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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 27, 2007 0:33:31 GMT -5
The Superman III we have is awesome. Yeah, its not as good as 1 and 2, but at least they tried something different instead of giving us luthor AGAIN. We just got a terrible immitation of Lex Luthor. Every Superman movie should have Lex Luthor in it, maybe not as the main villain, but he should be in it. I liked the Clark EvilSupes fight and the Smallville stuff, from Superman III, though.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 27, 2007 1:02:38 GMT -5
Like turning Bruce Wayne into a god and making a paradoxical character who shouldn't exist the new Batman? Sorry, couldn't resist *gets headache from all this horse hockey* I read somewhere that in one of the new Batman movies, they wanted to make Harley Quinn into the Joker's DAUGHTER instead of his girlfriend. Ugh, vomit. I never understand why writers decide to take an established character and say "guess what, now they don't have THIS relationship to each other, it's like THIS" and thereby pissing off a legion of fans you're trying to get to come to the movie. In fairness Harley Quinn shouldn't be in ANY Batman movie without drastic changes to her character. The 'Joker's daughter' isn't one of those though.
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Post by rra on Nov 27, 2007 8:02:04 GMT -5
You know whats funny? *SPOILER - Scroll Down!*
Unless things have changed, Singer's THE MAN OF STEEL will have both Brainiac and Supergirl.
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Nov 27, 2007 12:56:54 GMT -5
Oh, the Salkinds. The Hunguarian or Bulgarian or whatever Eastern European producing clan they were, they produced alot of cheesy and super-expensive stuff. They produced the first 3 SUPERMAN movies, and here is a script treatment apparently of how they wanted SUPERMAN III originally, and goddamn, its.....well, they had no clue at all about Supes. To quote a friend of mine who read it: "Its like the worst Silver Age Supes comic NEVER penned!" www.supermancinema.co.uk/superman3/general/script/s3_original_idea.pdfCheck out the part where Superman and Supergirl "do it".....except they're cousins, right? EEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!Well, maybe they are into inbreadness on krypton ;D
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Nov 27, 2007 13:07:15 GMT -5
You know whats funny? *SPOILER - Scroll Down!* Unless things have changed, Singer's THE MAN OF STEEL will have both Brainiac and Supergirl. I hope there aren't any castles and jousting. ;D
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Post by Mr Ismaeal Naji on Nov 27, 2007 16:00:22 GMT -5
superman sucks
and here are the Following People/Machines that can defeat him with ease
Kenshiro/Toki/Ken-OH Astro Boy Captain America and Giant Robo
.........that is all!
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 27, 2007 16:36:44 GMT -5
superman sucks and here are the Following People/Machines that can defeat him with ease Kenshiro/Toki/Ken-OH Astro Boy Captain America and Giant Robo .........that is all! Captain America is just a really strong regular guy with a shield, how could that defeat Superman?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 27, 2007 17:46:53 GMT -5
Like turning Bruce Wayne into a god and making a paradoxical character who shouldn't exist the new Batman? Sorry, couldn't resist *gets headache from all this horse hockey* I read somewhere that in one of the new Batman movies, they wanted to make Harley Quinn into the Joker's DAUGHTER instead of his girlfriend. Ugh, vomit. I never understand why writers decide to take an established character and say "guess what, now they don't have THIS relationship to each other, it's like THIS" and thereby pissing off a legion of fans you're trying to get to come to the movie. ego, probably. a lot of writers (mostly bad ones) love proving that their fundementally flawed ideas are somehow better than what worked in the past, even though they usually aren't. my take is, if you want to write a movie about a super-strong stone cold killer who doesn't fly, doesn't wear a cape and fights a giant spider in the third act, by all means do so. just don't call it Superman, because none of that has anything to do with Superman.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 27, 2007 17:48:58 GMT -5
Was the Kevin Smith Superman script that bad I've never read it.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 27, 2007 17:52:02 GMT -5
/\ if you're to believe Kevin Smith, but it really wasn't his fault, the producer made all kinds of outlandish demands of him and really knew jack squat about the character.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 27, 2007 17:53:59 GMT -5
/\ if you're to believe Kevin Smith, but it really wasn't his fault, the producer made all kinds of outlandish demands of him and really knew jack squat about the character. Who was the producer? It couldn't have been the Salkinds, I don't think they were in business in the late 90s/early 00s
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Nov 27, 2007 17:57:09 GMT -5
*gets headache from all this horse hockey* I read somewhere that in one of the new Batman movies, they wanted to make Harley Quinn into the Joker's DAUGHTER instead of his girlfriend. Ugh, vomit. I never understand why writers decide to take an established character and say "guess what, now they don't have THIS relationship to each other, it's like THIS" and thereby pissing off a legion of fans you're trying to get to come to the movie. ego, probably. a lot of writers (mostly bad ones) love proving that their fundementally flawed ideas are somehow better than what worked in the past, even though they usually aren't. my take is, if you want to write a movie about a super-strong stone cold killer who doesn't fly, doesn't wear a cape and fights a giant spider in the third act, by all means do so. just don't call it Superman, because none of that has anything to do with Superman. Or, someone had an idea for a movie, but he or she wasn’t talented enough to come up with characters and a name for it. So, they find a book or TV show that has a similar story and just use it to fill out their story.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 27, 2007 17:57:13 GMT -5
I don't think Smith ever calls him by name, but it was some guy who used to be a hair-dresser and he produced Will Smith's Wild Wild West film, complete with giant f***ing spider
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 27, 2007 17:58:00 GMT -5
ego, probably. a lot of writers (mostly bad ones) love proving that their fundementally flawed ideas are somehow better than what worked in the past, even though they usually aren't. my take is, if you want to write a movie about a super-strong stone cold killer who doesn't fly, doesn't wear a cape and fights a giant spider in the third act, by all means do so. just don't call it Superman, because none of that has anything to do with Superman. Or, someone had an idea for a movie, but he or she wasn’t talented enough to come up with characters and a name for it. So, they find a book or TV show that has a similar story and just use it to fill out their story. true. either way, it's wrong
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Nov 27, 2007 18:00:09 GMT -5
/\ if you're to believe Kevin Smith, but it really wasn't his fault, the producer made all kinds of outlandish demands of him and really knew jack squat about the character. Who was the producer? It couldn't have been the Salkinds, I don't think they were in business in the late 90s/early 00s Jon Peters, the guy who produced the 1989 "Batman." A little trivia: he was the guy who came up with the scene where Alfred lets Vicki Vale into the Batcave. He also envisioned "Batman" as "Death Wish in a batsuit."
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Nov 27, 2007 18:01:37 GMT -5
Or, someone had an idea for a movie, but he or she wasn’t talented enough to come up with characters and a name for it. So, they find a book or TV show that has a similar story and just use it to fill out their story. true. either way, it's wrong It is wrong; very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WRONG!!!!
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