100%. Like, there's Trick and Tony D and really who the hell else is up there in terms of NXT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL TALENT right now? I'd say Wes Lee but he's as content to stay in the NA Title scene as the peer pressure-loving narrator of "Thunderbirds Are Coming Out" by TISM is to, well stay where he is. So Ethan Page can slot right into that top slot. Always pop for you randomly namedropping TISM once every other year. But it's true. With the draft, they lost Dragunov, Breakker, Hayes, Dijak and (worth counting because he'd found a groove back down there) Corbin, in one hit. And the people seemingly tasked with filling those voids aren't exactly the most thrilling bunch. Gallus are dull as f*** unless they're drunk at the pub. No Quarter Catch Crew don't even have THAT. And Meta-Four have found a niche, but it's not exactly one that lends itself to main event status. And the new main roster ring-ins like Holland, Gallows and Anderson aren't doing anything of note, hell, Holland has probably lost the most goodwill out of anyone because of this "Ridge side/Holland side" anger management/PTSD thing he's doing. 1. Glad I could help. 2. The biggest problem is also that a lot of these guys haven't really been built (and I can go the rest of my, uh, life without Gallus ever getting there). So it's gonna take some time to get guys there but then you either have Trick mowing down everyone or he and Page trade the belt around until someone else is ready to break the circle. And who knows how exactly long that'll take. Lexis King isn't quite there yet and there's a seeming unwillingness to move Wes Lee up. I'm really not sure how long they can really wait though.
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