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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:24:14 GMT -5
Post by gmanquik on Jun 17, 2007 13:24:14 GMT -5
EDIT: I removed my previous post, and sent it personally. Some things need to be discussed in private.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:24:48 GMT -5
Post by Psy on Jun 17, 2007 13:24:48 GMT -5
thats not saying "i dont get american humor" thats saying "americans are inferior" tell me thats not flamebaiting. you didnt see anyone getting pissed at the people saying farrell was not funny. it wasnt untill A PERSONS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN was brought into it that people got up in arms It's not flamebaiting. He's expressing his opinion. Note, he didn't say: Americans are fat and stupid and wouldn't know funny if they got hit in the f***ing head with a bag of humour-bricks America is the septic tank for the rest of the world American humor is stupid and completely without worth and they're stupid for liking it ......he said that it's inferior, and reading his previous posts (I went through 398) it appears he's expressing his beliefs that a) British humour is better than American humor and b) He doesn't like Will Ferrell.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:27:21 GMT -5
Post by gmanquik on Jun 17, 2007 13:27:21 GMT -5
thats not saying "i dont get american humor" thats saying "americans are inferior" tell me thats not flamebaiting. you didnt see anyone getting pissed at the people saying farrell was not funny. it wasnt untill A PERSONS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN was brought into it that people got up in arms It's not flamebaiting. He's expressing his opinion. Note, he didn't say: Americans are fat and stupid and wouldn't know funny if they got hit in the f***ing head with a bag of humour-bricks America is the septic tank for the rest of the world American humor is stupid and completely without worth and they're stupid for liking it ......he said that it's inferior, and reading his previous posts (I went through 398) it appears he's expressing his beliefs that a) British humour is better than American humor and b) He doesn't like Will Ferrell. Okay, so this means I can come out and say something that's definitely racist, as long as I put it in that exact context, right? Here's a sample... a) ________people are superior to ________people. and b) I don't like __________people. Would that be okay to post on the boards? If that isn't okay, then why do the same for an entire nation? It's just my opinion, and I'm stating it the exact same way you just did. What's the difference?
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:28:43 GMT -5
Post by I'm The Cool One on Jun 17, 2007 13:28:43 GMT -5
well then we're all interpreting what was said differently. but i think you should take into account the people who were offended and consider that maybe you're interpreting it wrong.
but its not like it matters. i'm no moderator, here. so whatever you guys say is final. theres no reasoning with people who are set in their ways. so i'll just politely bow out. no use in arguing anymore.
short version. f*** it.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:29:05 GMT -5
Post by eeriebagel on Jun 17, 2007 13:29:05 GMT -5
thats not saying "i dont get american humor" thats saying "americans are inferior" tell me thats not flamebaiting. you didnt see anyone getting pissed at the people saying farrell was not funny. it wasnt untill A PERSONS COUNTRY OF ORIGIN was brought into it that people got up in arms It's not flamebaiting. He's expressing his opinion. Note, he didn't say: Americans are fat and stupid and wouldn't know funny if they got hit in the f***ing head with a bag of humour-bricks America is the septic tank for the rest of the world American humor is stupid and completely without worth and they're stupid for liking it ......he said that it's inferior, and reading his previous posts (I went through 398) it appears he's expressing his beliefs that a) British humour is better than American humor and b) He doesn't like Will Ferrell. He wrote: "Americans just laugh at anything, huh" You said: Americans are fat and stupid and wouldn't know funny if they got hit in the f***ing head with a bag of humour-bricks well, he didn't get to the fat and stupid parts, but he certainly mentioned the rest. that is exactly what was implied.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:30:40 GMT -5
Post by I'm The Cool One on Jun 17, 2007 13:30:40 GMT -5
maybe there should be some re-consideration on the part of the mods when so many people are offended. maybe?
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:31:10 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 17, 2007 13:31:10 GMT -5
You people are seriously making this too damned big a deal. Seriously.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:31:31 GMT -5
Post by gmanquik on Jun 17, 2007 13:31:31 GMT -5
I think we should all take this slowly. Let's just calm down for a little, and then come back when things have died down a bit, okay?
