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Post by Jasper Troy Bolton on Jun 29, 2024 17:47:02 GMT -5
I go have a shower and emerge afterwards to LeBron trying to recruit Klay Thompson to The Lakers ðŸ˜
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 29, 2024 18:50:45 GMT -5
later PG, good luck to whoever actually does that shit for four years I really hope it isn't us
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 29, 2024 21:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 29, 2024 22:08:05 GMT -5
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Post by jjohns828 on Jun 30, 2024 6:53:16 GMT -5
Ignoring the Paul George meeting Orlando is getting, I want to get some outside perspective from fans of other teams. I'm seeing a lot of fans excited about the rumors of us wanting to sign both KCP and Hartenstein with our cap space and I just don't get it. We've had a bottom third of the league offensive since 2017-2018 and I just don't get the excitement in the possibility of signing two defensive focused players.
KCP would obviously be an upgrade from Gary Harris on both sides of the ball but then we would also be downgrading our offense at the center position by going from Carter to Hartenstein. Even with my concerns I kind of like bringing in Hartenstein because despite our highly ranked defense the one thing we lacked was rim protection but I think that makes KCP a bad choice and we need a much more offensive focused guard even if they aren't the best defender. So I see the excitement in our fan base and wonder am I crazy? I just think we already had one of the top 5 defenses in the league and need to focus on getting our offense out of the 20s in team ratings.
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Post by mo on Jun 30, 2024 10:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 30, 2024 11:57:41 GMT -5
Casey, Williams and now Bickerstaff. Pistons giving everyone 5 year contracts these days.
Seems to be more like one team's trash (Cavs) is another teams trash (Pistons).
I think they should gone with an assistant who hasn't had a chance yet instead of another washed out Head Coach from another team.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2024 12:14:36 GMT -5
I would have hired a young coach if I was the Pistons but JB is not the worst hire
He might be able to figure out Cade/Ivey combo since he had same problem with Mitch/Garland and that worked tho it helps Mitch is an all world scorer
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2024 12:49:28 GMT -5
So you willing to take $13M MLE?
Make it make sense
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 30, 2024 13:16:21 GMT -5
I would have hired a young coach if I was the Pistons but JB is not the worst hire He might be able to figure out Cade/Ivey combo since he had same problem with Mitch/Garland and that worked tho it helps Mitch is an all world scorer Pistons should fired Monty right after the end of the season and hire Jordi Fernandez. He will be perfect for the Brooklyn tank. He could've done well in Detroit.
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Post by The Foreignerâ„¢: PreSZN on Jun 30, 2024 13:36:32 GMT -5
Ignoring the Paul George meeting Orlando is getting, I want to get some outside perspective from fans of other teams. I'm seeing a lot of fans excited about the rumors of us wanting to sign both KCP and Hartenstein with our cap space and I just don't get it. We've had a bottom third of the league offensive since 2017-2018 and I just don't get the excitement in the possibility of signing two defensive focused players. KCP would obviously be an upgrade from Gary Harris on both sides of the ball but then we would also be downgrading our offense at the center position by going from Carter to Hartenstein. Even with my concerns I kind of like bringing in Hartenstein because despite our highly ranked defense the one thing we lacked was rim protection but I think that makes KCP a bad choice and we need a much more offensive focused guard even if they aren't the best defender. So I see the excitement in our fan base and wonder am I crazy? I just think we already had one of the top 5 defenses in the league and need to focus on getting our offense out of the 20s in team ratings. Not too well versed on the Magic but I guess the thinking there is to give room for Franz and Paolo's growth on offense? KCP in particular makes sense for that because he's selfless and willing to be a high-percentage spot-up shooter. I'm surprised the Magic front office didn't seem interested in D'Angelo Russell before he opted in. Yeah, Playoff D'Lo is a downer, but he would fit well in Orlando otherwise.
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Post by jjohns828 on Jun 30, 2024 14:03:51 GMT -5
Ignoring the Paul George meeting Orlando is getting, I want to get some outside perspective from fans of other teams. I'm seeing a lot of fans excited about the rumors of us wanting to sign both KCP and Hartenstein with our cap space and I just don't get it. We've had a bottom third of the league offensive since 2017-2018 and I just don't get the excitement in the possibility of signing two defensive focused players. KCP would obviously be an upgrade from Gary Harris on both sides of the ball but then we would also be downgrading our offense at the center position by going from Carter to Hartenstein. Even with my concerns I kind of like bringing in Hartenstein because despite our highly ranked defense the one thing we lacked was rim protection but I think that makes KCP a bad choice and we need a much more offensive focused guard even if they aren't the best defender. So I see the excitement in our fan base and wonder am I crazy? I just think we already had one of the top 5 defenses in the league and need to focus on getting our offense out of the 20s in team ratings. Not too well versed on the Magic but I guess the thinking there is to give room for Franz and Paolo's growth on offense? KCP in particular makes sense for that because he's selfless and willing to be a high-percentage spot-up shooter. I'm surprised the Magic front office didn't seem interested in D'Angelo Russell before he opted in. Yeah, Playoff D'Lo is a downer, but he would fit well in Orlando otherwise. I like KCP but he's just a 3&D shooting guard which we already have in Suggs, maybe a little better shooter but worse on the defense part. I just think we need an offensive guard that also has some playmaking chops especially since Paolo had some frustration with all the offensive initiation being on his and to a lesser degree Franz's shoulders. He hinted at the end of the season he didn't like being the closest thing we had to a point guard in our starting lineup since we started two shooting guards in Suggs and Gary Harris and he had to operate as a point forward. Yet if the KCP/Hartenstein rumors end up being true we're looking at entering the season without a starting caliber point guard again. Whatever position Suggs was drafted in it is now clear he's a shooting guard and Fultz was so awful last season that there is little chance he gets resigned. I know we drafted Anthony Black last year but he's not likely to be ready since they didn't even trust him to run the point for the second unit last year, they just trusted him to stand in the corner and shoot, but only if he was wide open.
