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Post by tommyvercetti on Jul 18, 2007 19:38:49 GMT -5
Well, I don't know if I would put it with those albums either..it has a weird charm to it for me though.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 19:40:40 GMT -5
I think that if they'd cut it to one disc, then it would easily be their finest album, without a shadow of a doubt.
But then a lot of people like the Let It Be album too, so hell, maybe I'm just weird...but THAT ONE SUCKED TOO. *shakes fist*
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jul 18, 2007 19:42:51 GMT -5
WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE THE WHITE ALBUM? IT'S AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF FILLER OR WORSE! GAHHHH! Well, unlike most everyone else my favorite track on the album is "Revolution 9". Along with "Yer Blues" ('I'm so suicidal, just like Dylan's Mr. Jones', that's neat), "Happiness is a Warm Gun", "Julia" and "Helter Skelter" it has it's times of greatness, and it has a variety of styles so everyone could find something for their liking.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 19:44:14 GMT -5
Which is exactly what confuses me. There's something for everyone, but it's completely eclectic, so aside from the few people I know who have tastes as eclectic as this album, why do so many people like it? *shakes fist*
Give me Hard Day's Night anyday. Or, indeed, any time at all.
ZING!
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Post by gsguy on Jul 18, 2007 19:46:16 GMT -5
WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE THE WHITE ALBUM? IT'S AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF FILLER OR WORSE! GAHHHH! I think it's one of those albums that gets better as you age. When I was your age (4 years ago ) I liked it but didn't think it was a top 3 album, now I think it's their best next to Pepper. I basically like all the songs except: Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill Wild Honey Pie Honey Pie Revolution 9 Highly recomended: Long, Long, Long. Very, very overlooked.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 19:47:37 GMT -5
I don't even think Pepper is the best one. I think Lennon was pretty lazy on that record.
How do you know how old I am? Does my birthday come up on my profile or something?
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Post by tommyvercetti on Jul 18, 2007 19:48:32 GMT -5
Which is exactly what confuses me. There's something for everyone, but it's completely eclectic, so aside from the few people I know who have tastes as eclectic as this album, why do so many people like it? *shakes fist* Give me Hard Day's Night anyday. Or, indeed, any time at all. ZING! Look at it this way...to be a a fan of the entire Beatles career you have to have a bit of eclectic taste; they went through a lot of phases in seven years and millions of people followed them.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jul 18, 2007 19:49:08 GMT -5
As a whole, yeah, it's a mess of an album. But some people are attracted to pollution. Nothing obvious makes it 'great', depends on who you are and how you look at it. For no reason, will say my favorite is Rubber Soul.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 19:49:28 GMT -5
You have a point, but I think White Album takes that to much further an extreme than rock 'n' roll usually goes. There's stuff on there that sounds like nothing else they did, and indeed nothing else most other people did, especially at that time.
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Post by gsguy on Jul 18, 2007 19:50:23 GMT -5
I don't even think Pepper is the best one. I think Lennon was pretty lazy on that record. How do you know how old I am? Does my birthday come up on my profile or something? Yes... and as I say to all who don't put Pepper #1, Explain in more detail.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Jul 18, 2007 19:51:57 GMT -5
You have a point, but I think White Album takes that to much further an extreme than rock 'n' roll usually goes. There's stuff on there that sounds like nothing else they did, and indeed nothing else most other people did, especially at that time. There is also the fact The Beatles have a very devout fanbase, and will give the band more leeway.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Jul 18, 2007 19:55:21 GMT -5
WHY DOES EVERYONE LIKE THE WHITE ALBUM? IT'S AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF FILLER OR WORSE! GAHHHH! I think it's one of those albums that gets better as you age. When I was your age (4 years ago ) I liked it but didn't think it was a top 3 album, now I think it's their best next to Pepper. I basically like all the songs except: Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill Wild Honey Pie Honey Pie Revolution 9 Highly recomended: Long, Long, Long. Very, very overlooked. I've listened to The Beatles for ten years and The White album, although still loved, has fallen a bit; probably taking a place behind Revolver, Abby Road, Sgt Peppers, A Hard Days Night.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 20:01:01 GMT -5