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:31:52 GMT -5
Post by redqueen on Jun 17, 2007 13:31:52 GMT -5
He could have said "it's not my style", anything along the lines, but the minute he brought up a manifestation of a specific culture (as humor is) and called it inferior, then he crossed the line from "I don't get it" to insult. Granted, some people should not have responded in the way they did, but to let him off the hook for the comment is wrong.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:32:53 GMT -5
Post by I'm The Cool One on Jun 17, 2007 13:32:53 GMT -5
You people are seriously making this too damned big a deal. Seriously. thats it. as i said in an earlier post. f*** it. theres so f***ing much i want to say. but f*** it. i'd like to avoid getting banned. so f*** it.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:33:00 GMT -5
Post by redqueen on Jun 17, 2007 13:33:00 GMT -5
You people are seriously making this too damned big a deal. Seriously. Maybe we just want fair to be...fair?
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:34:11 GMT -5
Post by eeriebagel on Jun 17, 2007 13:34:11 GMT -5
I think we should all take this slowly. Let's just calm down for a little, and then come back when things have died down a bit, okay? no problem. will debate another day. just hope i don't get another reason to debate this
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:37:02 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 17, 2007 13:37:02 GMT -5
You people are seriously making this too damned big a deal. Seriously. Maybe we just want fair to be...fair? Fine. How about first we go through the entirety of the forums and find all references to bad British food, Irish drinking, Mexican water and every single "Blame Canada" joke.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:37:36 GMT -5
Post by I'm The Cool One on Jun 17, 2007 13:37:36 GMT -5
go for it. i'm clean
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:40:25 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 17, 2007 13:40:25 GMT -5
Well, thanks for completely missing the point, then.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:43:37 GMT -5
Post by gmanquik on Jun 17, 2007 13:43:37 GMT -5
This has gotten a bit out of hand. I'm not going to discuss this anymore, outside of private talk. I agree with Madison--I think the point here has been completely no-sold. I'm headed back to the other threads.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:44:38 GMT -5
Post by I'm The Cool One on Jun 17, 2007 13:44:38 GMT -5
yeah i'm done arguing this (for real this time). lets agree to disagree and be done with it.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 13:52:16 GMT -5
Post by redqueen on Jun 17, 2007 13:52:16 GMT -5
Maybe we just want fair to be...fair? Fine. How about first we go through the entirety of the forums and find all references to bad British food, Irish drinking, Mexican water and every single "Blame Canada" joke. And you want to throw the accusation at someone else about missing the point? I don't mean to put you on the defensive (as I see you are), but people were offended at the comment, and all we see is that you're not going to do anything about it. All we see is that DiG closed the thread and told some people not to tell others to "shut up." I agree with that, but he should have also told the other guy not to deem an aspect of someone else's culture inferior because he doesn't like Will Farrell--HE took his comments too far, and you can't expect reasonable people to not be offended by that. It was an insult and someone on the moderating team should have done something about that. THAT's what I meant by "fair." But as the others have said, I'm done. Have it your way.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 14:04:44 GMT -5
Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 17, 2007 14:04:44 GMT -5
Fine. How about first we go through the entirety of the forums and find all references to bad British food, Irish drinking, Mexican water and every single "Blame Canada" joke. And you want to throw the accusation at someone else about missing the point? I don't mean to put you on the defensive (as I see you are), but people were offended at the comment, and all we see is that you're not going to do anything about it. All we see is that DiG closed the thread and told some people not to tell others to "shut up." I agree with that, but he should have also told the other guy not to deem an aspect of someone else's culture inferior because he doesn't like Will Farrell--HE took his comments too far, and you can't expect reasonable people to not be offended by that. It was an insult and someone on the moderating team should have done something about that. THAT's what I meant by "fair." But as the others have said, I'm done. Have it your way. No, see, "fair" means "fair to everyone." What you're asking is for preferential treatment. Hence why I pointed out all the jokes generalizing aspects of other nations, which have gone on here since the start, with nary an uproar. I realize that several of the three or four people who have called out on this in this thread are still relatively new here, so I can't blame you for not being familiar with the board's history. Put simply, this just isn't worth all of this.
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AskaMod
Jun 17, 2007 15:40:48 GMT -5
Post by Near Fantastica on Jun 17, 2007 15:40:48 GMT -5
I said American humour is inferior. That's an opinion. When I see Will Ferrell playing the yelling boss who then goes back to being calm and compare it to an episode of Spaced or The Office (the good version), then yeah I can say that I believe it's inferior. It's not fact, if you don't think that, no problem, however I do.
You blew it out of proportion and your patriotism got the better of you. Don't just look for an excuse to say, "I am proud to be American", when really you got annoyed when I said I thought American comedy is inferior, NOT America is inferior.
Besides, (and please don't make me search around) but I have seen many threads on here where Britain has been made fun of, Canada has, an Irish stereotype has been thrown up. It happens.
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