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Post by The Foreignerâ„¢: PreSZN on Jun 30, 2024 14:16:33 GMT -5
I knew Suggs has the height to play SG but didn't realize he basically plays like a 3-and-D SG now.
That makes not pursuing D'Lo even more surprising, unless the front office is angling for someone like Trae Young or Darius Garland in a trade.
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Post by jjohns828 on Jun 30, 2024 14:33:00 GMT -5
I knew Suggs has the height to play SG but didn't realize he basically plays like a 3-and-D SG now. That makes not pursuing D'Lo even more surprising, unless the front office is angling for someone like Trae Young or Darius Garland in a trade. Last season Suggs officially was listed at PG but he basically had no on ball duties and played like a 3&D SG. I hoped he would develop into a PG but he just hasn't shown the handles or playmaking ability to do it. They might be angling for a trade especially if they sign Hartenstein since there would be no reason to keep Carter at that point and he's on a good contract that makes him a great piece to use in a bigger trade. I guess I just don't trust the Magic front office when it comes to anything but the first round of the draft. They are very risk adverse so I'm skeptical of them making a big move. They've been in charge since the 2017-2018 and their biggest free agent signing was a washed up Al-Farouq Aminu and the only significant trades they made were when their hands were forced by Aaron Gordon requesting a trade making so they had no choice but to break up the AG/Vucevic/Fournier trio. Admittedly they did amazing with the Vucevic trade but I don't think they would of done it without Gordon's request.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2024 14:35:31 GMT -5
Orlando needs a 3 and a backup 5
I am sure they would love PG13 but they most likely end up with a KCP who while may not be what fans want, he has been in winning organizations and Orlando needs that mindset
Outside of that, Ingram is available for trade and they had been linked to Klay since the regular season
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Post by jjohns828 on Jun 30, 2024 14:42:18 GMT -5
Orlando needs a 3 and a backup 5 I am sure they would love PG13 but they most likely end up with a KCP who while may not be what fans want, he has been in winning organizations and Orlando needs that mindset Outside of that, Ingram is available for trade and they had been linked to Klay since the regular season Well Franz can play the 2 if necessary he's more of a 3 so if we're not bringing in George it would be better to get a backcourt running mate for Suggs and let Franz play his natural position.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2024 14:44:19 GMT -5
Orlando needs a 3 and a backup 5 I am sure they would love PG13 but they most likely end up with a KCP who while may not be what fans want, he has been in winning organizations and Orlando needs that mindset Outside of that, Ingram is available for trade and they had been linked to Klay since the regular season Well Franz can play the 2 if necessary he's more of a 3 so if we're not bringing in George it would be better to get a backcourt running mate and let Franz play his natural position. George can play the 2 as well and KCP Klay is still a dark horse for Orlando since he apparently wants less media attention tho Dallas might be the one to get him
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Post by jjohns828 on Jun 30, 2024 14:55:35 GMT -5
Well Franz can play the 2 if necessary he's more of a 3 so if we're not bringing in George it would be better to get a backcourt running mate and let Franz play his natural position. George can play the 2 as well and KCP Klay is still a dark horse for Orlando since he apparently wants less media attention tho Dallas might be the one to get him I like Klay for Orlando more than KCP but that's starting to look unlikely. I think the two main things Orlando needs in the backcourt is someone that can take some of the playmaking load off of Franz and Paolo's shoulders and volume 3pt shooting, in that order. Neither really does the first but if it came down to those 2 while both shoot a high percentage from range KCP doesn't really do the volume I think we need. I like KCP as a player and in most circumstances I'd be thrilled with him I just don't think his skill set fits what Orlando needs to finally get our offense out of the bottom third of the league.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 30, 2024 14:57:02 GMT -5
George can play the 2 as well and KCP Klay is still a dark horse for Orlando since he apparently wants less media attention tho Dallas might be the one to get him I like Klay for Orlando more than KCP but that's starting to look unlikely. I think the two main things Orlando needs in the backcourt is someone that can take some of the playmaking load off of Franz and Paolo's shoulders and volume 3pt shooting, in that order. Neither really does the first but if it came down to those 2 while both shoot a high percentage from range KCP doesn't really do the volume I think we need. I like KCP as a player and in most circumstances I'd be thrilled with him I just don't think his skill set fits what Orlando needs to finally get our offense out of the bottom third of the league. Gary Trent Jr is a target I can see them going after
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 30, 2024 15:35:29 GMT -5
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