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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 27, 2007 18:05:13 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Dec 27, 2007 19:02:23 GMT -5
Arent leno and conan and letterman professional comedians? Couldnt they just write their own material? After all, comedians are on the road several times a year.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 27, 2007 19:04:20 GMT -5
Arent leno and conan and letterman professional comedians? Couldnt they just write their own material? After all, comedians are on the road several times a year. They could, but they're not allowed to do a monologue and perform their own material, because it's usually reserved for the striking writers. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 27, 2007 19:36:15 GMT -5
They could still find ways around that. Jay did whole skits on just going out on the street and asking questions. I "suppose" the questions fall under the writers' writing, but there are loopholes to all of this.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Dec 27, 2007 19:36:59 GMT -5
Maybe he can get the questions straight out of books, that way they aren't having anyone write them for him.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Dec 27, 2007 20:21:14 GMT -5
No offense, this sounds like bull (not the "I don't believe it" bull, but the "it's totally unfair" bull).
I mean, the whole point of a strike is to force employers to listen by either making them find a way to do the work themselves or hire scrubs who are willing to cross the picket line. Now it seems like they've tied the hands of the shows, which doesn't seem fair to me. I mean, if Leno, Conan et al. are willing to write their own stuff, then why can't they air it? If someone could explain how this is even remotely fair to me I'd appreciate it.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 27, 2007 20:27:44 GMT -5
No offense, this sounds like bull (not the "I don't believe it" bull, but the "it's totally unfair" bull). I mean, the whole point of a strike is to force employers to listen by either making them find a way to do the work themselves or hire scrubs who are willing to cross the picket line. Now it seems like they've tied the hands of the shows, which doesn't seem fair to me. I mean, if Leno, Conan et al. are willing to write their own stuff, then why can't they air it? If someone could explain how this is even remotely fair to me I'd appreciate it. It's not, but they're basically returning for the rest of their staff. Apparently, movies haven't suffered by the lack of promotion these shows give them though oddly enough. Which is their main purpose. |
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Dec 27, 2007 20:48:42 GMT -5
So. Did I ever tell any of you guys how f***ing stupid this strike is?
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Post by thepaywindah on Dec 27, 2007 21:49:42 GMT -5
It all sucks, no doubt. However, I support the striking writers 100%. The entire reason for the strike essentially breaks down to the people in charge not being willing to give the writers the same compensation they'd been getting for years upon years, just because their shows are more often than not airing on mediums that aren't yet covered by residual contracts. And there's no way that the people at the top aren't profiting from those mediums. For the DVDs, money is most definitely exchanging hands. For the free mediums (internet viewing), advertising is involved at every turn. Those writers flat out deserve compensation and I'm quite disappointed to see that they are more often than not looking like the bad guys here. If the production companies and the people that pay out for the contracts in general would simply agree to give fair compensation, this whole thing could be over with.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 27, 2007 23:11:43 GMT -5
I'm interesting in seeing the format that the shows take. Carson came back to do the Tonight Show in 88 and I imagine these shows will be similar in format
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Dec 28, 2007 3:35:55 GMT -5
Arent leno and conan and letterman professional comedians? Couldnt they just write their own material? After all, comedians are on the road several times a year. They could, but they're not allowed to do a monologue and perform their own material, because it's usually reserved for the striking writers. Also, as mentioned in the article, all three of those men are also members of the WGA, and they'd be barred from writing material that their writers would typically produce. |
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Dec 28, 2007 6:49:02 GMT -5
Eh? This is preposterous. Leno is a stand-up comedian so he's more than capable of writing his own monologues. O'Brien is a highly-regarded comedy writer, so again, he's more than capable of writing his own monologues. I'm not positive about Letterman's writing history, but I do know that he's a hell of a smart guy, so I imagine he's written his own material before. I can understand them choosing not to do certain bits out of respect for their writers, but saying these guys "can't" do certain things is ridiculous.
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Post by default on Dec 28, 2007 7:18:48 GMT -5
Eh... if I were in charge of one of these shows, I'd pull an SNL and just give the musical guest a second performance... and maybe an extra guest.
Plus, I don't think the writer's can get in the way of Conan pulling his Chuck Norris lever can they?
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Dec 28, 2007 7:41:46 GMT -5
It all sucks, no doubt. However, I support the striking writers 100%. The entire reason for the strike essentially breaks down to the people in charge not being willing to give the writers the same compensation they'd been getting for years upon years, just because their shows are more often than not airing on mediums that aren't yet covered by residual contracts. And there's no way that the people at the top aren't profiting from those mediums. For the DVDs, money is most definitely exchanging hands. For the free mediums (internet viewing), advertising is involved at every turn. Those writers flat out deserve compensation and I'm quite disappointed to see that they are more often than not looking like the bad guys here. If the production companies and the people that pay out for the contracts in general would simply agree to give fair compensation, this whole thing could be over with. Let's face facts, the TV networks more then likely behind that. Considering all of the major news networks are all owned by companies which also own other television stations. They can make the writer's look terrible by switching a few key words around in news reports about the strike. So unfortunately because of the networks having a clear bias, I don't think people have seen what the strike really is about and it's strugling because of it. It's not always about who's right, but who's voice is loudest... |
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 28, 2007 7:51:02 GMT -5
Eh... if I were in charge of one of these shows, I'd pull an SNL and just give the musical guest a second performance... and maybe an extra guest. Plus, I don't think the writer's can get in the way of Conan pulling his Chuck Norris lever can they? Conan could be funny making soup, so this could be even more entertaining without writers. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 28, 2007 9:29:25 GMT -5
For Conan, this could be fun. For Leno, this will be the final push into his retirement.
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