I don't even think Pepper is the best one. I think Lennon was pretty lazy on that record. How do you know how old I am? Does my birthday come up on my profile or something? Yes... and as I say to all who don't put Pepper #1, Explain in more detail. I am normally very much a Lennon fan, he is an idol of mine, not least for calling time on the biggest, best band in history because of a girl - it takes real balls, and real love, to do something like that, and even aside from his music I adore him and respect him for it. But his work on Sgt. Pepper was, in my opinion, mediocre by his high standards. When you're a genius writer of his level, you can make the same old crap seem masterful and on this record I think he did that. 'Good Morning, Good Morning,' to me, is just boring. 'Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite' required little to no inspiration as the lyrics were almost entirely lifted directly from an antique posted. I've never much cared for 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds,' though I can see the attraction. Paul's work, on the other hand, is phenomenal throughout in my book. 'She's Leaving Home' is so twee, but so beautiful and so heartbreaking. The distant vocals and piano on 'Lovely Rita' can make me dance, and I don't dance. Ever. The less said about 'Within You And Without You' the better, but their collaborations as both a band and as Lennon/McCartney produce the best material. 'Getting Better' is one of my all-time favourite Beatles tracks, because of the lyrics - which I'm relatively sure were unlike anything else at that time - are so honest and brutal, yet shoved into this beautiful song, and ever last sharp stab of guitar from George Harrison is absolutely precise. And then there's 'A Day In The Life.' I'd say that Lennon's vocal, so disenchanted, so bored, so barely attentive, on its own would more than make up for his lacklustre work on this album were it not for Paul's stupendous material. I'd mark this album as the point where Lennon stopped caring and Paul became the dominant Beatle. There's even a quote from John where he says he was looking for an out from filming How I Won The War in 1966 onwards, and this album seems to support that idea. ...detailed enough for you?
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Post by Joie De Vivre on Jul 18, 2007 20:11:37 GMT -5
Around the time of Sgt. Peppers, John Lennon admitted that he was getting lazy with his song writing and wasn't writing as much. So Paul was more in control of the arrangements at the time.
As a Beatles fan, my favorite album from them is The White Album for it's moody setlist and for it's emphasis on absurdity. Though It should've been a single album.
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Post by gsguy on Jul 18, 2007 20:13:30 GMT -5
Yes... and as I say to all who don't put Pepper #1, Explain in more detail. I am normally very much a Lennon fan, he is an idol of mine, not least for calling time on the biggest, best band in history because of a girl - it takes real balls, and real love, to do something like that, and even aside from his music I adore him and respect him for it. But his work on Sgt. Pepper was, in my opinion, mediocre by his high standards. When you're a genius writer of his level, you can make the same old crap seem masterful and on this record I think he did that. 'Good Morning, Good Morning,' to me, is just boring. 'Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite' required little to no inspiration as the lyrics were almost entirely lifted directly from an antique posted. I've never much cared for 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds,' though I can see the attraction. Paul's work, on the other hand, is phenomenal throughout in my book. 'She's Leaving Home' is so twee, but so beautiful and so heartbreaking. The distant vocals and piano on 'Lovely Rita' can make me dance, and I don't dance. Ever. The less said about 'Within You And Without You' the better, but their collaborations as both a band and as Lennon/McCartney produce the best material. 'Getting Better' is one of my all-time favourite Beatles tracks, because of the lyrics - which I'm relatively sure were unlike anything else at that time - are so honest and brutal, yet shoved into this beautiful song, and ever last sharp stab of guitar from George Harrison is absolutely precise. And then there's 'A Day In The Life.' I'd say that Lennon's vocal, so disenchanted, so bored, so barely attentive, on its own would more than make up for his lacklustre work on this album were it not for Paul's stupendous material. I'd mark this album as the point where Lennon stopped caring and Paul became the dominant Beatle. There's even a quote from John where he says he was looking for an out from filming How I Won The War in 1966 onwards, and this album seems to support that idea. ...detailed enough for you? I respect your opinion... I highly disagree with you on Day in the Life though. It's supposed to be a disinterested vocal (I mean he's basically talking about the real life death of his friend Tara Browne on the first verse.) It's supposed to be a depressing song.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 20:14:48 GMT -5
You misunderstand me. 'A Day In the Life' is the masterpiece. I LOVE how bored that vocal is. What I was saying was that vocal alone is great, and would make up for his other lesser songs on the album...if he wasn't John Lennon.
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Post by gsguy on Jul 18, 2007 20:18:47 GMT -5
You misunderstand me. 'A Day In the Life' is the masterpiece. I LOVE how bored that vocal is. What I was saying was that vocal alone is great, and would make up for his other lesser songs on the album...if he wasn't John Lennon. Sigh... Once again, I misunderstand someone's post
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 18, 2007 20:19:30 GMT -5
I can see how you got there because of my phrasing.
However, I can also still point and laugh at you for getting there.
Sweet Clyde! Laugh derisively at him!
HA HA!
...A-HA HA!
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