Lord Rahl
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jan 13, 2007 23:38:59 GMT -5
This is something I've always wondered. I know JR's the play by play and Kings the color commentator. My question is, whats the differance?
And its not just wrestling, I know football has the same thing, and I still cant figure it out.
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cosmonaut
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Post by cosmonaut on Jan 13, 2007 23:40:48 GMT -5
The play-by-play guy objectively describes the moves (in football, the plays) and the colour commentator speaks of each play/move's relevance to the match, what could have been done better/why it was good, etc.
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Lord Rahl
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Post by Lord Rahl on Jan 13, 2007 23:41:44 GMT -5
The play-by-play guy objectively describes the moves (in football, the plays) and the colour commentator speaks of each play/move's relevance to the match, what could have been done better/why it was good, etc. AAhhhh, ok. Makes sense. Thanks |
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Corporate H
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 13, 2007 23:41:56 GMT -5
The play-by-play guy objectively describes the moves (in football, the plays) and the colour commentator speaks of each play/move's relevance to the match, what could have been done better/why it was good, etc. I never knew that, but it's all so clear and obvious to me now. |
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cosmonaut
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Post by cosmonaut on Jan 13, 2007 23:43:29 GMT -5
It's also why they frequently have ex-players or coaches (or, in this case, wrestlers) as the colour commentator, because they're able to use their experience to describe the significance of various things that happen.
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odor31
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Post by odor31 on Jan 13, 2007 23:59:59 GMT -5
As being a former wrestler...
Lawler...check
JBL...check
Tazz...check
Don West...*Price is Right losing music*
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 14, 2007 0:05:54 GMT -5
Don West is superior to Lawler. I'd give him the slight edge to Tazz. JBL is a bit higher.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 14, 2007 0:06:35 GMT -5
It's also why they frequently have ex-players or coaches (or, in this case, wrestlers) as the colour commentator, because they're able to use their experience to describe the significance of various things that happen. Unfortunately, in football, the players who do color usually S-U-C-K.In baseball, though, there's no better team than the Mets': Gary Cohen on play-by-play, Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling on color. As for wrestling, I'd love it if we could get more color commentators like Ventura and Heenan again. I guess JBL is the closest we've got, or CM Punk when he'd call shows for various companies back in the day. |
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Post by Gopher Mod on Jan 14, 2007 0:56:59 GMT -5
As being a former wrestler... Lawler...check JBL...check Tazz...check Don West...*Price is Right losing music* Why does it matter than Don West isn't a former wrestler? It's hilarious just listening to him. Almost as hilarious as J.R. and King and their botchfest. |
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Post by Pierre the Renaissance Man on Jan 14, 2007 1:34:02 GMT -5
Its simple. The play by play talks about bbq sauce n chocolate ladders, while the color guy is a pervert.
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Jan 14, 2007 1:37:01 GMT -5
the best evidence of PBP and Color is Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 14, 2007 3:15:06 GMT -5
Even though I am a lifelong Cubs fan, I respect the White Sox old announce team of Hawk Harrelson and Ken Paciorek. Not because they were good. Oh, no...because they explained during a rain delay in detail how to cork a bat.
Color commentators are hit-or-miss. Cris Collinsworth is amazing. Doug Collins in the NBA. Al Leiter for FOX's MLB playoff coverage. And then there are the gawdawful pieces of crap like Brian Balldinger and Isiah Thomas. Isiah sounded moderately retarded, and Balldinger is...there's a reason he's on the G-team for FOX.
Wrestling is the same. I've never liked Lawler, but at least he has a personality. Then there are the great ones, like Jim Cornette, Bobby Heenan, Jesse Ventura. And there will never be an announce team as great as Heenan/Monsoon. They are the Madden/Summerall or Michaels/Gifford [in their primes] of pro wrestling. Never to be duplicated.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 14, 2007 3:17:33 GMT -5
As being a former wrestler... Lawler...check JBL...check Tazz...check Don West...*Price is Right losing music* Why does it matter than Don West isn't a former wrestler? It's hilarious just listening to him. Almost as hilarious as J.R. and King and their botchfest. Plus, West has experience hyping the living hell out of things. And it goes without saying that him screaming like a lunatic after AJ hits a " 'PA-LAY' OUTTA NOWHERE!!!!!!!!111" or Rhyno hitting the "GORE! GORE! GORRRRRRRRRRRRRE!" is definetely quote and laugh worthy. Especially since his volume and intensity can instantly skyrocket from 1 to 11. |
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Post by Nickie James on Jan 14, 2007 3:20:00 GMT -5
and the colour commentator speaks of each play/move's relevance to the match, what could have been done better/why it was good, etc. In that case, Lawler ain't really doing his job. :/ |
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Post by 4real on Jan 14, 2007 3:25:50 GMT -5
It's also why they frequently have ex-players or coaches (or, in this case, wrestlers) as the colour commentator, because they're able to use their experience to describe the significance of various things that happen. Unfortunately, in football, the players who do color usually S-U-C-K.Same with football in the U.K. They just sound old and dreary like they've not nothing better to do with their time. And they frequently get everything wrong. Just like Jerry Lawler. |
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Post by duxgutz on Jan 14, 2007 4:57:47 GMT -5
Being an Aussie I know next to nothing about the NFL! (Australian Rules Football's my game! ;D) But what I DO know is that John Madden is the number 1 play by play commentator... & WCW's Mark Madden was the worst color commentator ever!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2007 5:09:56 GMT -5
Play by play...calls the action going on.
Color...adds color to the situation by discussing relevance of what you're seeing and how it relates to things going on...
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Jan 14, 2007 5:26:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately, in football, the players who do color usually S-U-C-K.Same with football in the U.K. They just sound old and dreary like they've not nothing better to do with their time. And they frequently get everything wrong. Just like Jerry Lawler. David Pleat! He is the worst football color guy ever. |
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Post by 4real on Jan 14, 2007 5:35:58 GMT -5
Same with football in the U.K. They just sound old and dreary like they've not nothing better to do with their time. And they frequently get everything wrong. Just like Jerry Lawler. David Pleat! He is the worst football color guy ever. Well he is a Spurs man, but that's another story for another time. |
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 14, 2007 6:20:18 GMT -5
^ What d'you think of that ex-Everton player Andy Gray on football colour commentary? I don't think he's that bad.
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